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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 02 2016 03:14 GMT
#62101


"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23930 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-02 03:21:08
March 02 2016 03:16 GMT
#62102
On March 02 2016 12:06 ticklishmusic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 12:01 GreenHorizons wrote:
On March 02 2016 11:54 ticklishmusic wrote:
On March 02 2016 11:50 GreenHorizons wrote:
On March 02 2016 11:46 ticklishmusic wrote:
Trump is valuing his brand at a few billion, I would laugh my ass off if Deloitte or whatever accountant he uses calls him out and makes him reduce the value of the intangible asset because of the damage it took from the shit he's said during this election.


He hasn't damaged the brand he's just changed who it appeals too. It's not like he had universal appeal to start with. Now he's got die hard supporters he's never had.

Might of made things a nightmare for his middle managers at his properties though since most of the people who do the shit no one wants to for what he offers are the people he offended most. But that's the beauty of leveraging desperate people.

Gawd Chris Christies face was priceless during the planned parenthood comments. I hope someone makes that a gif


Surveys of high net worth individuals are showing that a lot of them are viewing the Trump brand with less favor. He's valuing it a 3.3B right now, which is wildly inflated in the first place.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/01/donald-trump-2016-brand-business-213515


As a result of which he'll hide a bunch of shitty performing properties in a goodwill write-off and come out smelling like roses. This isn't his first rodeo brand wise.


Brand is an intangible asset which goes on the balance sheet (one of the 4 financial statements). Goodwill only appears in the case of an acquisition. You can estimate both values using various methodologies, but Trump doesn't really have any goodwill here. Property is entirely separate item-- it's a tangible asset which also goes on the balance sheet, and its subject to a depreciation schedule. You can adjust the depreciation schedule on various factors. Performance would be measured by revenue and income. Those go on the income statement, which is a different financial statement.


Gotcha, did you miss the part on deals rolling his way? He's going to have ample opportunity to do whatever financial tricks it takes to come out on top. Not that we would ever know anyway. Though if the company makes some acquisitions shortly after the race, I think we'll have a pretty good clue why.
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Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4947 Posts
March 02 2016 03:18 GMT
#62103
I hate these speeches. From everyone.
"But, as the conservative understands it, modification of the rules should always reflect, and never impose, a change in the activities and beliefs of those who are subject to them, and should never on any occasion be so great as to destroy the ensemble."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 02 2016 03:18 GMT
#62104
Trump takes Arkansas.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 02 2016 03:19 GMT
#62105
Cruz quoting FDR, and JFK rofl
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
March 02 2016 03:21 GMT
#62106
On March 02 2016 12:16 GreenHorizons wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 12:06 ticklishmusic wrote:
On March 02 2016 12:01 GreenHorizons wrote:
On March 02 2016 11:54 ticklishmusic wrote:
On March 02 2016 11:50 GreenHorizons wrote:
On March 02 2016 11:46 ticklishmusic wrote:
Trump is valuing his brand at a few billion, I would laugh my ass off if Deloitte or whatever accountant he uses calls him out and makes him reduce the value of the intangible asset because of the damage it took from the shit he's said during this election.


He hasn't damaged the brand he's just changed who it appeals too. It's not like he had universal appeal to start with. Now he's got die hard supporters he's never had.

Might of made things a nightmare for his middle managers at his properties though since most of the people who do the shit no one wants to for what he offers are the people he offended most. But that's the beauty of leveraging desperate people.

Gawd Chris Christies face was priceless during the planned parenthood comments. I hope someone makes that a gif


Surveys of high net worth individuals are showing that a lot of them are viewing the Trump brand with less favor. He's valuing it a 3.3B right now, which is wildly inflated in the first place.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/01/donald-trump-2016-brand-business-213515


As a result of which he'll hide a bunch of shitty performing properties in a goodwill write-off and come out smelling like roses. This isn't his first rodeo brand wise.


Brand is an intangible asset which goes on the balance sheet (one of the 4 financial statements). Goodwill only appears in the case of an acquisition. You can estimate both values using various methodologies, but Trump doesn't really have any goodwill here. Property is entirely separate item-- it's a tangible asset which also goes on the balance sheet, and its subject to a depreciation schedule. You can adjust the depreciation schedule on various factors. Performance would be measured by revenue and income. Those go on the income statement, which is a different financial statement.


Gotcha, did you miss the part on deals rolling his way? He's going to have ample opportunity to do whatever financial tricks it takes to come out on top. My guess would be the acquisition of some company (more likely several) to get access to the part I was referencing.

But the larger point is that he's going to do just fine. Oh maybe he just acquires some budget hotel line and re-brands it like Gap and Old Navy or some crap like that.

Not going to pretend I know the ins and outs of precisely how he's going to do it but his company and brand are going to be fine no matter how this all turns out unless everyone finds out he's broke.


If he wins he can milk the presidency in an unprecedented manner, but I very much doubt he wins.

