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GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
March 01 2016 12:28 GMT
#61641
so today is super tuesday? when will results start coming in?
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46062 Posts
March 01 2016 12:30 GMT
#61642
Today is the day that Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump seal the deal on their respective primaries, unfortunately. Super Tuesday time.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46062 Posts
March 01 2016 12:31 GMT
#61643
On March 01 2016 21:28 GoTuNk! wrote:
so today is super tuesday? when will results start coming in?


I found this via Google:

Here's the complete schedule of state, with opening and closing times (EST) for each:

Alabama, 8 a.m. and 8 p.m.
Alaska, 11 a.m. and midnight
Arkansas, 8:30 a.m. and 8:30 p.m.
Colorado, caucuses begin at 9 p.m.
Georgia, 7 a.m. and 7 p.m.
Massachusetts, 7 a.m. and 8 p.m.
Minnesota, caucuses begin at 8 p.m.
Oklahoma, 8 a.m. and 8 p.m.
Tennessee, 8 a.m. and 8 p.m.
Texas, 8 a.m. and 8 p.m. or 9 p.m.
Vermont, as early as 5 a.m. to 7 p.m.
Virginia, 6 a.m. to 7 p.m.
Wyoming, various times for caucuses
American Samoa, caucuses begin at 2 p.m.


~ http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/02/when_will_super_tuesday_polls_open_close_when_are.html
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
March 01 2016 13:16 GMT
#61644
samoa has a caucus but no electoral votes?
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
March 01 2016 13:37 GMT
#61645
On March 01 2016 22:16 oneofthem wrote:
samoa has a caucus but no electoral votes?


They have 6, I believe
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 01 2016 13:46 GMT
#61646
On March 01 2016 21:20 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2016 21:07 Plansix wrote:
That is the Boston Herald, I would take that with a grain of salt. That paper has been successfully sued a bunch of times for confusing fiction with fact just to sell papers.

Its just quoting the Secretary of State William Galvin, according to the article he is the state’s top elections official. So its a high ranking Democrat.

its also in this article http://www.wbur.org/2016/02/29/presidential-candidates-hit-mass-a-day-ahead-of-super-tuesday-primary
and this one https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2016/02/29/secretary-state-sees-huge-voter-turnout-tuesday/TPz4CAjfD2Je5Dm7XAfIAJ/story.html

All right, it seems on the mark. I have a strong natural distrust of the Herald due to is being a terrible rag.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
March 01 2016 14:30 GMT
#61647
back when the world was young

We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
March 01 2016 15:00 GMT
#61648
On March 01 2016 20:58 zeo wrote:
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/us_politics/2016/02/amid_trump_surge_nearly_20000_mass_voters_quit_democratic_party#join-conversation

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Nearly 20,000 Bay State Democrats have fled the party this winter, with thousands doing so to join the Republican ranks, according to the state’s top elections official.

Secretary of State William Galvin said more than 16,300 Democrats have shed their party affiliation and become independent voters since Jan. 1, while nearly 3,500 more shifted to the MassGOP ahead of tomorrow’s “Super Tuesday” presidential primary.


For context, there are nearly 1.5 million registered Democrats in Massachusetts, so 20k isn't much (≈1.3%) and of that number only 3.5k actually switched to the Republican party (≈0.2%). It's still a shift, but it sounds a lot bigger/more important than it really is.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
March 01 2016 15:03 GMT
#61649
Anyone think it's possible Bernie will drop out after today? Looking at the schedule, it looks like it'll either be today or after March 15 (Florida, Illinois, Missouri, North Carolina, Ohio). I don't see him as the type to hang around to make a symbolic message. I think he'll understand that sticking around only helps the GOP after some talks with advisors.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
March 01 2016 15:06 GMT
#61650
seems like he's the type to stick around though.

the more interesting question is, what part of bernie's platform will hillary take up.

We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52798 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-01 15:09:31
March 01 2016 15:08 GMT
#61651
On March 02 2016 00:03 Mohdoo wrote:
Anyone think it's possible Bernie will drop out after today? Looking at the schedule, it looks like it'll either be today or after March 15 (Florida, Illinois, Missouri, North Carolina, Ohio). I don't see him as the type to hang around to make a symbolic message. I think he'll understand that sticking around only helps the GOP after some talks with advisors.

