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Its like every shitty person in the US is coming out of the dark hole we left them in to praise Immortan Trump.
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On March 02 2016 12:47 FiWiFaKi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 12:46 Seuss wrote:
Minnesota is looking like it'll go to Rubio, though Cruz could still beat him. Trump almost certainly placing third there.
Still not a good night for Rubio, especially if he stays below the 20% threshold in some of these states. Cruz can't beat him. 9% with 53% counted doesn't happen. Trump has solid percentages everywhere though, so even though he didn't win everything, this plays super nicely for him.
It does happen in some situations, like 2012 Miami called for Obama even though he was behind 45-55 or something at 70% counted, because nearly all votes left to be counted were from dade county which leans heavily dem.
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i called them superfriends on accident, oops. but hillary is coming out of this with like 200 more delegates than bernie though and i wouldnt be surprised if she rolled out a bunch of superdelegate and other endorsements in the next couple of days.
that's actually messed up you say those states dont matter. like i said earlier, downballot and local races. millions of progressive and liberal voters voting against their own interests there ofc.
unsurprisingly, i hear no whining about caucuses today.
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On March 02 2016 13:04 FiWiFaKi wrote:
MA gap closed from 3.5% to 2.4% from 65% reporting to 80% reporting, so it'll definitely be very close, probably within a percentage point.
0% from Amherst and Worcester (not sure which way Worcester will go, but I presume Bernie?)
2.94% from Cambridge
Not sure how many votes are represented in those.
On March 02 2016 13:06 ticklishmusic wrote:
i called them superfriends on accident, oops. but hillary is coming out of this with like 200 more delegates than bernie though and i wouldnt be surprised if she rolled out a bunch of superdelegate and other endorsements in the next couple of days.
that's actually messed up you say those states dont matter. like i said earlier, downballot and local races.
unsurprisingly, i hear no whining about caucuses today.
1) Both caucuses are happening amidst a bunch of other political chaos with all the other states. Of course there's bias and there likely will be less complaining, but that doesn't mean everyone had a positive caucus experience. We just may not hear about it.
2) Don't worry, caucuses are still bullshit and need to go away.
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On March 02 2016 13:03 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 12:59 Djzapz wrote:
It's very surprising to me what the BLM movement did to Sanders... He was obviously their best hope.
Now I'm very worried that the predictions are correct and the young people won't go out and vote for the "lesser evil" that is Hillary Clinton. I know I myself wouldn't want to vote for that woman. He is a socialist, independent that is pro gun from Vermont? He has done very little that any other run of the mill Democrat. The man has negative relationship with black voters in the south and it showed.
None of those characteristics strike me as particularly opposed to the ideals of black people. As for the "negative relationship with black voters in the south", I have no idea where that stems from other than the BLM movement winging up some bullshit about how he doesn't care about race issues even though he discusses them in economic terms.
Like what part of socialism is desirable to white people and not for black people. A vast majority of them, of lower socioeconomic status, actually benefit massively from social programs.
Whatever feelings they may have had, the cause of black people stand to advance significantly faster under Sanders than under Clinton.
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NBC calling Massachusetts for Hillary
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On March 02 2016 13:06 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 13:04 FiWiFaKi wrote:
MA gap closed from 3.5% to 2.4% from 65% reporting to 80% reporting, so it'll definitely be very close, probably within a percentage point. 0% from Amherst and Worcester (not sure which way Worcester will go, but I presume Bernie?)
Nope.
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Rubio not breaking 20% in TX pretty much buries him.
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On March 02 2016 13:12 kwizach wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 13:06 jcarlsoniv wrote:On March 02 2016 13:04 FiWiFaKi wrote:
MA gap closed from 3.5% to 2.4% from 65% reporting to 80% reporting, so it'll definitely be very close, probably within a percentage point. 0% from Amherst and Worcester (not sure which way Worcester will go, but I presume Bernie?) Nope. https://twitter.com/WCVB/status/704879010355003392
Thanks. I've only been to Worcester a couple times :3
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On March 02 2016 12:54 Ghanburighan wrote:Nate Silver saying the same thing about Sanders/Clinton that I talked about before: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/86vUulu.png)
Ill be honest this sounds a LOT like how Clinton lost in 2008 to Obama.
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On March 02 2016 13:05 Plansix wrote:Its like every shitty person in the US is coming out of the dark hole we left them in to praise Immortan Trump.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend?
On March 02 2016 13:07 Djzapz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 13:03 Plansix wrote:On March 02 2016 12:59 Djzapz wrote:
It's very surprising to me what the BLM movement did to Sanders... He was obviously their best hope.
