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amazingxkcd
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and he confirms it WEW LAD | ||
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JumboJohnson
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
On July 08 2016 03:21 JumboJohnson wrote: As someone from Utah, Chaffetz is an embarrassment. That embarrassment just exposed even more embarrassment from Clinton's incompetent handling of classified information. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
On July 08 2016 03:22 GGTeMpLaR wrote: That embarrassment just exposed even more embarrassment from Clinton's incompetent handling of classified information. Based on what he just told us, there is no way for you to come to this conclusion without filling in gaps yourself. Sounded to me like at least SOME of her lawyers had Clearance. Who knows what exactly she told her lawyers to do, who she told to do it, and who ultimately did it. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States22742 Posts
And the defense boils down to that she was too stupid to realize it was wrong. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 08 2016 03:19 CannonsNCarriers wrote: The "C" marking was in the body of the magic 2 (or is it 3?) emails. You lay out exactly why it isn't a lie and why Comey doesn't think Hillary lied. Missing 2-3 "C" markers in X0,000 emails isn't a lie. Danglars did an admirable job piecing together quotes over months of investigation, but it will always come down to the magic 2-3 emails to make your case. That is was only 2-3 "C" emails is actually surprising to me. I had assumed she had been spamming mad classified info. Looks like it was a tiny, unintentional amount. http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/07/07/here-are-fbi-director-james-comeys-most-scathing-remarks-about-hillary-clintons-actions-in-email-scandal/ Also, according to State Department, Some classified markings in Clinton emails were 'human error'. You all can try to spin against Comey and the State department, but you will lose. http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2016/07/hillary-clinton-classified-emails-error-225194 So wait, so the documents in question are her own call sheets? And they are only classified up until they are sent to her? My god, this has got to be the dumbest shit. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
1. No criminal intent 2. The lawyers didn't actually read the emails. They sorted them based on headers and keyword searches. It's like saying Googling something counts as reading it. Yes she provided access to classified information to her lawyers but she does have a right to legal counsel. Beyond that, there's fucking crumbs at best. 3 email, 6 emails, whatever out of tens of thousands were classified. | ||
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CannonsNCarriers
United States638 Posts
If you didn't hate Hillary, then you would see that as an honest mistake. And if you insist on holding Hillary to the standard of not just honest effort in trying to say the truth to her best recollection (remember we talking about 4 year old server configurations and emails), but to absolute truth in all statement irrespective of error, then you must hold the Republicans to the same standard. | ||
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ticklishmusic
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another fishing expedition | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
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On July 08 2016 03:29 ticklishmusic wrote: You guys are getting all excited for nothing about the lawyers. There are two key pieces: 1. No criminal intent 2. The lawyers didn't actually read the emails. They sorted them based on headers and keyword searches. It's like saying Googling something counts as reading it. Yes she provided access to classified information to her lawyers but she does have a right to legal counsel. Beyond that, there's fucking crumbs at best. 3 email, 6 emails, whatever out of tens of thousands were classified. They didn't read them they just searched for key words, headers.... | ||
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GreenHorizons
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GGTeMpLaR
United States7226 Posts
On July 08 2016 03:30 CannonsNCarriers wrote: Could there please be an acknowledgment of the impossible standard HRC is being held to here? Maybe she spun too hard is saying her server set up was super above board (the IT guys all signed off on it at the time, no one complained). But compare that to even one sentence from Trump, or a few sentences from Gowdy or Chaffetz. Trump can't finish a sentence without a blatant falsehood that he should have known better. The best "Hillary lied' argument left is that there were 2-3 emails that had "C" in the boddy that she missed when she said "I didn't sent marked classified emails". Note that these may have been misclassified as indicated by the State department. If you didn't hate Hillary, then you would see that as an honest mistake. And if you insist on holding Hillary to the standard of not just honest effort in trying to say the truth to her best recollection (remember we talking about 4 year old server configurations and emails), but to absolute truth in all statement irrespective of error, then you must hold the Republicans to the same standard. This post is so ironic considering the standard the left holds Trump to. | ||
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amazingxkcd
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On July 08 2016 03:32 GreenHorizons wrote: Oh it got a little tense when the Clinton Foundation came up. Sounded like he thought that was a bigger deal. Maybe some of those rumors are accurate. imo the CF is the true beast, if Comey is unwillingly to comment about any current investigations on it | ||
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biology]major
United States2253 Posts
On July 08 2016 03:32 GGTeMpLaR wrote: This post is so ironic considering the standard the left holds Trump to. Irrelevant shit post but this thread is proof for the level of mental gymnastics people have to do to maintain their perspectives and avoid cognitive dissonance. It's amazing, I've learned argument with the purpose of changing someone's mind is utterly fruitless | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21392 Posts
On July 08 2016 03:32 GreenHorizons wrote: Oh it got a little tense when the Clinton Foundation came up. Sounded like he thought that was a bigger deal. Maybe some of those rumors are accurate. Irrelevant at this point since that is not what the investigation is about. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States22742 Posts
On July 08 2016 03:33 amazingxkcd wrote: imo the CF is the true beast, if Comey is unwillingly to comment about any current investigations on it I mean the way he said it means there certainly are investigations into going on. I know Fox mentioned it a long time ago, but was that ever confirmed? I seem to remember people lumping that into the conspiracy file? | ||
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zeo
Serbia6271 Posts
On July 08 2016 03:32 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: They didn't read them they just searched for key words, headers.... And yet their search methods were so bad that even the tiny amounts of emails the FBI recovered from the wiped batch of emails were classified? | ||
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amazingxkcd
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On July 08 2016 03:36 GreenHorizons wrote: I mean the way he said it means there certainly are investigations into going on. I know Fox mentioned it a long time ago, but was that ever confirmed? I seem to remember people lumping that into the conspiracy file? "internet geniuses are at work" is what i'll say | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On July 08 2016 03:32 GGTeMpLaR wrote: This post is so ironic considering the standard the left holds Trump to. If he could stop following white supremacists on twitter and retweeting their shit over and over, it would be a good start. Well he did stop following two of them after a reporter wrote a story about it. But I get it, it’s a really common problem that no one really has. | ||
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