He announced he was sticking around until the convention.

Edit: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/02/29/sanders-says-hes-running-until-all-50-states-vote-knocks-clinton-for-corporate-money/
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-01 15:10:51
March 01 2016 15:09 GMT
#61652
On March 02 2016 00:06 oneofthem wrote:
seems like he's the type to stick around though.

the more interesting question is, what part of bernie's platform will hillary take up.



I think he's the type to make sure he makes his statement, but it really is just wasteful to stick around. He's made such a big deal about momentum and the fact that he truly can win. When he loses 10 states today, that is going to be difficult to say.

On March 02 2016 00:08 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2016 00:03 Mohdoo wrote:
Anyone think it's possible Bernie will drop out after today? Looking at the schedule, it looks like it'll either be today or after March 15 (Florida, Illinois, Missouri, North Carolina, Ohio). I don't see him as the type to hang around to make a symbolic message. I think he'll understand that sticking around only helps the GOP after some talks with advisors.

He announced he was sticking around until the convention.

Edit: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/02/29/sanders-says-hes-running-until-all-50-states-vote-knocks-clinton-for-corporate-money/


I think this is just chest beating. He should have said that because that increases support. He wouldn't say "Yeah I'll probably drop out soon".
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-01 15:14:09
March 01 2016 15:12 GMT
#61653
Bernie will drop out when it becomes clear he can’t win or the democrats make a deal with him. As much as he wants to push his issues and promote discussion, I think he fully understands that Trump is a real threat to the things he cares about. The man has been in the Senate for a long time and he knows the second coming of W. Bush era politics when he sees it.

Edit: I've seen that claim a couple times in elections and then people drop out when the math doesn't work. Sanders is playing to win, but the man can add just like everyone else.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 01 2016 15:13 GMT
#61654
Donald Trump heads into Super Tuesday with a massive lead over his Republican rivals, according to a national NBC News/SurveyMonkey poll released Tuesday.

Trump has 40 percent support among registered Republicans, nearly twice the support of second-place Marco Rubio, who sits at 21 percent. Ted Cruz is third at 18 percent, followed by Ben Carson at 8 percent and John Kasich at 7 percent.

After largely refraining from direct attacks on Trump, Rubio finally engaged the front-runner in last Thursday’s debate. The Florida senator’s support has jumped 5 percent in the past week, and Trump’s support has ticked up 4 percent. Meantime, Cruz has fallen 1 percent.

Both Rubio and Cruz have maintained on the trail that their campaigns are best positioned to upset Trump and win the Republican nomination. But the real estate mogul beats Rubio head-to-head by 6 percentage points, 52 percent to 46 percent, and smashes Cruz by a double-digit margin, 55 percent to 42 percent.

On the Democratic side, Hillary Clinton leads Bernie Sanders by a 10-point margin, 51 percent to 41 percent.
The national poll surveyed 30,294 adults and more than 4,200 registered Republicans. It was conducted online Feb. 22-28.


Source
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zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6342 Posts
March 01 2016 16:09 GMT
#61655
That look on her face at the end. Brilliant.

Pre-emptive retaliatory de-escalation action
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
March 01 2016 16:16 GMT
#61656
On March 02 2016 01:09 zeo wrote:
That look on her face at the end. Brilliant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=148&v=LltnLzLXs7U


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internalized_racism
rip passion
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
March 01 2016 16:19 GMT
#61657
MSNBC is run by morons. They can't even run their retarded message properly.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
March 01 2016 16:23 GMT
#61658
On March 02 2016 01:09 zeo wrote:
That look on her face at the end. Brilliant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=148&v=LltnLzLXs7U


She looks absolutely furious. What a piece of shit.
Deathstar
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
9150 Posts
March 01 2016 16:30 GMT
#61659
Why are we pretending that blacks won't be in Trump's crosshair after Mexicans (ie Hispanics to these people)?
rip passion
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 01 2016 16:36 GMT
#61660
I think this thread might believe that, but most blacks I know have no delusion that Trump and his supporters are all about racism. And the key is that Trump isn’t going to be overtly racist or attack minorities, but just do nothing when it happens. That they will be able to attack and abuse minorities will little or no action from the federal government, which has historically gone into racist areas of the country to protects minorities civil rights. Racism isn’t something he needs to promote, it something he will allow.
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