Now I'm very worried that the predictions are correct and the young people won't go out and vote for the "lesser evil" that is Hillary Clinton. I know I myself wouldn't want to vote for that woman. He is a socialist, independent that is pro gun from Vermont? He has done very little that any other run of the mill Democrat. The man has negative relationship with black voters in the south and it showed. None of those characteristics strike me as particularly opposed to the ideals of black people. As for the "negative relationship with black voters in the south", I have no idea where that stems from other than the BLM movement winging up some bullshit about how he doesn't care about race issues even though he discusses them in economic terms. Like what part of socialism is desirable to white people and not for black people. A vast majority of them, of lower socioeconomic status, actually benefit massively from social programs. Whatever feelings they may have had, the cause of black people stand to advance significantly faster under Sanders than under Clinton.
Majority of older black voting population are actually very socially conservative. Bernie's liberal social values might be what is alienating him, also Hillary's got that name recognition when it comes with black voters, especially since she was in Obama's cabinet for so long.
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People think too far into this firewall thing. Bernie is from Vermont while Hillary benefits significantly from Bill's popularity in the south. Bernie just didn't have enough time to make up 50+ points in Iowa, NH, NV, and all the Southern states with little name recognition/familiarity. It sucks, because with enough time, I think Hillary's crime bill stuff would've actually made a dent in the "firewall"
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On March 02 2016 13:07 Djzapz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 13:03 Plansix wrote:On March 02 2016 12:59 Djzapz wrote:
It's very surprising to me what the BLM movement did to Sanders... He was obviously their best hope.
Now I'm very worried that the predictions are correct and the young people won't go out and vote for the "lesser evil" that is Hillary Clinton. I know I myself wouldn't want to vote for that woman. He is a socialist, independent that is pro gun from Vermont? He has done very little that any other run of the mill Democrat. The man has negative relationship with black voters in the south and it showed. None of those characteristics strike me as particularly opposed to the ideals of black people. As for the "negative relationship with black voters in the south", I have no idea where that stems from other than the BLM movement winging up some bullshit about how he doesn't care about race issues even though he discusses them in economic terms. Like what part of socialism is desirable to white people and not for black people. A vast majority of them, of lower socioeconomic status, actually benefit massively from social programs. Whatever feelings they may have had, the cause of black people stand to advance significantly faster under Sanders than under Clinton.
He has no relationship with Southern black voters. They don't know him. And the lofty accomplishment of "being not racist' is not very compelling for most black voters. As I said previous, one of my black buddies refers to it as "the baseline for not hating someone". Clinton has a history with that section of the country and with black voters in that area.
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On March 02 2016 13:06 ticklishmusic wrote:
i called them superfriends on accident, oops. but hillary is coming out of this with like 200 more delegates than bernie though and i wouldnt be surprised if she rolled out a bunch of superdelegate and other endorsements in the next couple of days.
that's actually messed up you say those states dont matter. like i said earlier, downballot and local races. millions of progressive and liberal voters voting against their own interests there ofc.
unsurprisingly, i hear no whining about caucuses today.
Caucuses are still shit and people waited in 3+ block long lines, but enough people stuck around. They are still terrible and should be removed from politics even when Bernie wins. I also said back then that my opinion wouldn't change when Sanders started winning them.
I don't mean that they don't matter, I mean that it won't impact the general. She might mention the endorsements, but you are extremely unlikely to hear anyone from Hillary's campaign say "super delegates" as a reason for Bernie to get out. It plays horribly that she racked up more delegates without any votes than she did by getting votes.
Not to mention many of them are voting against their state at the moment and that will continue. Her super delegate argument only strengthens Bernie's narrative that she is the choice of the establishment (which of course Trump would throw at her too and be right about).
On March 02 2016 13:15 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 13:07 Djzapz wrote:On March 02 2016 13:03 Plansix wrote:On March 02 2016 12:59 Djzapz wrote:
It's very surprising to me what the BLM movement did to Sanders... He was obviously their best hope.
Now I'm very worried that the predictions are correct and the young people won't go out and vote for the "lesser evil" that is Hillary Clinton. I know I myself wouldn't want to vote for that woman. He is a socialist, independent that is pro gun from Vermont? He has done very little that any other run of the mill Democrat. The man has negative relationship with black voters in the south and it showed. None of those characteristics strike me as particularly opposed to the ideals of black people. As for the "negative relationship with black voters in the south", I have no idea where that stems from other than the BLM movement winging up some bullshit about how he doesn't care about race issues even though he discusses them in economic terms. Like what part of socialism is desirable to white people and not for black people. A vast majority of them, of lower socioeconomic status, actually benefit massively from social programs. Whatever feelings they may have had, the cause of black people stand to advance significantly faster under Sanders than under Clinton. He has no relationship with Southern black voters. They don't know him. And the lofty accomplishment of "being not racist' is not very compelling for most black voters. As I said previous, one of my black buddies refers to it as "the baseline for not hating someone". Clinton has a history with that section of the country and with black voters in that area.
