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corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
March 29 2016 20:19 GMT
#69841
Welcome to the wonderful world of Henri IV.
Also it is not really accurate to say they do as before in Louis le Grand : they do as before *there*, which is a lot more than anywhere else, probably in the world. At Polytechnique, some of my fellow students told me they still didn't know how to do some of the beginning of the year exercises from back then. The end product of this school is quite amusing (but I could top their mark anyway :p ).
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-29 20:22:19
March 29 2016 20:20 GMT
#69842
On March 30 2016 05:19 corumjhaelen wrote:
Welcome to the wonderful world of Henri IV.
Also it is not really accurate to say they do as before in Louis le Grand : they do as before *there*, which is a lot more than anywhere else, probably in the world. At Polytechnique, some of my fellow students told me they still didn't know how to do some of the beginning of the year exercises from back then. The end product of this school is quite amusing (but I could top their mark anyway :p ).

My students can't write simple sentences without faults and tremble in fear when I show them the basic equation of macroeconomics. lol
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
March 29 2016 20:32 GMT
#69843
On March 30 2016 05:20 WhiteDog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2016 05:19 corumjhaelen wrote:
Welcome to the wonderful world of Henri IV.
Also it is not really accurate to say they do as before in Louis le Grand : they do as before *there*, which is a lot more than anywhere else, probably in the world. At Polytechnique, some of my fellow students told me they still didn't know how to do some of the beginning of the year exercises from back then. The end product of this school is quite amusing (but I could top their mark anyway :p ).

My students can't write simple sentences without faults and tremble in fear when I show them the basic equation of macroeconomics. lol

And there was a selection before high school :p
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
March 29 2016 20:34 GMT
#69844
what are these latin themes? seems like a terrible idea
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-29 20:41:27
March 29 2016 20:37 GMT
#69845
Not latin -> latin translation. It's historically the thing that was used to find the best students in France, it's even a proverb now.
Amazing times. I suggest reading Vallès among others if you want to have some fun.
Edit : Proust's description of litterature's old exam subject is pretty great too. "Sophocles writes a letter from Hell to Racine about the reception of Athalie. Imagine..." Serious stuff.
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23797 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-29 20:44:18
March 29 2016 20:43 GMT
#69846
"I get these statistics from government agencies, they're just perfect statistics" - Donald Trump on Scott Walker.

Trump is like a really good mixtape of songs that gets played constantly. Wisconsin bringing back his greatest hits on Scott Walker like hearing a favorite lyric you haven' heard in months but the new hot remix version with fresh insults from his failed run.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
March 29 2016 20:47 GMT
#69847
Why would anyone on earth care what Walker thinks? He legit destroyed his state, just ran it into the god damn ground.
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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18856 Posts
March 29 2016 20:49 GMT
#69848
Walker is still something of a hero among tone deaf, slash-and-burn conservatives. Crazy, I know.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23797 Posts
March 29 2016 20:51 GMT
#69849
On March 30 2016 05:47 OuchyDathurts wrote:
Why would anyone on earth care what Walker thinks? He legit destroyed his state, just ran it into the god damn ground.


He was the conservative favorite coming into the election. Ted Cruz was just the Senator alternative to the Gov. preference back when everyone was sure a Gov. would win.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
March 29 2016 20:52 GMT
#69850
On March 30 2016 05:37 corumjhaelen wrote:
Not latin -> latin translation. It's historically the thing that was used to find the best students in France, it's even a proverb now.
Amazing times. I suggest reading Vallès among others if you want to have some fun.
Edit : Proust's description of litterature's old exam subject is pretty great too. "Sophocles writes a letter from Hell to Racine about the reception of Athalie. Imagine..." Serious stuff.


Learning Latin taught me a lot about English grammar and syntax that can be useful for linguistics which is related to mathematics.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
March 29 2016 20:54 GMT
#69851
Oh, I love latin, and I think it's a great subject. Maybe one's proficiency in it shouldn't have too big of an influence toward his social status though.
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
OuchyDathurts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4588 Posts
March 29 2016 21:04 GMT
#69852
On March 30 2016 05:51 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2016 05:47 OuchyDathurts wrote:
Why would anyone on earth care what Walker thinks? He legit destroyed his state, just ran it into the god damn ground.


He was the conservative favorite coming into the election. Ted Cruz was just the Senator alternative to the Gov. preference back when everyone was sure a Gov. would win.


He'd never stand a chance though. All anyone would ever have to do is ask why his state is in the shitter when Minnesota is killing it? Both states were in similar starting blocks when Walker and Dayton took office. He's managed to send his state directly into the dumpster while MN is thriving. Neighboring states, similar in many respects, same starting point, it's a case study in what works and what doesn't.

