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ErectedZenith
325 Posts
On March 01 2016 14:00 Plansix wrote: Black people exist and sometimes Trump is in the photo. Amazing. No its Trump's campaign where he have black supporters. Trump have 5 times as much black supporters as Mitt Romney had. | ||
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Deathstar
9150 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://spiritualcompassconnection.com/images/monkeys.jpg) Trump is currently toying with white supremacist support. In a debate, Trump would be destroyed by either Bernie or Hillary. But for Trump's supporters, it won't matter. Nothing matters because it's not a reality based support. He can murder someone and the supporters will believe it's all a white genocide conspiracy and support him even more. | ||
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Deathstar
9150 Posts
On March 01 2016 13:29 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: So Clintons plan is to attack the guy whos main reason for being so high in the polls is because he is not politically correct, attack him for not being PC? Clinton is Trumps ideal candidate, so much material to work with.I guess she does have to take the moral high ground with womens and minority issues because she certainly can't claim the moral high ground on Iraq, Libya or lobbyists. Overall it's a very weak strategy.Saw a poll last week stating 62% of democrats and 60% minorities think PC has gone too far. I'm not too happy with PC culture either but that doesn't mean I'm going to vote for Trump lol. Ridiculous logic. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Edit: Pretty sure the PC has gone to far poll could be taken at any point and it would be about the same. It a pretty loaded question, like "how do you feel about deadbeats on welfare? Are they a problem?" | ||
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ErectedZenith
325 Posts
On March 01 2016 14:08 Plansix wrote: Let us not forget the delusion of the sheep based Trumper of old. They all are cut the from the same mold, where reality doesn't matter. All that matters is refuting everything people say about Trump at every turn. He has 70 times the black supporters of Obama and is literally Jesus. Edit: Pretty sure the PC has gone to far pool could be taken at any point and it would be about the same. It a pretty loaded question, like "how do you feel about deadbeats on welfare? Are they a problem?" You are using Reductio ad absurdum. | ||
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JW_DTLA
242 Posts
Your 5 times the black supporters of Romney was the ad absurdum. Do you have any data / polling to support the claim that Trump has such a larger pool of black supporters? | ||
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Wegandi
United States2455 Posts
I expect a Clinton vs Trump to have probably the lowest voter turnout in history. So many people can't stand either one of them. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
After that it's about making Trump paint himself in a corner by getting under his skin and making him say more dumb things. Obama can bring up how how he humiliated Trump at the White House Press Correspondent's Dinner. Bill can pull the "aww shucks gee whiz" thing and just bring up all the oppo about the shit Trump has pulled over the years. Also David Brock and the rest of the dogs of war are gonna be let loose to tear Trump a new one. Trump is a bully, he's never faced anyone who really stood up to him. It'll be very interesting to see if he reacts as predicted, or if he's actually some sort of genius. | ||
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JW_DTLA
242 Posts
On March 01 2016 14:53 ticklishmusic wrote: Chiming in late, but I basically agree with the article. All Hillary really has to do is quote Trump and be like "do we really trust the dude who said he'd bang his own daughter to lead our country?" and focus on the fact she's miles ahead of him on policy. After that it's about making Trump paint himself in a corner by getting under his skin and making him say more dumb things. Obama can bring up how how he humiliated Trump at the White House Press Correspondent's Dinner. Bill can pull the "aww shucks gee whiz" thing and just bring up all the oppo about the shit Trump has pulled over the years. Also David Brock and the rest of the dogs of war are gonna be let loose to tear Trump a new one. Trump is a bully, he's never faced anyone who really stood up to him. It'll be very interesting to see if he reacts as predicted, or if he's actually some sort of genius. Check out Megan McArdle's article about die hard republicans who say never Trump. What is really turning them isn't the policy, it is Trump's deeply unstable personality and patent authoritarianism. Hillary can simply lay into Trump with highlight reels of his impossible claims of the illegal things he would do as president and show how often he twists and turns on the stage as the debates move around. http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2016-02-29/the-die-hard-republicans-who-say-nevertrump | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4456 Posts
