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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24053 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-02 03:36:47
March 02 2016 03:36 GMT
#62121
On March 02 2016 12:29 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 12:27 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:

Everything is Obama. The GOP did this to themselves by blaming literally everything on him. They would blame 9/11 on him if they could.


~30% of the republican party in Louisiana blame Obama for Katrina, I'm actually surprised Bush didn't float it. Guess because he was supposed to be sane one. (44% was unsure)
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
March 02 2016 03:36 GMT
#62122
Well, I'm extremely disappointed. Get your shit together bros.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
ErectedZenith
Profile Joined January 2016
325 Posts
March 02 2016 03:37 GMT
#62123
On March 02 2016 12:36 Djzapz wrote:
Well, I'm extremely disappointed. Get your shit together bros.


Not enough bros though.
CannonsNCarriers
Profile Joined April 2010
United States638 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-02 03:38:37
March 02 2016 03:37 GMT
#62124
The sweet sweet tears of the Rubio spinsters fills me with glee. I can't get enough of him getting creamed. So many establishment Republican drones watching their dreams getting smashed.

And he lost in the most distasteful, shameful way too. Rubio went out with penis and pee jokes. No honor. No dignity. Pure desperation plays on the pettiest of crap. I can't wait for him to lose his senate seat to something with a pulse and a (D).
Dun tuch my cheezbrgr
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
March 02 2016 03:38 GMT
#62125
On March 02 2016 12:37 ErectedZenith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 12:36 Djzapz wrote:
Well, I'm extremely disappointed. Get your shit together bros.


Not enough bros though.

Gonna need to recruit some bros if you bros can't bro out hard enough take out the trash.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Warfie
Profile Joined February 2009
Norway2846 Posts
March 02 2016 03:38 GMT
#62126
anyone watching CNN? I feel like all Van Jones ever wants to talk about is how this and that is racist and so on. I mean it's an important issue but this guy just goes on and on about what I as a european feel is insignificant stuff..
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
March 02 2016 03:39 GMT
#62127
On March 02 2016 12:36 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 12:29 Plansix wrote:
On March 02 2016 12:27 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/StevenTDennis/status/704869656679620608

Everything is Obama. The GOP did this to themselves by blaming literally everything on him. They would blame 9/11 on him if they could.


~30% of the republican party in Louisiana blame Obama for Katrina, I'm actually surprised Bush didn't float it. Guess because he was supposed to be sane one. (44% was unsure)


Curiously (due to Huey P Long) a majority of people in Louisiana are registered Democrats. Wonder what the numbers are around Katrina for the state overall.
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Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4999 Posts
March 02 2016 03:40 GMT
#62128
On March 02 2016 12:38 Warfie wrote:
anyone watching CNN? I feel like all Van Jones ever wants to talk about is how this and that is racist and so on. I mean it's an important issue but this guy just goes on and on about what I as a european feel is insignificant stuff..


That's because it's Van Jones.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
zf
Profile Joined April 2011
231 Posts
March 02 2016 03:40 GMT
#62129
On March 02 2016 12:37 CannonsNCarriers wrote:
The sweet sweet tears of the Rubio spinsters fills me with glee. I can't get enough of him getting creamed. So many establishment Republican drones watching their dreams getting smashed.

Someone else who understands that elections are about schadenfreude!
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 02 2016 03:41 GMT
#62130
On March 02 2016 12:38 Warfie wrote:
anyone watching CNN? I feel like all Van Jones ever wants to talk about is how this and that is racist and so on. I mean it's an important issue but this guy just goes on and on about what I as a european feel is insignificant stuff..

Someone yelling "Die n*****" tried to assassinate a black woman running for sheriff today. Another guy got stabbed in the gut by white supremacists this weekend. This is not normal and its only going to get worse.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-02 03:44:38
March 02 2016 03:42 GMT
#62131
On March 02 2016 12:33 oBlade wrote:
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On March 02 2016 11:50 Jibba wrote:
On March 02 2016 11:45 oBlade wrote:
On March 02 2016 11:45 Jibba wrote:
I wonder if Cruz is introspective enough to realize he's reaping what he sowed. This began with him.

How do you figure that?

This is the evolution of the Tea Party. They - McCain, Romney, McConnell - kowtowed for easy social conservative votes and lost their party.

Trump figured out how to appeal to the same emotions, better than Cruz.

