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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18821 Posts
April 28 2016 14:03 GMT
#73921
There's this one crazy Republican woman in my classes who fucking loves Carly, so nice job picking up her vote, Cruz.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
April 28 2016 14:07 GMT
#73922
Shamelessly re-posting my poll for more answers...! Mohdoo, I think there's no chance of Hillary picking Sandoval. It could further turn off Sanders supporters, and she's already perceived as centrist enough not to need someone like Sandoval to attract moderate voters. With regards to Warren, I'm not sure the two of them have enough chemistry, or that Warren would be interested.

On April 28 2016 06:49 kwizach wrote:
So, who do you guys think Hillary will pick as her running mate?

Several names are being discussed -- see analyses here, here and here. I personally do not think she'll be going with Julian Castro, even though he's currently a favorite on betting markets. He's not experienced enough yet, and I just don't see him delivering much to the ticket. He's Hispanic, but he doesn't speak Spanish well. I'm absolutely certain Sanders won't be picked -- not only would this open the ticket to countless lines of attack from the GOP based on Sanders' image, it would also allow Republicans to endlessly replay clips of Sanders attacking Clinton -- something they're already planning on doing, but which will have even more of an impact if Sanders is on the ticket. He wouldn't bring much anyway, since most of his supporters are already ready to support her, many more will follow suit, and the few most radical #BernieorBust supporters would probably not vote for her even if he was her VP. There's no way she's picking him.

Right now, my top three are Tom Perez, Tim Kaine and Sherrod Brown, with Tom Perez currently being my first guess. All have strengths and weaknesses. Kaine and Brown are both senators, and I don't know if Hillary is willing to risk sacrificing their seats when Democrats have an opportunity to re-take the senate. Perez has not held an elected office above a seat in a suburban county council. At the same time, he's been fantastic as labor secretary, he's a policy wonk who's likely to do more than hold his own in the VP debate, labor unions love him, he's charismatic, he's a Hispanic who's fluent in Spanish... He isn't tied to a swing state, though, contrary to Brown who's representing Ohio and Kaine who's representing Virginia. What do you guys think? Here's a poll, mostly using the popular picks from the betting website I linked to above:

Poll: Who will be Hillary's VP pick?

Elizabeth Warren (4)
 
29%

Julian Castro (3)
 
21%

Tom Perez (2)
 
14%

Sherrod Brown (1)
 
7%

Cory Booker (1)
 
7%

Bernie Sanders (1)
 
7%

Mark Warner (1)
 
7%

Al Franken (1)
 
7%

Tim Kaine (0)
 
0%

Deval Patrick (0)
 
0%

Gary Locke (0)
 
0%

Someone else (explain in comments) (0)
 
0%

14 total votes

Your vote: Who will be Hillary's VP pick?

(Vote): Julian Castro
(Vote): Tim Kaine
(Vote): Tom Perez
(Vote): Sherrod Brown
(Vote): Elizabeth Warren
(Vote): Cory Booker
(Vote): Bernie Sanders
(Vote): Mark Warner
(Vote): Deval Patrick
(Vote): Al Franken
(Vote): Gary Locke
(Vote): Someone else (explain in comments)


"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -- Stephen Colbert
kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
April 28 2016 14:09 GMT
#73923
In other news, Boehner had an interesting choice of words to describe Cruz:

Much of the discussion – and laughs – focused on Boehner’s views on the current presidential candidates. Segueing into the topic, Kennedy asked Boehner to be frank given that the event was not being broadcasted, and the former Speaker responded in kind. When specifically asked his opinions on Ted Cruz, Boehner made a face, drawing laughter from the crowd.

“Lucifer in the flesh,” the former speaker said. “I have Democrat friends and Republican friends. I get along with almost everyone, but I have never worked with a more miserable son of a bitch in my life.”

Boehner described other Republican candidates as friends. In particular, the former speaker said he has played golf with Donald Trump for years and that they were “texting buddies.”

His friendship with Ohio Governor John Kasich, however, was a little more ambiguous.

“[Kasich] requires more effort on my behalf than all my other friends … but he’s still my friend, and I love him,” Boehner said.

Source
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -- Stephen Colbert
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15525 Posts
April 28 2016 14:28 GMT
#73924
On April 28 2016 23:09 kwizach wrote:
In other news, Boehner had an interesting choice of words to describe Cruz:

Show nested quote +
Much of the discussion – and laughs – focused on Boehner’s views on the current presidential candidates. Segueing into the topic, Kennedy asked Boehner to be frank given that the event was not being broadcasted, and the former Speaker responded in kind. When specifically asked his opinions on Ted Cruz, Boehner made a face, drawing laughter from the crowd.

