US Politics Mega-thread - Page 3026

On February 25 2016 23:56 kwizach wrote:

At the same time, though, this could backfire: if he ends up choosing a more liberal nominee, Republicans will be able to start a "we told you so!" narrative, saying Obama did not even try to pick a nominee that would have a chance of going through, like that Republican governor. We'll see.

On February 26 2016 00:08 Plansix wrote:
He said the ACA is unconstitutional, so I am not sure how seriously I can take this reported leak. It looks like pure bait.

On February 26 2016 00:12 oneofthem wrote:
may just be pure rhetoric. he opted into the exchange as governor.

On February 25 2016 23:55 Mohdoo wrote:


I think it could have been extremely successful if it was focused, deliberate and organized. If they would have stuck to protesting police violence or unfair convictions or stuff like that in huge masses, that would have been really great. But these somewhat terrorist'ish stunts where someone hides in the crowd until the perfect moment to make a huge scene and get kicked out is just so meaningless. NO one is going to feel inspired by that. A massive protest outside a courthouse that won't let some young black kid going to jail for 20 years for a half smoked blunt in his back pocket? I'd get behind that. I'd share and support it. But asking Hilary Clinton to apologize for mass incarceration is sensationalist, meaningless nonsense. It doesn't reflect a movement, it reflects a mad girl repeating herself over and over.

You deplore the demonstrations taking place in Birmingham. But your statement, I am sorry to say, fails to express a similar concern for the conditions that brought about the demonstrations. I am sure that none of you would want to rest content with the superficial kind of social analysis that deals merely with effects and does not grapple with underlying causes. It is unfortunate that demonstrations are taking place in Birmingham, but it is even more unfortunate that the city's white power structure left the Negro community with no alternative.

On February 25 2016 23:39 GreenHorizons wrote:

Hillary can't handle "artful smears" or a BLM protester without Secret Service and Brock begging Sanders to be nice, and people think she would stand a chance against a Trump that would go full scorched earth, nope.

On February 25 2016 23:59 Plansix wrote:

This happens with almost all Supreme Court nominees. Names get thrown out there, the rumor mill runs at full tilt. They test the waters to see how the public response to a specific nominee, what the press latches on to. I don’t see anything out of the ordinary. Remember they need to both put someone in front of the senate and also temper expectations of their own party.

On February 26 2016 00:49 xDaunt wrote:

More specifically, they want to bait republicans into saying that they'd affirm the guy so that republicans are set up as being hypocrites when Obama actually starts nominating people. It's all a political stunt.

On February 26 2016 00:49 xDaunt wrote:

More specifically, they want to bait republicans into saying that they'd affirm the guy so that republicans are set up as being hypocrites when Obama actually starts nominating people. It's all a political stunt.

Just 20 years ago, New York City was racked with crime: murders, burglaries, drug deals, car thefts, thefts from cars. (Remember the signs in car windows advising no radio?) Unlike many cities’ crime problems, New York’s were not limited to a few inner-city neighborhoods that could be avoided. Bryant Park, in the heart of midtown and adjacent to the New York Public Library, was an open-air drug market; Grand Central Terminal, a gigantic flophouse; the Port Authority Bus Terminal, “a grim gauntlet for bus passengers dodging beggars, drunks, thieves, and destitute drug addicts,” as the New York Times put it in 1992. In July 1985, the Citizens Crime Commission of New York City published a study showing widespread fear of theft and assault in downtown Brooklyn, Fordham Road in the Bronx, and Jamaica Center in Queens. Riders abandoned the subway in droves, fearing assault from lunatics and gangs.

On February 26 2016 01:48 Deathstar wrote:
Taxi Driver is also a accurate depiction of the 70s.

Re: BLM, the time where we passed the crime bills was a vastly different time. I don't remember much since I was like 4 (maybe Seuss and a few others do?), but I've done a good bit of reading about it. It was a bad time. Like it or not, the crime issue was quite real. In New Orleans there were parts of the East, and in Atlanta we still have Bankhead. There were some bad parts of urban cities that were close to warzones or the post-apocalyptic looting you see in movies. As I've said before, these initiatives were made with the input and support of the black community and there was far ranging unintended consequences which have not been properly corrected. To blame the Clintons for all the incarceration and disproportionate effect on minorities ignores the backdrop in which the legislation was passed and the very real problem it was intended to address. Specific to this incident: that girl was a heckler. The end.