US Politics Mega-thread - Page 3748

On May 06 2016 03:30 ragz_gt wrote:
It also devoid of any context or nuance, which is how we end up in this place in the first place.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/9/5/1127885/-Jon-Stewart-warns-Dems-Americans-don-t-do-nuance

On May 06 2016 03:31 GreenHorizons wrote:


What context or nuance is it missing on Bosnia?

On May 06 2016 03:51 ragz_gt wrote:


The nuance is that highlight reel is a worthless cheap distortion of reality often resorted by people who has no legitimate argument. that If you make a highlight reel of Jordan's missed shots he'd look like unfit to be on a NCAA team.

The nuance is that any politicians have issues like that, and you can make a similar highlight reel out of anybody, and Hillary has pretty good accuracy comparatively (so does Sanders) if you actually look into her claims and that Hillary's "trustworthiness" is mostly a meme that's perpetuated by highlight reel like this.

I don't really like Clinton, and in a vacuum I prob prefer Sanders to her (too bad our politics don't work in a vacuum, though I don't mind send them to one), but just a random clip of anyone is only convincing to those who are looking to be convinced and too lazy or unwilling to actually look at the big picture.

On May 06 2016 02:17 Plansix wrote:
Oh man, this is going to be one of those "what is socialism" style debates that is really tedious and everyone talks past each other.

On May 06 2016 03:54 GreenHorizons wrote:


So what your saying is that it didn't lack any nuance or context relating to Bosnia?

Donald Trump suggested Wednesday that he would be open to lifting the minimum wage, switching his previous primary campaign stance that the U.S. could not afford to hike the current federal rate of $7.25 per hour.

Asked specifically if he was "open to raising the minimum wage" during an interview with CNN's Wolf Blitzer, Trump responded: "I am open to doing something with it, because I don't like that."

"But," he added, "what I really do like is bring our jobs back so they're making much more than the 15 dollars."

The billionaire's statement comes just a day after his last opponent, Ohio Gov. John Kasich, bowed out of the Republican primary race, leaving Trump to court general election voters as the likely GOP nominee. Trump's possible opponents in November have both pledged to raise the minimum wage by varying degrees: Hillary Clinton is open to a $12 minimum wage, while Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders has called for a $15 wage increase.

During the primary campaign season, Trump, like his other Republican rivals, rejected any proposals for minimum wage raises.

At a GOP debate in November, the New York business mogul said of the federal wage rate: "We have to leave it the way it is."

"People have to go out, they have to work really hard and have to get into that upper stratum," he said. "But we cannot do this if we are going to compete with the rest of the world. We just can't do it."

Trump, in another interview with CNN in 2013, suggested the possibility of two minimum wage rates: one for teenagers and another elevated rate for adults.

"You don't want to do anything that's going to keep the incentive away for whether it's McDonald's expanding in this country," Trump told CNN over two years ago. "At the same time you have to let people live."

Barring Rick Santorum's populist policies, no other GOP White House contenders had supported a jump in the minimum wage, and the issue remains an unpopular one among Republicans.

In Wednesday's CNN interview, Trump said he was "actually looking at" lifting the minimum wage.

"Because I'm very different from most Republicans," he said. "I mean, you have to have something that you can live on."

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