That sounds better. It was an example of her regional influence and long relationship with folks down there. For instance in Illinois she'd be lucky to even win black voters let alone keep her margin.
It has little to do with BLM and those incidents though Bernie getting the worst out of NN when Hillary didn't even bother to show up was not helpful.
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On March 02 2016 13:15 wei2coolman wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 13:05 Plansix wrote:Its like every shitty person in the US is coming out of the dark hole we left them in to praise Immortan Trump. The enemy of my enemy is my friend?
I am from MA and we have a natural hatred for Romney. I am all about what he is pitching at Trump. Any other republicans want to jump the fence for just this one election, we got room in the anti bigot bus.
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On March 02 2016 13:15 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 13:07 Djzapz wrote:On March 02 2016 13:03 Plansix wrote:On March 02 2016 12:59 Djzapz wrote:
It's very surprising to me what the BLM movement did to Sanders... He was obviously their best hope.
Now I'm very worried that the predictions are correct and the young people won't go out and vote for the "lesser evil" that is Hillary Clinton. I know I myself wouldn't want to vote for that woman. He is a socialist, independent that is pro gun from Vermont? He has done very little that any other run of the mill Democrat. The man has negative relationship with black voters in the south and it showed. None of those characteristics strike me as particularly opposed to the ideals of black people. As for the "negative relationship with black voters in the south", I have no idea where that stems from other than the BLM movement winging up some bullshit about how he doesn't care about race issues even though he discusses them in economic terms. Like what part of socialism is desirable to white people and not for black people. A vast majority of them, of lower socioeconomic status, actually benefit massively from social programs. Whatever feelings they may have had, the cause of black people stand to advance significantly faster under Sanders than under Clinton. He has no relationship with Southern black voters. They don't know him. And the lofty accomplishment of "being not racist' is not very compelling for most black voters. As I said previous, one of my black buddies refers to it as "the baseline for not hating someone". Clinton has a history with that section of the country and with black voters in that area.
Oh, I thought that by "negative relationship" you meant somehow they have different views.
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On March 02 2016 13:17 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 13:15 wei2coolman wrote:On March 02 2016 13:05 Plansix wrote:Its like every shitty person in the US is coming out of the dark hole we left them in to praise Immortan Trump. The enemy of my enemy is my friend? I am from MA and we have a natural hatred for Romney. I am all about what he is pitching at Trump. Any other republicans want to jump the fence for just this one election, we got room in the anti bigot bus.
I'm still not convinced Trump supporters are totally on the "bigot" bus.
While I do think his positions are prone to alignment for those socially misaligned, I do think his strong political image and cross left/right political lines on topics make him a very alluring candidate for many.
On March 02 2016 13:20 Djzapz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2016 13:15 Plansix wrote:On March 02 2016 13:07 Djzapz wrote:On March 02 2016 13:03 Plansix wrote:On March 02 2016 12:59 Djzapz wrote:
It's very surprising to me what the BLM movement did to Sanders... He was obviously their best hope.
Now I'm very worried that the predictions are correct and the young people won't go out and vote for the "lesser evil" that is Hillary Clinton. I know I myself wouldn't want to vote for that woman. He is a socialist, independent that is pro gun from Vermont? He has done very little that any other run of the mill Democrat. The man has negative relationship with black voters in the south and it showed. None of those characteristics strike me as particularly opposed to the ideals of black people. As for the "negative relationship with black voters in the south", I have no idea where that stems from other than the BLM movement winging up some bullshit about how he doesn't care about race issues even though he discusses them in economic terms. Like what part of socialism is desirable to white people and not for black people. A vast majority of them, of lower socioeconomic status, actually benefit massively from social programs. Whatever feelings they may have had, the cause of black people stand to advance significantly faster under Sanders than under Clinton. He has no relationship with Southern black voters. They don't know him. And the lofty accomplishment of "being not racist' is not very compelling for most black voters. As I said previous, one of my black buddies refers to it as "the baseline for not hating someone". Clinton has a history with that section of the country and with black voters in that area. Oh, I thought that by "negative relationship" you meant somehow they have different views.
Mentioned it earlier, but older voting population of the black community tends to be more religious and more socially conservative.
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lol as if the cluster couldn't get worse Rubio wins Minnesota lol
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fucking cruz is a lunatic
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On March 02 2016 13:22 oneofthem wrote:
fucking cruz is a lunatic
I'm actually more scared of Cruz than Trump. Trump feels like a meme, Cruz looks serious.
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