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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
April 28 2016 01:03 GMT
#73901
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15686 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-28 02:06:55
April 28 2016 02:02 GMT
#73902
re: oneofthem -- welcome back!

re: NATO -- the idea of Russia taking land was something laughed off as something "too crazy to ever happen". Then Crimea. I think that shit is whack.

(thx CannonsNCarriers for the notation)
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13925 Posts
April 28 2016 02:14 GMT
#73903
Well if Europe doesn't care about Russia much I guess we don't have to worry about them either.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
puerk
Profile Joined February 2015
Germany855 Posts
April 28 2016 02:22 GMT
#73904
On April 28 2016 11:14 Sermokala wrote:
Well if Europe doesn't care about Russia much I guess we don't have to worry about them either.


"Europe" cares a whole lot about russia but it is a monotonously decreasing function of distance to russia. All the polish and baltic posters here (that i remember) have voiced great concern about russian foreign policy ideals. Some germans have too, but the further west you go the lower it seems to be on the priorities list.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-28 02:33:39
April 28 2016 02:32 GMT
#73905
The day after Donald Trump leapfrogged toward the GOP nomination, this was how top House Republicans spent their Wednesday: Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy hosted a technology summit where he touted the passage of the first email privacy bill since “Top Gun” hit theaters in 1986, and Indiana Rep. Susan Brooks boasted of teaching her Hill colleagues how to use Snapchat.

Paul Ryan, meanwhile, headed to Georgetown to try and persuade graduating seniors that they should make the GOP – the one on the verge of making Trump its nominee – their party. The speaker also huddled with rank-and-file Republicans in the Capitol basement to talk up his legislative agenda.

“Take advantage of the work we’re doing this week,” Ryan told them. “If we don’t tell this story, no one will."

House leaders are effectively trying to create an alternate political universe in which Trump is relegated to an afterthought. Forget about delegate counts or a possible floor fight in Cleveland. The focus on Capitol Hill is on crafting an agenda — one that, to be sure, won’t become law — to try and project a competing, more substantive face of the Republican party.
A face, in other words, that looks nothing like Trump's.

Most House Republicans will concede in a private moment that the presidential election is all but lost for them. The prevailing expectation is that their party will lose the White House and the Senate, and probably and see their House majority trimmed by 10 to 15 seats.

That's why they overwhelmingly welcome Ryan’s efforts to talk about something besides the brawl between Trump and Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), even if lawmakers snicker about Ryan’s repetitive tone and glossy videos. Even McCarthy, Ryan’s No. 2, joked earlier this week that talking about his “innovation initiative” was making journalists’ eyes glaze over.

“It’s hard for us to get attention when we’re competing with Donald Trump,” said Pennsylvania Republican Rep. Charlie Dent. “What Ryan and McCarthy are trying to do is establish an agenda for the House, and I think that is important given the challenge we’re facing in the presidential election, which sucks up all the oxygen,”

Trump’s Hill supporters say GOP leaders are wasting their time. If Ryan is trying to change the subject from Trump, it’s a lost cause.


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"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13925 Posts
April 28 2016 02:42 GMT
#73906
Nothing else for the guy to do. No one sensible wants a trump victory even if it means control of the whitehouse and presumably holding the senate.

Just gotta start planning for 2018 now.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
puerk
Profile Joined February 2015
Germany855 Posts
April 28 2016 02:56 GMT
#73907
And one more on foreign policy: you can not get great deals or effective foreign policy when you get ridiculed to unprecedented amounts. The Spiegel put out a piece ridiculing Trumps foreign policy speech a couple of hours ago, pointing out all the contradictions (as was done in the thread also), the weird style and the general unreliableness everything about it projects.

It is one thing to have differences of oppinion with a foreign leader (like with bush or putin), but an other when you can not and do not even take it serious anymore what he is saying. Luckily it is quite impossible for him to win this general election but his rise to relevancy is still troubling.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15686 Posts
April 28 2016 03:21 GMT
#73908
The more I think about it, the more I am thinking Trump may announce a VP before Indiana.
Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
April 28 2016 03:55 GMT
#73909
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-28 03:59:53
April 28 2016 03:59 GMT
#73910
The US Senate talks a good game about sending humans to Mars. The group holds itself up as the protector of NASA and a champion for the space organization's grand exploration aims. For example, as part of this spring's appropriations process, the chairman of the Senate subcommittee with oversight of NASA's budget chided Charlie Bolden, the space agency's administrator, when his budget request didn't amply fund exploration.