“Lucifer in the flesh,” the former speaker said. “I have Democrat friends and Republican friends. I get along with almost everyone, but I have never worked with a more miserable son of a bitch in my life.”

Boehner described other Republican candidates as friends. In particular, the former speaker said he has played golf with Donald Trump for years and that they were “texting buddies.”

His friendship with Ohio Governor John Kasich, however, was a little more ambiguous.

“[Kasich] requires more effort on my behalf than all my other friends … but he’s still my friend, and I love him,” Boehner said.

Source


Wow. Lucifer. Indiana rednecks aren't too fond of Lucifer :o Indiana being my birthplace is my greatest shame.
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
April 28 2016 14:31 GMT
#73925
On April 28 2016 23:28 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2016 23:09 kwizach wrote:
In other news, Boehner had an interesting choice of words to describe Cruz:

Much of the discussion – and laughs – focused on Boehner’s views on the current presidential candidates. Segueing into the topic, Kennedy asked Boehner to be frank given that the event was not being broadcasted, and the former Speaker responded in kind. When specifically asked his opinions on Ted Cruz, Boehner made a face, drawing laughter from the crowd.

“Lucifer in the flesh,” the former speaker said. “I have Democrat friends and Republican friends. I get along with almost everyone, but I have never worked with a more miserable son of a bitch in my life.”

Boehner described other Republican candidates as friends. In particular, the former speaker said he has played golf with Donald Trump for years and that they were “texting buddies.”

His friendship with Ohio Governor John Kasich, however, was a little more ambiguous.

“[Kasich] requires more effort on my behalf than all my other friends … but he’s still my friend, and I love him,” Boehner said.

Source


Wow. Lucifer. Indiana rednecks aren't too fond of Lucifer :o Indiana being my birthplace is my greatest shame.


wow a fellow Hoosier who has no pride in his state? Sad!
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15525 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-28 14:42:56
April 28 2016 14:36 GMT
#73926
On April 28 2016 23:31 amazingxkcd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2016 23:28 Mohdoo wrote:
On April 28 2016 23:09 kwizach wrote:
In other news, Boehner had an interesting choice of words to describe Cruz:

Much of the discussion – and laughs – focused on Boehner’s views on the current presidential candidates. Segueing into the topic, Kennedy asked Boehner to be frank given that the event was not being broadcasted, and the former Speaker responded in kind. When specifically asked his opinions on Ted Cruz, Boehner made a face, drawing laughter from the crowd.

“Lucifer in the flesh,” the former speaker said. “I have Democrat friends and Republican friends. I get along with almost everyone, but I have never worked with a more miserable son of a bitch in my life.”

Boehner described other Republican candidates as friends. In particular, the former speaker said he has played golf with Donald Trump for years and that they were “texting buddies.”

His friendship with Ohio Governor John Kasich, however, was a little more ambiguous.

“[Kasich] requires more effort on my behalf than all my other friends … but he’s still my friend, and I love him,” Boehner said.

Source


Wow. Lucifer. Indiana rednecks aren't too fond of Lucifer :o Indiana being my birthplace is my greatest shame.


wow a fellow Hoosier who has no pride in his state? Sad!


I've never found NASCAR to be my cup of tea, but I would gladly attend if given a red Trump hat and American flag overalls.

edit: Am I the only one reveling in the scathing irony of Bernie laying off a ton of his staff? God it's just so amazing. People had jobs and now they don't because his message wasn't working. What was the case he's trying to make again?
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21590 Posts
April 28 2016 14:37 GMT
#73927
On April 28 2016 23:09 kwizach wrote:
In other news, Boehner had an interesting choice of words to describe Cruz:

Show nested quote +
Much of the discussion – and laughs – focused on Boehner’s views on the current presidential candidates. Segueing into the topic, Kennedy asked Boehner to be frank given that the event was not being broadcasted, and the former Speaker responded in kind. When specifically asked his opinions on Ted Cruz, Boehner made a face, drawing laughter from the crowd.

“Lucifer in the flesh,” the former speaker said. “I have Democrat friends and Republican friends. I get along with almost everyone, but I have never worked with a more miserable son of a bitch in my life.”

Boehner described other Republican candidates as friends. In particular, the former speaker said he has played golf with Donald Trump for years and that they were “texting buddies.”

His friendship with Ohio Governor John Kasich, however, was a little more ambiguous.

“[Kasich] requires more effort on my behalf than all my other friends … but he’s still my friend, and I love him,” Boehner said.

Source

"Go on, be honest, no one else will know"
Followed by it getting thrown on the internet minutes later.

