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Godwrath
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oneofthem
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On April 29 2016 01:45 Godwrath wrote: Oh, so it's people just circlejerking at the stupid. I find it intelectually dishonest, when you already know that Bernie wants to reduce the money in politics and campaigns, so making cuts into campaign spending shouldn't be a big deal or a contradiction, but what do i know. His "revolution" needs more than a primary. He had has tremendous issues with various demographics and states. He has a huge need for more staff to help bring his numbers up in places where he got his ass kicked. If his message was catching on the way it needs to, distributing staff to plan for the general and help fix up his numbers would be a great idea. And that's my point. This is the absolute opposite of revolution. This is accepting you hit a wall financially while still keeping the silly rhetoric. | ||
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IgnE
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Plansix
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Randomaccount#77123
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
On April 29 2016 00:04 LegalLord wrote: Personally I find it really hard to believe that anyone could prefer Cruz to Trump, and I think his favorability is higher only by virtue of the fact that he isn't the front runner. Seems like some of the R party members at the very least agree with me. This is what I'm puzzled by as well. Trump, for all his divisive rhetoric, is a lot more moderate than Cruz is. He at least knows how to negotiate and compromise. Cruz doesn't. I get the vibe from our non-US posters that they think that Trump is the crazy one. Maybe Cruz never gets featured in European news or something? | ||
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m4ini
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On April 29 2016 02:50 andrewlt wrote: This is what I'm puzzled by as well. Trump, for all his divisive rhetoric, is a lot more moderate than Cruz is. He at least knows how to negotiate and compromise. Cruz doesn't. I get the vibe from our non-US posters that they think that Trump is the crazy one. Maybe Cruz never gets featured in European news or something? First of all, i'd actually say Trump has no idea how to negotiate or compromise. In fact, i'm absolutely certain he does not know how to compromise. And no, non-US posters don't think he's the crazy one - he's the dumb, populistic one. Cruz is the crazy, zealot-y one. Which doesn't have a shot at presidency, so people generally ignore it. And no, cruz doesn't get many featured articles in germany at least, compared to trump - but he doesn't say outright dumb shit constantly either. In fact, i'd say that he fits the narrative of "american" in foreign countries rather well, just a bit more extreme. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11907 Posts
Trump is just featured more often because he is good with media/realized that saying weird shit with confidence gives you attention, and thus he is the current face of the "crazy republican" persona. | ||
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ticklishmusic
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Sent.
Poland9317 Posts
On April 29 2016 02:50 andrewlt wrote: This is what I'm puzzled by as well. Trump, for all his divisive rhetoric, is a lot more moderate than Cruz is. He at least knows how to negotiate and compromise. Cruz doesn't. I get the vibe from our non-US posters that they think that Trump is the crazy one. Maybe Cruz never gets featured in European news or something? Here Cruz is only mentioned as a rival to Trump, they never talk about him or his ideas. | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
Watching a bit of c-span debate, Republicans trying to pass a law to nullify the Department of Labor regulation that requires retirement savings advisors to act as fiduciaries (in the clients' best interests). The Repubs are claiming that England tried something very similar, and it didn't work out well in practice, can anyone from there shed more light on that? | ||
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Sermokala
United States14155 Posts
On April 29 2016 03:21 Barrin wrote: I find Cruz's unwavering religious (right wing) stances on certain social issues, particularly women's rights, rather worrying. The thing is he's almost certainly either a liar or a hypocrite when it comes to his faith, probably both. Cruz is so easy to dislike. Why do you find it so worrying when the entire party is suppose to have that attitude? And thats a pretty heavy prejudice against another group of people. At least the third we both agree on. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
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The Obama administration is pressing individual states to join its mission to cut back on the use of solitary confinement in US prisons, in the hope of reining in a practice that is still widespread despite having been denounced as potentially amounting to torture. The drive from the White House and Department of Justice is tacit recognition that without the cooperation of state corrections departments and legislatures – many of them Republican-controlled – the goal of reducing solitary confinement will remain a pipe dream. There are as many as 100,000 people in segregated cells in the US, a number that sets the country apart from most of the rest of the world and exceeds the entire prison populations of countries such as the UK, France and Germany. This year Barack Obama announced far-reaching reforms that would dramatically reduce the use of solitary, or “restrictive housing”, within the federal prison system. He said the practice of placing inmates in tiny cells with virtually no human contact was overused and an “affront to our common humanity”. Without support at state level, however, he is stymied in his wider ambitions. The figure of 10,000 prisoners held in isolation by the federal Bureau of Prisons (BOP) is dwarfed by that of as many as 90,000 inmates kept in similarly harsh conditions in state-run prisons. They include as many as 25,000 people held in total isolation in “super-max” prisons, which have proliferated over the past 20 years across at least 40 states. Super-max prisoners are kept in 6ft by 9ft cells, typically for up to 23 hours a day with minimal or no human interaction. Source | ||
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Sermokala
United States14155 Posts
On April 29 2016 03:31 Barrin wrote: Of course I found the entire party's stance on it worrying. But Trump is far more secular. He's personally conservative too, but wont really let it affect his social policy, at least not as far as womens' rights. What exactly are you talking about? You think that hes almost certainly either a liar or a hypocrite when it comes to his faith, probably both. You don't see how that could be pretty insulting and offensive to people? ( I know you didn't say it to me I'm just curious about why you'd show such a public prejudice like that) I don't see how hes personally conservative. Nothing hes said so far has been conservative. and after the shit hes said about women during the campaign Any my question was why you found it worrying when it hasn't changed and a whole bunch of people share the view. I can understand you don't agree with it and you rather dislike it because of them but I don't understand worry over it. | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6288 Posts
On April 29 2016 02:50 andrewlt wrote: This is what I'm puzzled by as well. Trump, for all his divisive rhetoric, is a lot more moderate than Cruz is. He at least knows how to negotiate and compromise. Cruz doesn't. I get the vibe from our non-US posters that they think that Trump is the crazy one. Maybe Cruz never gets featured in European news or something? You're right that Cruz barely gets mentioned but they're both considered pretty crazy. Then again there's a huge bias towards democrats and against republicans nowadays while 90% of the population don't even know anything about the political system in the US except that they vote for a president every 4 years. Christian extremism isn't contained to the US btw. In NL we have a small christian conservative party with 2 seats (of 150) which didn't allow women in (until they got forced by the judiciary). It's just that there are less here and they're contained in thekr own little party instead of a significant group in a larger party like the Republicans. | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
I wish they'd remove religion from their all their social arguments completely (while not putting attention on artificial problems like should we make bathrooms for transgender people, and all this really liberal stuff that isn't even worth discussing imo), accept global warming, and pursue their current economic policies. That is the best of all worlds - I think tying yourself down to Christianity will never win you another election in the US. Whenever I hear almost any hardline republican talk like Ted Cruz talk, I really ask myself, how can anyone possibly like this guy? His views are from the 18th century, and I don't know a single person on the internet who supports him, and nobody can give me a logical argument to support him besides to not let Trump get into power. And that's why Trump is doing so well in my opinion, he's removed the religion completely. Trump is democrat on social issues, while he's a Republican on economic and security issues, that's what the world needs. So when people say he's not really a Republican, I'd tend to agree, and I think that will take him far. | ||
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