"Mr. Administrator, you have traveled around the country in recent months touting NASA’s strong support for the SLS and Orion missions, when in reality this budget will effectively delay any advancement in a NASA-led human mission to Mars, or anywhere at all," Sen. Richard Shelby, a Republican senator from Alabama, told Bolden during a hearing in March.

Shelby was upset with Bolden because the president's budget request did not seek a stratospheric level of funding for the Space Launch System rocket, which is being designed at Marshall Space Flight Center in Alabama. And if there were any doubt about his parochial intent, consider Shelby's own position statement on NASA: "The ability of NASA to achieve our goals for further space exploration has always been and always will be through Marshall Space Flight Center."

In his efforts to rectify the budget, Shelby therefore increased the funding for NASA's heavy lift rocket by $840 million, a 60 percent bump. To help pay for this, his committee cut the space agency's technology budget request from $826.7 million to $686.5 million. Additionally, the committee specified that $130 million of the space technology budget should be spent on the RESTORE-L initiative to refuel the aging Landsat 7 satellite.

This week we learned one of the consequences of those cuts. According to a report in Space News, James Reuter, NASA deputy associate administrator for space technology, said Tuesday the Low Density Supersonic Decelerator project would get only a small fraction of its originally planned budget of $20 million for 2016. The cut exemplifies the political hamstringing of NASA's exploration efforts.


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"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44312 Posts
April 28 2016 10:17 GMT
#73911
On April 28 2016 12:21 Mohdoo wrote:
The more I think about it, the more I am thinking Trump may announce a VP before Indiana.


Palin please. That would just make this rodeo even more crazy.

I don't understand why Cruz would pick Fiorina as his running mate... she has literally 0 appeal; no one liked her at all in the primary. Rubio or some other posterboy-for-the-Republican-establishment would have been a stronger choice, no? As opposed to a failed businesswoman who doesn't even have the enthusiasm of Sarah Palin?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
April 28 2016 11:27 GMT
#73912
Because she is a strong and powerful woman duuuuh.

Guy is desperate I guess, trying to draw some of Trump's supporters to his side by hiring an ex-ceo from a major company?
(even though she hard a really hard time at that company).
WriterXiao8~~
pmh
Profile Joined March 2016
1352 Posts
April 28 2016 12:07 GMT
#73913
Cruz picking Fiorina is just a play on trumps supposed weakness with women,hoping to catch some voters who are in doubt. Its a desperate play.
This November will be epic, president trump. There is no stopping now,it will only get stronger.
Clinton is going to be obliterated if trump plays it smart.

Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15686 Posts
April 28 2016 12:47 GMT
#73914
Fiorina is an all-in for Indiana. She's totally insane when it comes to abortion and the other types of "classic gop redneck philosophies". I think she will definitely help in Indiana by giving Cruz essentially the ability to copy himself. Having Fiorina give speeches and shit all over Indiana will for sure help him. I don't think it'll help enough, but it might.

Either way, he had to. He is totally done if he doesn't win Indiana. So he may as well go all in right? As for trump, now that I have given it more thought, I think he's gonna take a risk on Indiana, maybe. If he wants until after Indiana, he can pick someone more centrist for California and the general election. He doesn't want to get bogged down by Sarah Palin in the general.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
April 28 2016 12:56 GMT
#73915
i see it as a case of 500000 not buying what it used to
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
DickMcFanny
Profile Blog Joined September 2015
Ireland1076 Posts
April 28 2016 13:01 GMT
#73916
500.000 USD, or as oneofthem calls it: a week's worth of groceries.
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Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-28 13:02:59
April 28 2016 13:01 GMT
#73917
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15686 Posts
April 28 2016 13:05 GMT
#73918
On April 28 2016 22:01 Barrin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2016 21:56 oneofthem wrote:
i see it as a case of 500000 not buying what it used to

What are you referring to?

Cruz pac donation to Fiorina pac, long suspected of covering up an affair between cruz and a Fiorina staffer.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
April 28 2016 13:07 GMT
#73919
Dennis Rodman should be Trump's VP choice. It's the only one that would be consistent with his campaign so far, and he is a well-known expert on East Asian diplomacy. He'll make us such good deals that we're going to win again.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
April 28 2016 13:14 GMT
#73920
Cruz picked Fiorina because she's better than nothing (in the primary at least) and he's in desperation mode. None of the other dropouts would want the position except maybe Carson, and nobody wants Carson as their VP.
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