It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-28 14:49:27
April 28 2016 14:45 GMT
#73928
On April 28 2016 23:36 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2016 23:31 amazingxkcd wrote:
On April 28 2016 23:28 Mohdoo wrote:
On April 28 2016 23:09 kwizach wrote:
In other news, Boehner had an interesting choice of words to describe Cruz:

Much of the discussion – and laughs – focused on Boehner’s views on the current presidential candidates. Segueing into the topic, Kennedy asked Boehner to be frank given that the event was not being broadcasted, and the former Speaker responded in kind. When specifically asked his opinions on Ted Cruz, Boehner made a face, drawing laughter from the crowd.

“Lucifer in the flesh,” the former speaker said. “I have Democrat friends and Republican friends. I get along with almost everyone, but I have never worked with a more miserable son of a bitch in my life.”

Boehner described other Republican candidates as friends. In particular, the former speaker said he has played golf with Donald Trump for years and that they were “texting buddies.”

His friendship with Ohio Governor John Kasich, however, was a little more ambiguous.

“[Kasich] requires more effort on my behalf than all my other friends … but he’s still my friend, and I love him,” Boehner said.

Source


Wow. Lucifer. Indiana rednecks aren't too fond of Lucifer :o Indiana being my birthplace is my greatest shame.


wow a fellow Hoosier who has no pride in his state? Sad!


I've never found NASCAR to be my cup of tea, but I would gladly attend if given a red Trump hat and American flag overalls.

edit: Am I the only one reveling in the scathing irony of Bernie laying off a ton of his staff? God it's just so amazing. People had jobs and now they don't because his message wasn't working. What was the case he's trying to make again?


no he's rightsizing his operations to align with his strategic goals as we shills say

his campaign is sending hella mixed messages though
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 28 2016 14:53 GMT
#73929
On April 28 2016 23:09 kwizach wrote:
In other news, Boehner had an interesting choice of words to describe Cruz:

Show nested quote +
Much of the discussion – and laughs – focused on Boehner’s views on the current presidential candidates. Segueing into the topic, Kennedy asked Boehner to be frank given that the event was not being broadcasted, and the former Speaker responded in kind. When specifically asked his opinions on Ted Cruz, Boehner made a face, drawing laughter from the crowd.

“Lucifer in the flesh,” the former speaker said. “I have Democrat friends and Republican friends. I get along with almost everyone, but I have never worked with a more miserable son of a bitch in my life.”

Boehner described other Republican candidates as friends. In particular, the former speaker said he has played golf with Donald Trump for years and that they were “texting buddies.”

His friendship with Ohio Governor John Kasich, however, was a little more ambiguous.

“[Kasich] requires more effort on my behalf than all my other friends … but he’s still my friend, and I love him,” Boehner said.

Source

Amazing. I love who the older, longer term Republicans are just putting the Tea party darlings on blast because there is no point to pretending any more.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-28 15:06:01
April 28 2016 15:04 GMT
#73930
Personally I find it really hard to believe that anyone could prefer Cruz to Trump, and I think his favorability is higher only by virtue of the fact that he isn't the front runner. Seems like some of the R party members at the very least agree with me.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
April 28 2016 15:07 GMT
#73931
bernie getting some of that flexiblility. gotta stay competitive in a dynamic industry
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15525 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-28 15:51:55
April 28 2016 15:21 GMT
#73932
On April 29 2016 00:07 oneofthem wrote:
bernie getting some of that flexiblility. gotta stay competitive in a dynamic industry


Good point. He is now competing with Bush, Carson, Christie, Fiorina, Gilmore, Graham, Huckabee, Jindal, Pataki, Paul, Perry, Rubio, Santorum, Walker, Chafee, Lessig, O'Malley and, most notably...

JIM FUCKING Webb

On April 29 2016 00:04 LegalLord wrote:
Personally I find it really hard to believe that anyone could prefer Cruz to Trump, and I think his favorability is higher only by virtue of the fact that he isn't the front runner. Seems like some of the R party members at the very least agree with me.


I think a big thing is that republicans feel embarrassed. Here comes a democrat, says a bunch of racist, divisive, chest beating stuff, and is suddenly a winner. He exploited the most hushed aspects of the republican voter base and ran away with it. The fact that he's a democrat doesn't seem to faze people (and they probably don't even know) because he is saying a ton of angry shit and people are really angry.