I don't agree with this analysis, with McCain being one of the roots of the Tea Party. I don't personally know that the Tea Party is a faction so much as a label people adopt just to stir the pot and get attention. The point is not supposed to be social issues, by the way, but it gets confusing because people like Michelle Bachmann, part of the religious right, are also some of the people who stand out from the Tea Party.

Trump has broad appeal. That doesn't mean he's not polarizing. But he's a public figure (a la Schwarzenegger), he's a self-identified conservative (a la Reagan), and he's a billionaire (Perot). It's not just Tea Partying. I might be wrong, but I don't see it.

Palin was one of the roots of the Tea Party, not McCain. But he's the one that gave her a microphone.

The Tea Party was a blanket populist movement that railed against the federal government and "the man". Its foundation was emotions more than issues, but it was easiest to tap into that through social conservatism. This also gave rise to the immense obstructionism we have now - 'compromise' became a bad word as it is to Trump. It promoted the political outsider (which Cruz was when he used it to win his election, and why he pissed off the establishment).

Trump's broad appeal is with angry people, whose angered was stirred by the Tea Party. This may have been inevitable, but to me this is simply the next step of angry populism (which is obviously not new, but that was the new form of it.)
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
March 02 2016 03:42 GMT
#62132
Sanders picking up VT, OK, CO, MN is not bad actually if results hold. No way he was gonna ever win the south. Dream night if he were to win MA, but it seems a little too late for that.

Clinton 7:5 Sanders = ideal
Clinton 8:4 Sanders = decent

anything worse is really bad for his campaign. I will be quite interested to see how close other states are, considering much of her "firewall" has already voted.
watch the wall collide with my fist, mostly over problems that i know i should fix
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
March 02 2016 03:43 GMT
#62133
it sucks how people start thinking that sort of shitty behavior is somehow [more] acceptable and decide to go ahead with it because of trump's rhetoric.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 02 2016 03:45 GMT
#62134
On March 02 2016 12:43 ticklishmusic wrote:
it sucks how people start thinking that sort of shitty behavior is somehow [more] acceptable and decide to go ahead with it because of trump's rhetoric.

Its weird, its almost like politicians influence the actions of citizens and they should be careful about what they say.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24053 Posts
March 02 2016 03:45 GMT
#62135
On March 02 2016 12:43 ticklishmusic wrote:
it sucks how people start thinking that sort of shitty behavior is somehow [more] acceptable and decide to go ahead with it because of trump's rhetoric.


It only works because, as is being pointed out, the Republican party denied or diminished it's existence and wrote the members of their party using the rhetoric off as just a 'fringe', and rationalized so much garbage, Trump's birther vendetta for example.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 02 2016 03:45 GMT
#62136
Should note that while Christie is in Florida 6 newspapers in his state of New Jersey are saying he should resign for endorsing Trump.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
CannonsNCarriers
Profile Joined April 2010
United States638 Posts
March 02 2016 03:46 GMT
#62137
On March 02 2016 12:43 ticklishmusic wrote:
it sucks how people start thinking that sort of shitty behavior is somehow [more] acceptable and decide to go ahead with it because of trump's rhetoric.


Like pathetic young Rubes? He would say anything, anything his expensive handlers that richer men bought for him told him to say. At the last second they said pee and penis jokes Rubes. And Rubes, like the puppet he is, quickly rattled off the jokes his handlers wrote for him.
Dun tuch my cheezbrgr
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
March 02 2016 03:46 GMT
#62138
Minnesota is looking like it'll go to Rubio, though Cruz could still beat him. Trump almost certainly placing third there.

Still not a good night for Rubio, especially if he stays below the 20% threshold in some of these states.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
March 02 2016 03:46 GMT
#62139
hopefully it doesnt snowball...

i heard a great piece about how school shootings are becoming more common because of a similar reason
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Warfie
Profile Joined February 2009
Norway2846 Posts
March 02 2016 03:47 GMT
#62140
On March 02 2016 12:41 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 12:38 Warfie wrote:
anyone watching CNN? I feel like all Van Jones ever wants to talk about is how this and that is racist and so on. I mean it's an important issue but this guy just goes on and on about what I as a european feel is insignificant stuff..

Someone yelling "Die n*****" tried to assassinate a black woman running for sheriff today. Another guy got stabbed in the gut by white supremacists this weekend. This is not normal and its only going to get worse.

Hm yes. I just sometimes get the impression he/they are talking about and taking excessive 'offense' at random shit when that energy would be better extended elsewhere, on more serious cases
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