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oneofthem
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Mohdoo
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Plansix
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RvB
Netherlands6322 Posts
On February 25 2016 23:25 Mohdoo wrote: It feels like China is going through their own version of our financial crisis regarding bad loans. China has a lot more bad loans than the US and EU banks in the crisis and has had something similar like this decades ago. They haven't even truely fixed those NPLs. The difference is that Chinese banks have the government as a backstop (even moreso than too big to fail banks). | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On February 25 2016 23:18 Deathstar wrote: I would sympathize but monolithic voters are what they are. Obama and Reid are currently vetting a former Republican governor who's anti-union for SCOTUS. I don't even... I wonder if they really want him as a candidate or if they're trying to make the Republican senate look like morons for undermining the constitution. | ||
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Laurens
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Mohdoo
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On February 25 2016 23:35 LegalLord wrote: I wonder if they really want him as a candidate or if they're trying to make the Republican senate look like morons for undermining the constitution. I think it is partly that and also partly the fact that the administration may be starting to think the senate will go yallqaeda on everyone and block any nominations they don't think are excellent. | ||
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Deathstar
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On February 25 2016 23:35 LegalLord wrote: I wonder if they really want him as a candidate or if they're trying to make the Republican senate look like morons for undermining the constitution. Considering Obama pushed hard for TPP against the Democratic Party, I don't even know what to think of Obama now. I think he's serious. Republicans will continue to say "no" until they say yes to an anti-union Republican for SCOTUS under a Democratic presidency. | ||
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GreenHorizons
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That she went into that fancy house with secret service and a room full of rich and powerful white folks all booing and hissing at her took courage. Even if people don't agree with her, it takes guts, guts I'd bet many here wouldn't have. On February 25 2016 23:36 Laurens wrote: Just scanning the last 3 pages of this thread. Interesting that the main discussion is about Clinton v Bernie instead of the fact that DONALD TRUMP is actually going to be the candidate for the republicans. How is this even allowed to happen. I said it a long time ago, got confirmed after the votes started, only the people in the most denial haven't come around to it yet. Hillary can't handle "artful smears" or a BLM protester without Secret Service and Brock begging Sanders to be nice, and people think she would stand a chance against a Trump that would go full scorched earth, nope. | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On February 25 2016 23:36 Laurens wrote: Just scanning the last 3 pages of this thread. Interesting that the main discussion is about Clinton v Bernie instead of the fact that DONALD TRUMP is actually going to be the candidate for the republicans. How is this even allowed to happen. Trump hasn't secured the nomination yet. He's the clear favorite, but he won't really clinch it until/unless he wins Florida and Ohio. | ||
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oneofthem
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Mohdoo
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On February 25 2016 23:39 GreenHorizons wrote: Think about how terrifying it could be to potentially end Hillary's chance at the presidency like that. Confronting Hillary under any circumstances would probably even have our resident conservatives stumbling over their words. Let alone in a hostile environment with someone yelling "you're trespassing" shortly after you start speaking (and already paid $500 to be there) with the potential to change the whole race. That she went into that fancy house with secret service and a room full of rich and powerful white folks all booing and hissing at her took courage. Even if people don't agree with her, it takes guts, guts I'd bet many here wouldn't have. So she had guts, got kicked out of a building and wasted her night. What good did she really get out of these guts? What did she walk away with other than a youtube video with 20k views? She's not the first BLM idiot to try disrupting a candidates speech. They do this all the time. She's not special in the slightest other than being really worked up over racial issues to the point of asking ridiculous questions repeatedly in a loud, obnoxious way. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24385 Posts
On February 25 2016 23:43 Mohdoo wrote: So she had guts, got kicked out of a building and wasted her night. What good did she really get out of these guts? What did she walk away with other than a youtube video with 20k views? She's not the first BLM idiot to try disrupting a candidates speech. They do this all the time. She's not special in the slightest other than being really worked up over racial issues to the point of asking ridiculous questions repeatedly in a loud, obnoxious way. It's too bad there aren't any black Hillary supporters here. I just hope Hillary supporters are spreading this stuff everywhere so Black folks can see where she and them really stand. | ||
