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Plansix
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LegalLord
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On May 06 2016 02:17 Plansix wrote: Oh man, this is going to be one of those "what is socialism" style debates that is really tedious and everyone talks past each other. Indeed. I'm hoping we can nip this argument in the bud before it leads to 5 pages of unreadable tedium. | ||
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xDaunt
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On May 06 2016 01:35 Biff The Understudy wrote: You "shit" on his article selection. Charming as usual, xDaunt. I'm here for my own entertainment. | ||
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Plansix
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On May 06 2016 02:20 LegalLord wrote: Indeed. I'm hoping we can nip this argument in the bud before it leads to 5 pages of unreadable tedium. My master plan is to mock it as having little to do with immediate state of US politics and is mostly an argument based around semantics. Then the snotty response about being unwilling to debate the issue will hopefully derail the discussion. Or Trump will do something amazingly stupid, like blame the Flint water issue on Muslims. | ||
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WhiteDog
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On May 06 2016 02:29 LegalLord wrote: Oh and incidentally, happy 198th birthday to Marx. Amen brother. Nice picture farv, but Hillary is waving her hand a little too high, kwizach might not like it. | ||
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ticklishmusic
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WhiteDog
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On May 06 2016 02:49 Barrin wrote: Donald Trump hints at changing stance on minimum wage He is hunting for the Sanders supporters. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
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A group of more than 2,000 physicians is calling for the establishment of a universal government-run health system in the US, in a paper in the American Journal of Public Health. According to the proposal released Thursday, the Affordable Care Act did not go far enough in removing barriers to healthcare access. The physicians’ bold plan calls for implementing a single-payer system similar to Canada’s, called the National Health Program, that would guarantee all residents healthcare. The new single-payer system would be funded mostly by existing US government funding. The physicians point out that the US government already pays for two-thirds of all healthcare spending in the US, and a single-payer system would cut down on administrative costs, so a transition to a single-payer system would not require significant additional spending. “Our patients can’t afford care and don’t have access to the care they need, while the system is ever more wasteful, throwing away money on bureaucratic expenses and absurd prices from the drug companies,” said David Himmelstein, a professor in the CUNY School of Public Health at Hunter College and lecturer on medicine at Harvard Medical School. Himmelstein, one of the authors of the plan, said the proposal is meant as a rallying cry for physicians and other healthcare professionals around the cause of a single-payer model. According to the paper, even with the passage of the Affordable Care Act many patients “face rising co-payments and deductibles that compromise access to care and leave them vulnerable to ruinous medical bills.” Despite the current high healthcare spending levels in the US, healthcare outcomes are worse than in comparable well-funded countries. Source | ||
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BallinWitStalin
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On May 06 2016 02:49 Barrin wrote: Donald Trump hints at changing stance on minimum wage Man people totally underestimate this guy. This is just the first part of an upcoming big swing left back to the center of American politics. Honestly, expect him to totally tone down the racism and start talking about issues like this. He's done fighting Republicans (he solidly won that battle). And as soon as victory was declared, he started moving on to Democrats. Cruz was right, this dude is a liar. He's willing to say anything at all, and willing to play any angle he needs to that's currently to his advantage. He's the epitome of a populist flavor-of-the-month candidate. And he's honestly doing it well. I think this election might be closer than a lot of people think. At this point, it's honestly anyone's guess as to what an actual set of Trump presidency policies will be, as he'll always just say whatever he thinks is currently advantageous. I just hope xDaunt is right, and he'll govern from a more technocrat position if he wins (I still don't want that to happen, though). | ||
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GreenHorizons
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On May 05 2016 22:51 Mohdoo wrote: Until there is a metric indicating Clinton would benefit from releasing the transcripts, she's not going to. Why do people even talk about this? It is such an impossibility it makes no sense. Agreed. He is a hero. People talk about it because she blatantly lied about why she isn't releasing them. Clinton is almost as bad as Trump when it comes to lying. I know her lying about it doesn't bother her supporters, but other people have good reason not to trust her, and it has nothing to do with a "vast right-wing conspiracy" People wave off the Bosnia lies, but it's pretty ridiculous how easily she just completely fabricated a false reality. She makes Brian Williams look like Bobby Jones. | ||
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ticklishmusic
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{CC}StealthBlue
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The New York Times reported on Wednesday that Republican National Committee staffers were told that if they could not embrace Donald Trump as the Republican presidential nominee they would need to leave by the end of this week. Here's the unsourced Times report: Some staff members at the Republican National Committee were told Wednesday that if they were unable to get behind the nominee, they should leave by the end of the week. The RNC denied the Times' report on Thursday morning. "That is 100% false," RNC spokeswoman Lindsay Walters wrote in an email to TPM when asked about the Times article. After Donald Trump became the party's presumptive nominee with a big win in the Indiana primary, the RNC called on Republicans to rally behind Trump. While several lawmakers have affirmed this week that they will back Trump as the nominee, some conservatives still refuse to back the real estate mogul. Source | ||
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ragz_gt
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On May 06 2016 03:16 GreenHorizons wrote: People talk about it because she blatantly lied about why she isn't releasing them. Clinton is almost as bad as Trump when it comes to lying. I know her lying about it doesn't bother her supporters, but other people have good reason not to trust her, and it has nothing to do with a "vast right-wing conspiracy" People wave off the Bosnia lies, but it's pretty ridiculous how easily she just completely fabricated a false reality. She makes Brian Williams look like Bobby Jones. https://youtu.be/-dY77j6uBHI?t=8m37s I kinda want to watch that video just for the LULz but I'm afraid my youtube feed will get spammed by conspiracy junk. | ||
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GreenHorizons
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On May 06 2016 03:24 ragz_gt wrote: I kinda want to watch that video just for the LULz but I'm afraid my youtube feed will get spammed by conspiracy junk. It's not conspiracy stuff. The part I highlighted is just a CBS report. | ||
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ragz_gt
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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/9/5/1127885/-Jon-Stewart-warns-Dems-Americans-don-t-do-nuance | ||
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