On March 01 2016 14:52 Wegandi wrote: If Hillary wants to win she should point out how often Trump has supported them (the Clintons). Her best shot is to alienate as many GOP voters as she can and if there's one thing the GOP doesn't like are the Clintons. There is ample evidence...which I am sort of surprised hasn't been used too much in the primary. I expect a Clinton vs Trump to have probably the lowest voter turnout in history. So many people can't stand either one of them. Jeb already brought that up in the debates if you recall.Trump handled it pretty well, said that as a businessman he had to get along with everyone to do deals. No mention of the economy guys? If the US enters recession before November expect a Trump landslide.Economy = always 1# issue. | ||
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Danglars
United States12133 Posts
On March 01 2016 14:05 Deathstar wrote: These are Trump supporters. + Show Spoiler + Trump is currently toying with white supremacist support. In a debate, Trump would be destroyed by either Bernie or Hillary. But for Trump's supporters, it won't matter. Nothing matters because it's not a reality based support. He can murder someone and the supporters will believe it's all a white genocide conspiracy and support him even more. I like how the man can make fun of the topic, praising the loyalty of his supporters. They won't be on to the next candidate when he sneezes. "I mean I had a rating -- 68% would not leave under any circumstance. I think that means murder, I think it means anything, OK?" Libs in hushed tones be like He said murder! Murder! He really means it! It goes with his white supremacist support, too! They'll really excuse him for murder because they're all KKK members and white nationalists! I'm starting to wonder if the real joke is the person posting the picture is the chimp. | ||
Jibba
United States22883 Posts
On October 19 2012 17:28 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: The REAL terrorists are INSIDE the 'Federal' Reserve Building printing money not backed by gold or silver (illegal under the US Constitution) and then lending it to the US government at interest. | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4456 Posts
On March 01 2016 16:39 Jibba wrote: Just so ya'll know what kind of poster you're dealing with. I'm sure ya'll have got better things to do with your time than try to fit complex ideas through his skull. Hey, when they bring in negative interest rates and ban cash you'll see how criminal these reserve banks are. Negative rates now in : Denmark, Sweden, Switzerland, Japan. Time magazine : Why USD100 and EUR500 may be killed off http://time.com/money/4226174/kill-100-dollar-bill-500-euro-phase-out/ | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46498 Posts
On March 01 2016 14:52 Wegandi wrote: If Hillary wants to win she should point out how often Trump has supported them (the Clintons). Her best shot is to alienate as many GOP voters as she can and if there's one thing the GOP doesn't like are the Clintons. There is ample evidence...which I am sort of surprised hasn't been used too much in the primary. I expect a Clinton vs Trump to have probably the lowest voter turnout in history. So many people can't stand either one of them. Does that necessarily equate to a low voter turnout? Might it be the case that voters become motivated to vote for Hillary just because they know that the alternative is Trump (or vice-versa)? Fear and hate and other negative emotions can be pretty strong motivators. I feel like apathy and complacency would be more likely to lead to low voter turnout, and there are surely plenty of emotions and hype to go around. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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zeo
Serbia6343 Posts
Nearly 20,000 Bay State Democrats have fled the party this winter, with thousands doing so to join the Republican ranks, according to the state’s top elections official. Secretary of State William Galvin said more than 16,300 Democrats have shed their party affiliation and become independent voters since Jan. 1, while nearly 3,500 more shifted to the MassGOP ahead of tomorrow’s “Super Tuesday” presidential primary. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
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zeo
Serbia6343 Posts
On March 01 2016 21:07 Plansix wrote: That is the Boston Herald, I would take that with a grain of salt. That paper has been successfully sued a bunch of times for confusing fiction with fact just to sell papers. Its just quoting the Secretary of State William Galvin, according to the article he is the state’s top elections official. So its a high ranking Democrat. its also in this article http://www.wbur.org/2016/02/29/presidential-candidates-hit-mass-a-day-ahead-of-super-tuesday-primary and this one https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2016/02/29/secretary-state-sees-huge-voter-turnout-tuesday/TPz4CAjfD2Je5Dm7XAfIAJ/story.html | ||
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ErectedZenith
325 Posts
On March 01 2016 14:42 JW_DTLA wrote: Your 5 times the black supporters of Romney was the ad absurdum. Do you have any data / polling to support the claim that Trump has such a larger pool of black supporters? http://www.theamericanmirror.com/shock-poll-trump-receives-25-of-black-vote-in-general-election-matchup/ | ||
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