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oneofthem
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killa_robot
Canada1884 Posts
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On March 30 2016 08:40 killa_robot wrote: Can anyone tell me why the US election is so drawn out? It's a profitable endeavor. | ||
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OuchyDathurts
United States4588 Posts
On March 30 2016 08:40 killa_robot wrote: Can anyone tell me why the US election is so drawn out? I feel like it's just to make everyone hate fucking life so they're less likely to follow along or show up to participate and vote. There's certainly no good reason for it. | ||
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Introvert
United States4706 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21584 Posts
On March 30 2016 08:45 Introvert wrote: Because there are 50 states to cover. an argument in the 1800's. Not the 21e century. It could be held in a single day, it could be done in a month. There is no need to drag it out for 5 months. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19573 Posts
On March 30 2016 08:48 Gorsameth wrote: an argument in the 1800's. Not the 21e century. It could be held in a single day, it could be done in a month. There is no need to drag it out for 5 months. Because its the primaries. It maybe doesn't need to be 5 months, but when you look at this cycle neither side has picked (definitively) a candidate, and one side arguably would have been better suited with and even more prolonged process as it becomes increasingly likely they will end with a plurality candidate in the general. I'd prefer if all 50 states voted several times, but alas it is what it is. | ||
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Introvert
United States4706 Posts
On March 30 2016 08:48 Gorsameth wrote: an argument in the 1800's. Not the 21e century. It could be held in a single day, it could be done in a month. There is no need to drag it out for 5 months. Campaigning still involves things like visiting voters and giving speeches. Can't be done well in a month. There's no reason for it to happen all at once. Presidential elections are once every 4 years, I think we can handle it. | ||
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
On March 30 2016 08:55 Introvert wrote: Campaigning still involves things like visiting voters and giving speeches. Can't be done well in a month. you're begging the question of whether or not the campaign cycle as it is is actually worth it | ||
KwarK
United States42429 Posts
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LemOn
United Kingdom8629 Posts
On March 30 2016 08:24 Lord Tolkien wrote: Many have already endorsed her, but it doesn't matter until the convention because they can change their minds, and usually vote with the total popular vote and delegate counts. Well do they or don't, people seem to be contradicting themselves. And a lot of pro-Hillary are showing them as a total lock like they are on level of pledged ones gotten through vote. | ||
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Introvert
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SpiritoftheTunA
United States20903 Posts
On March 30 2016 09:13 Introvert wrote: Is he talking about the months immediately prior to the November election? Or the primary season? I don't mind the length of either, but surely it's obvious why the primary season can't be just a month. it's really really not, and it's frustrating how you point to the status quo as justification for the status quo | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
Also, because primaries are set more by the parties, which claim to be private organization, than by statutes. | ||
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Introvert
United States4706 Posts
On March 30 2016 09:15 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: it's really really not, and it's frustrating how you point to the status quo as justification for the status quo Justification is: there are a lot of voters all over the country. It takes a long time to campaign around these voters. Therefore, the election season takes a long time to complete. Or are we living in fantasy land where the core of the system is suddenly something different? FPTP isn't going anywhere, so whining about it is pretty pointless. You could even adopt a different view. Primaries give opportunities for voters in solid one party states (such as myself) a chance to perhaps have a say in who is the nominee. So the candidates have to campaign. | ||
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
On March 30 2016 08:33 oneofthem wrote: sanders would do a lot for his own cause if he just toned down the outright marxist sounding rhetoric. for many people it is the sense of the radical left about him that is offputting That's his entire appeal. To be far left. To pretend that America can be Denmark or Sweden on education and what not. For "true progressive change". If he weren't that way, he'd never have gotten this far. Judging by the crowd's he keeps pulling and the rabidness of his fanbase, I always figured the Sandernistas would be vs Trump in the end because they both have the most loyal bases and can pull the largest crowds. It's been great fun to see the left wake up a little as they keep calling out every news organization on facebook saying every organization is in Hillary's pocket and they should mention Bernie more. Especially the NYT readers. | ||
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Chewbacca.
United States3634 Posts
On March 30 2016 09:15 SpiritoftheTunA wrote: it's really really not, and it's frustrating how you point to the status quo as justification for the status quo Look at the Republican primary, it started with what, like 12 candidates? A month is not really enough time for the average person to have a good understanding of the positions/differences between all of those candidates. Sure it is possible with spending time researching or staying glued to the news constantly, but that is pretty atypical. | ||
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On March 30 2016 09:19 SK.Testie wrote: That's his entire appeal. To be far left. To pretend that America can be Denmark or Sweden on education and what not. For "true progressive change". If he weren't that way, he'd never have gotten this far. Judging by the crowd's he keeps pulling and the rabidness of his fanbase, I always figured the Sandernistas would be vs Trump in the end because they both have the most loyal bases and can pull the largest crowds. It's been great fun to see the left wake up a little as they keep calling out every news organization on facebook saying every organization is in Hillary's pocket and they should mention Bernie more. Especially the NYT readers. Interestingly, the last Gallup poll showed that Trump and Clinton have the most enthusiastic supporters. Source I dont know how important this ultimately is this is entailed in their respective positive demographics. | ||
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Kickstart
United States1941 Posts
On a side note, I'll leave this here: www.loser.com | ||
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Soap
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