In the loss scenario: He's not going to go broke by any means, but to say the least the things he's been saying are more than likely gonna put a dent in sales, sponsorships, partnership and other revenue generating activities. I mean, yes, Trump does seem to be Teflon coated but a CEO/ other public face of a company doesn't go out and say things that damage their company's image without repercussions.

If you end up taking a goodwill impairment it basically means you overpaid for the company.
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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12451 Posts
March 02 2016 03:22 GMT
#62107
They haven't updated Minnesota on my main page but it looks like Bernie is winning that easily so far if I look up the counties
No will to live, no wish to die
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-02 03:23:54
March 02 2016 03:23 GMT
#62108
So Ted Cruz just said he would order the Justice Department to target one of his political enemies...
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
March 02 2016 03:24 GMT
#62109
On March 02 2016 12:22 Nebuchad wrote:
They haven't updated Minnesota on my main page but it looks like Bernie is winning that easily so far if I look up the counties

http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=span-abc-region&region=span-abc-region&WT.nav=span-abc-region
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
March 02 2016 03:26 GMT
#62110
On March 02 2016 12:24 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 12:22 Nebuchad wrote:
They haven't updated Minnesota on my main page but it looks like Bernie is winning that easily so far if I look up the counties

http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=span-abc-region&region=span-abc-region&WT.nav=span-abc-region


Bernie is winning if you look at the individual polls, what you linked at the time of this post only has 1%.
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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12451 Posts
March 02 2016 03:26 GMT
#62111
On March 02 2016 12:24 Mohdoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 12:22 Nebuchad wrote:
They haven't updated Minnesota on my main page but it looks like Bernie is winning that easily so far if I look up the counties

http://www.nytimes.com/elections/results?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=span-abc-region&region=span-abc-region&WT.nav=span-abc-region


That's where I am. It just updated, it was stuck at 57-42 hillary for ages.
No will to live, no wish to die
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 02 2016 03:27 GMT
#62112
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 02 2016 03:27 GMT
#62113
On March 02 2016 12:23 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So Ted Cruz just said he would order the Justice Department to target one of his political enemies...

I believe him. I bet he would do exactly that. This is the current model of the GOP. Use government powers to destroy your enemies, attempt to remove them from government.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 02 2016 03:29 GMT
#62114
On March 02 2016 12:27 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/StevenTDennis/status/704869656679620608

Everything is Obama. The GOP did this to themselves by blaming literally everything on him. They would blame 9/11 on him if they could.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
March 02 2016 03:30 GMT
#62115
I believe Fox News just called Massachusetts for Clinton!
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -- Stephen Colbert
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-02 03:31:51
March 02 2016 03:31 GMT
#62116
On March 02 2016 12:27 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/StevenTDennis/status/704869656679620608


I'm pretty sure a plurality of Republicans associate those people with Obama at this point
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
March 02 2016 03:33 GMT
#62117
On March 02 2016 12:30 kwizach wrote:
I believe Fox News just called Massachusetts for Clinton!


Interesting with 0% reported from Amherst, which would hold a heavy Sanders demographic. It's gonna be close as shit.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 02 2016 03:33 GMT
#62118
On March 02 2016 12:31 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 12:27 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
https://twitter.com/StevenTDennis/status/704869656679620608


I'm pretty sure a plurality of Republicans associate those people with Obama at this point

Plenty of people blame the bail out on Obama, even though it was all paid back, profitable and a pretty big success. But never let facts get in the way of some good political dog piling.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6101 Posts
March 02 2016 03:33 GMT
#62119
On March 02 2016 11:50 Jibba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 11:45 oBlade wrote:
On March 02 2016 11:45 Jibba wrote:
I wonder if Cruz is introspective enough to realize he's reaping what he sowed. This began with him.

How do you figure that?

This is the evolution of the Tea Party. They - McCain, Romney, McConnell - kowtowed for easy social conservative votes and lost their party.

Trump figured out how to appeal to the same emotions, better than Cruz.

I don't agree with this analysis, with McCain being one of the roots of the Tea Party. I don't personally know that the Tea Party is a faction so much as a label people adopt just to stir the pot and get attention. The point is not supposed to be social issues, by the way, but it gets confusing because people like Michelle Bachmann, part of the religious right, are also some of the people who stand out from the Tea Party.

Trump has broad appeal. That doesn't mean he's not polarizing. But he's a public figure (a la Schwarzenegger), he's a self-identified conservative (a la Reagan), and he's a billionaire (Perot). It's not just Tea Partying. I might be wrong, but I don't see it.

On March 02 2016 12:13 Seuss wrote:
I'm watching CBS and Rubio sounds like he's in severe denial.

The Trump phenomenon was telling the Republicans something very early on, and they had time to tailor a response, and to adapt, but they had the same delusion that the MSM had, which is that it couldn't be real.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 02 2016 03:34 GMT
#62120
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
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