This being from a party that is constantly vying for dominance in the world's most powerful country? God's own chosen country? That's ridiculous. Cruz is at least sort of "one of them".
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
April 28 2016 15:48 GMT
#73933
phase -> faze

ugh
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15525 Posts
April 28 2016 15:53 GMT
#73934
On April 29 2016 00:48 ticklishmusic wrote:
phase -> faze

ugh

woops, thanks. My work tends to use "phase" really often, so I'll blame that lol
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
April 28 2016 15:54 GMT
#73935
On April 28 2016 23:45 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2016 23:36 Mohdoo wrote:
On April 28 2016 23:31 amazingxkcd wrote:
On April 28 2016 23:28 Mohdoo wrote:
On April 28 2016 23:09 kwizach wrote:
In other news, Boehner had an interesting choice of words to describe Cruz:

Much of the discussion – and laughs – focused on Boehner’s views on the current presidential candidates. Segueing into the topic, Kennedy asked Boehner to be frank given that the event was not being broadcasted, and the former Speaker responded in kind. When specifically asked his opinions on Ted Cruz, Boehner made a face, drawing laughter from the crowd.

“Lucifer in the flesh,” the former speaker said. “I have Democrat friends and Republican friends. I get along with almost everyone, but I have never worked with a more miserable son of a bitch in my life.”

Boehner described other Republican candidates as friends. In particular, the former speaker said he has played golf with Donald Trump for years and that they were “texting buddies.”

His friendship with Ohio Governor John Kasich, however, was a little more ambiguous.

“[Kasich] requires more effort on my behalf than all my other friends … but he’s still my friend, and I love him,” Boehner said.

Source


Wow. Lucifer. Indiana rednecks aren't too fond of Lucifer :o Indiana being my birthplace is my greatest shame.


wow a fellow Hoosier who has no pride in his state? Sad!


I've never found NASCAR to be my cup of tea, but I would gladly attend if given a red Trump hat and American flag overalls.

edit: Am I the only one reveling in the scathing irony of Bernie laying off a ton of his staff? God it's just so amazing. People had jobs and now they don't because his message wasn't working. What was the case he's trying to make again?


no he's rightsizing his operations to align with his strategic goals as we shills say

his campaign is sending hella mixed messages though


i thought he was just laying off local staff in the states that already voted; don't really need said staff around until general election, assuming he's still running of which he can then pick them back up.
The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
Randomaccount#77123
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States5003 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-28 16:05:32
April 28 2016 16:02 GMT
#73936
--- Nuked ---
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15525 Posts
April 28 2016 16:06 GMT
#73937
On April 29 2016 01:02 Barrin wrote:
Sanders Campaign Prepares for Remaining Primaries
Show nested quote +
TERRE HAUTE, Ind. – U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders’ spokesman, Michael Briggs, issued the following statement on Wednesday:

“Our campaign has now completed 80 percent of the primaries and caucuses. We look forward to winning here in Indiana next Tuesday and in the few remaining states and territories holding primaries and caucuses in May and June. That means that we no longer require many of the loyal and dedicated state and national support staffers who helped us in places like New York, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Maryland, Delaware, Pennsylvania and other states where the nominating contests have been completed.

“We will continue to have a strong and dedicated staff of more than 300 workers who are going to help us win in California and other contests still to come.

“This campaign believes that we have a path toward victory and we’re going to marshal our resources to do everything we can to win the Democratic nomination.”

Source




To be clear:

1) He hired staff in certain states to help him with his campaign
2) Those states finished their primary voting
3) Bernie is in dire trouble of losing the primary
4) Bernie lays off staff in those states that already did primary voting so he can focus everything on winning the rest of the primary

Note: If Bernie loses the primary, those staffers lose their jobs anyway. If he wins, he'd be able to re-hire many of them for the general.

I guess you can call this "irony" if you want.


His whole point of his campaign is that the rich steal everything and if people follow his shit, he'll create millions of jobs and we'll ride off into the socialist sunset, happy and cared for. But he is failing to even employ his own message. He hit the wall we were predicting he'd hit months ago. But Bernistas kept insisting polling was wrong and revolution and uh, uh, oligarchy. Then polls were really accurate. And now Bernie is laying people off.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-28 16:31:17
April 28 2016 16:17 GMT
#73938
bernie's campaign is a case of enriching the establishment (devine) at the expense of temp workers and replaceable parts.

but on the positive side, at least they are paying some of their internet trolls with revolution messaging. it's pretty low quality content though.


most productive use of sanders energy would be to refocus his complaints and really try to get a more effective tax system vs international capital, so that plans to redistribute gains from trade can be devised. it's really asking for too much though given what we've seen from his grasp of the subject
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10120 Posts
April 28 2016 16:31 GMT
#73939
Pardon my ignorance on the US elections, but i am reading it as cutting expenses from a campaign which are not required anymore, care to enlighten me ?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 28 2016 16:34 GMT
#73940
On April 29 2016 01:31 Godwrath wrote:
Pardon my ignorance on the US elections, but i am reading it as cutting expenses from a campaign which are not required anymore, care to enlighten me ?

It is. People are just reveling in the mocking of Sanders because its fun and easy. Sanders is going to close out his run and the move on.
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