Anyone on the fence just looks at that and the decision is made, it's black and white. This guy is an idiot and makes awful decisions, I'll vote for the other person. He would have gotten totally smoked.
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23797 Posts
March 29 2016 21:14 GMT
#69853
On March 30 2016 06:04 OuchyDathurts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2016 05:51 GreenHorizons wrote:
On March 30 2016 05:47 OuchyDathurts wrote:
Why would anyone on earth care what Walker thinks? He legit destroyed his state, just ran it into the god damn ground.


He was the conservative favorite coming into the election. Ted Cruz was just the Senator alternative to the Gov. preference back when everyone was sure a Gov. would win.


He'd never stand a chance though. All anyone would ever have to do is ask why his state is in the shitter when Minnesota is killing it? Both states were in similar starting blocks when Walker and Dayton took office. He's managed to send his state directly into the dumpster while MN is thriving. Neighboring states, similar in many respects, same starting point, it's a case study in what works and what doesn't.

Anyone on the fence just looks at that and the decision is made, it's black and white. This guy is an idiot and makes awful decisions, I'll vote for the other person. He would have gotten totally smoked.


Yup. Trump was basically taking credit for doing just that to his campaign,essentially killing it in it's crib. In the process he ran through a lot of that. In the process he gave credit to the government for collecting "perfect statistics", that's the part that got a laugh out of me.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-29 21:18:23
March 29 2016 21:16 GMT
#69854
On March 30 2016 05:52 IgnE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2016 05:37 corumjhaelen wrote:
Not latin -> latin translation. It's historically the thing that was used to find the best students in France, it's even a proverb now.
Amazing times. I suggest reading Vallès among others if you want to have some fun.
Edit : Proust's description of litterature's old exam subject is pretty great too. "Sophocles writes a letter from Hell to Racine about the reception of Athalie. Imagine..." Serious stuff.


Learning Latin taught me a lot about English grammar and syntax that can be useful for linguistics which is related to mathematics.

Latin can have use (in linguistics as you say, greek is a blessing for economyn as Aristotle is rather important), but it is mostly used as a way to distinguish oneself. La barrière et le niveau (the barrier and the standard) is what matters in french education, it's all about the distinction.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 29 2016 22:09 GMT
#69855
WASHINGTON — Senate Republicans’ reasoning for not considering President Barack Obama’s nominee to the Supreme Court holds “no basis” in fact, according to Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine).

Arguing that the next president should nominate the next Supreme Court justice, Republican leaders have said they will not meet with nominee Merrick Garland, the chief judge of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit, let alone hold hearings or a vote on his appointment.

Collins broke with her party and immediately said she would meet with Garland after Obama nominated him to replace the late Justice Antonin Scalia. She’s continued to be vocal about her split in the weeks since, telling Maine’s Newsradio WGAN on Tuesday that Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) isn’t pleased with her dissent.

“The leader’s not real happy with me,” Collins said, adding that she even reread the Constitution to make sure she was remembering it correctly.

“I knew there was no limit on when during a president’s term he appoints nominees to the court, but I wanted to make sure I really understood the exact wording,” she said.

While Collins says she understands why a majority of her colleagues are opposed to holding hearings to consider Garland, she disagrees with their logic.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-29 22:42:21
March 29 2016 22:41 GMT
#69856
Here's something that GH might enjoy. This is a benchmark path to the nomination for Sanders (sans super delegates) in response to this:





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It got the 538 nod:



Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
LemOn
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United Kingdom8629 Posts
March 29 2016 23:13 GMT
#69857
Wait, so when a lot of media shows almost all supers on Hillary's side in charts like it's a given - that's just bs manipulation?
Much is the father figure that I miss in my life. Go Daddy! DoC.LemOn, LemOn[5thF]
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18250 Posts
March 29 2016 23:22 GMT
#69858
On March 30 2016 08:13 LemOn wrote:
Wait, so when a lot of media shows almost all supers on Hillary's side in charts like it's a given - that's just bs manipulation?

No. That's the superdelegates that have said they will vote for Hillary. But given that they are not beholden to voters, they *could* switch their support. It's just that they, as of right now, publicly support Hillary.

Regarding the chart: yeah, that looks about right.

Win NY by 54%, NJ by 56% and CA and PA by 58%. Tall order.
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
March 29 2016 23:23 GMT
#69859
On March 30 2016 08:13 LemOn wrote:
Wait, so when a lot of media shows almost all supers on Hillary's side in charts like it's a given - that's just bs manipulation?


No, most have promised to vote for Clinton rather than Sanders. They are allowed to change their minds, but something would need to happen for that to occur. Even in 2008, very few super delegates actually switched to Obama. On the other hand, tracking such endorsements is more difficult than counting votes, so there's some inherent imprecision and ambiguity involved.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
March 29 2016 23:24 GMT
#69860
On March 30 2016 08:13 LemOn wrote:
Wait, so when a lot of media shows almost all supers on Hillary's side in charts like it's a given - that's just bs manipulation?

Many have already endorsed her, but it doesn't matter until the convention because they can change their minds, and usually vote with the total popular vote and delegate counts.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
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