US Politics Mega-thread - Page 4186

On July 08 2016 02:58 ticklishmusic wrote:
poor comey has to pee and is just repeating himself at this point

On July 08 2016 02:57 Mohdoo wrote:


Inept or Trump? Inept. We are not in a position, today, to select any other candidate. Unless you are arguing Clinton is worse than Trump, there's no argument to be made.

On July 08 2016 02:59 GreenHorizons wrote:


If all three are Inept to some degree, can we just pick the one who isn't a lying asshole?

On July 08 2016 02:59 GreenHorizons wrote:


If all three are Inept to some degree, can we just pick the one who isn't a lying asshole?

On July 08 2016 03:00 amazingxkcd wrote:


there's always Johnson or Bernie!!

On July 08 2016 02:56 amazingxkcd wrote:


thats a great talking point to tell people: "Comey has been confirming that Clinton is inept through and through. Do you want an inept person for president?"

On July 08 2016 03:02 Mohdoo wrote:


No, we can't. There are no viable candidates running for office which fulfill your requirements. Stop pretending you have more of a choice than you do. Next year, either Trump or Clinton will be in the white house. Entertaining other silly hypothetical is a giant waste of energy.



No, there's not. The general public, not the politically enthusiastic like ourselves, will overwhelmingly choose red vs blue. Bernie isn't running and Johnson has no chance. I don't think you actually believe either Bernie or Johnson have even the slightest chance of being president.

On July 08 2016 02:59 Plansix wrote:

So you can prove that when she said those statements she intended to deceive? Not that she didn’t remember or truly believed that they had complied with the requests for all emails? Or that she truly believed there were classified emails on the server?

On July 08 2016 03:03 LegalLord wrote:

Unfortunately it really doesn't. It's just an unfortunate statement on the lack of quality candidates and it makes it puzzling how you try to defend her as if there is more to her than "not Trump." With any reasonable opponent she would get slaughtered by this. Someone like Mitt "47 percent" Romney could potentially win with all the ammo this will offer.

Hell, I'd consider voting for Trump if the Republican Party itself were not just beyond terrible. Even if he is bad overall he makes a lot of good points.

On July 08 2016 03:03 Gorsameth wrote:

When I believe the other options to be more inept? Yes.

On July 08 2016 02:51 CannonsNCarriers wrote:
And Comey confirmed today that Hillary didn't lie to the FBI. She even contrasted HRC's truthfulness with Patreus's outrageous lying. The "HRC lied" talking point is taking a trashing today. Good luck keeping it going boys.

Since last spring, Clinton has responded to concerns about her emails by assuring voters that "everything [she] did was permitted."

"Her usage was widely known to the over 100 State Department and U.S. government colleagues she emailed, consistent with the practice of prior Secretaries of State and permitted at the time," says a statement on her campaign website.

In April, she told MSNBC's Chuck Todd she was willing to address any lingering uncertainties regarding her record-keeping.

"Back in August, we made clear that I'm happy to answer any questions that anybody might have, and I stand by that," she said at the time.

However, the inspector general noted in its report that Clinton and her top aides refused to meet with the State Department watchdog to answer questions.

"My predecessors did the same thing, and many other people in the government," Clinton said during a Democratic primary debate in March.

In July of last year, Clinton told CNN her private email use was not problematic because "there was no law, there was no regulation" prohibiting her from using a personal account. She has repeatedly argued that her record-keeping practices were "above board."

Clinton said in a press conference in March of last year, during which she addressed the email controversy for the first time, that she "provided all my emails that could possibly be work-related" to the State Department.

But the inspector general highlighted gaps in Clinton's emails that suggested some official communications did not make it into the batch of 55,000 pages of records Clinton gave the agency.

I did not email any classified material to anyone on my email. There is no classified material. So I’m certainly well-aware of the classification requirements and did not send classified material.

I never received or sent any material that was marked classified at the time.

On July 08 2016 03:05 GGTeMpLaR wrote:


I'm only replying to Cannon's continued insistence that she did not lie here.

Even you can admit she lied.

Three University of Texas professors have filed a federal lawsuit to halt a state law that would allow holders of concealed handgun licenses to bring pistols into classrooms, saying the measure would have a devastating effect on academic discourse.

The lawsuit, filed in U.S. district court in Austin on Wednesday, comes just weeks before the law takes effect on Aug. 1. It allows license holders 21 and older to bring handguns into classrooms and buildings throughout the University of Texas system, one of the nation’s largest, with an enrollment of more than 214,000 students.

“Compelling professors at a public university to allow, without any limitation or restriction, students to carry concealed guns in their classrooms chills their First Amendment rights to academic freedom,” according to the lawsuit, whose defendants include the state’s attorney general, the school’s president and university’s board of regents.

The professors argue that they discus controversial and emotionally laden subjects such as reproductive rights and it would be inevitable for them to pull back at important junctures because of a cloud of gun violence hanging over the classroom.

University officials said they were reviewing the lawsuit and typically do not comment on pending litigation. Earlier this year, university President Greg Fenves reluctantly approved plans for holders of concealed handguns to bring pistols into classrooms, saying he had been forced to by the Republican-backed law.

The office of Attorney General Ken Paxton, a Republican, was not immediately available for comment but has said the law protects the rights of gun owners.

Governor Greg Abbott, a Republican, has said the law could prevent mass shootings because someone with a licensed concealed weapon could confront a gunman.

The so-called “campus carry” law allows private colleges to opt out and most of the state’s best-known private universities have done so, saying the law runs counter to protecting student safety.

Eight states now have provisions allowing the carrying of concealed weapons on public post-secondary campuses, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures, which tracks state laws.

On July 08 2016 03:17 amazingxkcd wrote:
so let me get this straight, clinton's lawyers did not have clearances to view classified emails as a result of them prepping defense case for her?

On July 08 2016 03:08 Plansix wrote:

No, because lying requires an intent to deceive. I am not convinced she intended to deceive anyone. This entire case resolves around them digging up 4 year old emails from her previous job. Forgetting about the existence of 3 out of 60,000 emails from 4 years ago is not some crazy concept. Nor them believing that they turned everything over when some stuff was missing. Or if its like my email box, she simply missed those three emails.

Where is the classified marking on the email? Does anyone know?