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oneofthem
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Plansix
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On February 25 2016 23:38 Deathstar wrote: Considering Obama pushed hard for TPP against the Democratic Party, I don't even know what to think of Obama now. I think he's serious. Republicans will continue to say "no" until they say yes to an anti-union Republican for SCOTUS under a Democratic presidency. Although he fought against the local unions when he was governor, you need to look at his rulings as a judge as well. They are two very separate offices. He is also pro-solar energy as well. But this is clearly an intentional leak by the White House and they might not even being considering him. Its just to get the news talking about the Obama’s choices, rather than the senate saying they won’t hold hearings. Its to start the press asking the senate “well what about this person” so they are painted into a corner. | ||
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kwizach
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Mohdoo
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On February 25 2016 23:45 oneofthem wrote: i genuinely feel extremely bad about the way the BLM movement has gone. this sort of stuff is precisely the outcome i was concerned about back when the first mass protests were happening. the reception to these movements by the privileged mainstream society is extremely sensitive to any 'bad' behavior because of the implicit or explicit bias and inability to relate to particular ghetto experiences. I think it could have been extremely successful if it was focused, deliberate and organized. If they would have stuck to protesting police violence or unfair convictions or stuff like that in huge masses, that would have been really great. But these somewhat terrorist'ish stunts where someone hides in the crowd until the perfect moment to make a huge scene and get kicked out is just so meaningless. NO one is going to feel inspired by that. A massive protest outside a courthouse that won't let some young black kid going to jail for 20 years for a half smoked blunt in his back pocket? I'd get behind that. I'd share and support it. But asking Hilary Clinton to apologize for mass incarceration is sensationalist, meaningless nonsense. It doesn't reflect a movement, it reflects a mad girl repeating herself over and over. | ||
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
On February 25 2016 23:53 kwizach wrote: GreenHorizons, since you didn't want to wager your vote in the general election, how about your support for Clinton on these forums? If Clinton wins the Democratic primary, you have to stop posting any negative comments about her here, and only be positive whenever you mention her, until the general election results come out. I'll let you suggest what I have to do if Sanders gets the nomination (perhaps the same + a sig like "I was wrong, GreenHorizons was right, #ifeelthebern"?). don't think it's fair to GH to take this bet tho since he's the most vocal anti-hillary bernie guy here, while you are not the most vocal anti-bernie guy. | ||
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kwizach
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On February 25 2016 23:47 Plansix wrote: But this is clearly an intentional leak by the White House and they might not even being considering him. Its just to get the news talking about the Obama’s choices, rather than the senate saying they won’t hold hearings. Its to start the press asking the senate “well what about this person” so they are painted into a corner. At the same time, though, this could backfire: if he ends up choosing a more liberal nominee, Republicans will be able to start a "we told you so!" narrative, saying Obama did not even try to pick a nominee that would have a chance of going through, like that Republican governor. We'll see. | ||
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kwizach
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On February 25 2016 23:55 oneofthem wrote: don't think it's fair to GH to take this bet tho since he's the most vocal anti-hillary bernie guy here, while you are not the most vocal anti-bernie guy. That's why I added the sig on my end, but yes, I'm open to suggestions by GH as to what I should do if Sanders wins :-) On February 25 2016 23:55 Mohdoo wrote: I think it could have been extremely successful if it was focused, deliberate and organized. If they would have stuck to protesting police violence or unfair convictions or stuff like that in huge masses, that would have been really great. But these somewhat terrorist'ish stunts where someone hides in the crowd until the perfect moment to make a huge scene and get kicked out is just so meaningless. NO one is going to feel inspired by that. A massive protest outside a courthouse that won't let some young black kid going to jail for 20 years for a half smoked blunt in his back pocket? I'd get behind that. I'd share and support it. But asking Hilary Clinton to apologize for mass incarceration is sensationalist, meaningless nonsense. It doesn't reflect a movement, it reflects a mad girl repeating herself over and over. Exactly. | ||
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