EPTedit: then again...this isn't the first time we thought Trump would fizzle...
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Mohdoo
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edit: then again...this isn't the first time we thought Trump would fizzle... | ||
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ticklishmusic
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I'm wondering if he'll just suddenly pivot to the middle under the rationale "I'm a winner, I stand for winning. You better believe that. I said things to win the primary to win the primary, not because I believe in them. Call it a lie, I call it winning. This is my real platform. Single-payer. New tax code. Business-friendly rules. I think it's pretty great. It'll make America great again and make everyone here a winner." | ||
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oneofthem
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Plansix
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On December 09 2015 01:20 oneofthem wrote: trump will carry 48 states There is no polling math that supports that claim. | ||
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oneofthem
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On December 09 2015 01:21 Plansix wrote: There is no polling math that supports that claim. i see sanders winning mass. and new york versus the donald. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On December 09 2015 01:41 oneofthem wrote: i see sanders winning mass. and new york versus the donald. Once again, there is no math that supports this. Trumps unfavorables are horrible nation wide. The only people supporting him now are a tiny fraction of the electorate. There is no way he gets California and the majority of the swing states he needs to be elected. You grossly over estimate peoples desire to avoid a socialist in the White House based on nothing. And I think you over estimate the Republican parties willingness to support him in any way. | ||
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oneofthem
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JonnyBNoHo
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Friday, December 04, 2015 Understanding Trump This passage from Ross Douthat caught my eye: Writing for Slate last week, Jamelle Bouie argued that Trumpism, however ideologically inchoate, manifests at least seven of the hallmarks of fascism identified by the Italian polymath Umberto Eco. They include: a cult of action, a celebration of aggressive masculinity, an intolerance of criticism, a fear of difference and outsiders, a pitch to the frustrations of the lower middle class, an intense nationalism and resentment at national humiliation, and a “popular elitism” that promises every citizen that they’re part of “the best people of the world.” Does this sound like Trump? Well, yes, it rather does. gregmankiw.blogspot.com Dunno if anyone already posted the NYT opinion piece he's referencing. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
If fascism comes, he added, it will not be identified with any "shirt" movement, nor with an "insignia," but it will probably be "wrapped up in the American flag and heralded as a plea for liberty and preservation of the constitution." | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
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DarkPlasmaBall
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Edit: And hair-raising ^^ + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/kxbAc3H.jpg) | ||
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cLutZ
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Well clearly he missed on Trump. He is both anti-Liberty and anti-constitution. | ||
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Plansix
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On December 09 2015 02:43 cLutZ wrote: Well clearly he missed on Trump. He is both anti-Liberty and anti-constitution. It doesn't need to be true, you just need to claim it. That is the power of fascism, the reality of their goal doesn't even need to line up with the beliefs they espouse. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
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ticklishmusic
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jcarlsoniv
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On December 09 2015 02:58 ticklishmusic wrote: At least Voldemort wasn't an asshole. Wow, Pure Blood sympathizer | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On December 09 2015 02:58 ticklishmusic wrote: At least Voldemort wasn't an asshole. He was a pretty big jerk, but he also wore that evil on his sleeve and catered at least catered to the rich and privileged. I can respect someone who makes no bones about being evil. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On December 09 2015 02:50 Plansix wrote: It doesn't need to be true, you just need to claim it. That is the power of fascism, the reality of their goal doesn't even need to line up with the beliefs they espouse. He doesn't even claim it. He is just a nationalist, both social and economic. While Trump is a kooky figure, that quote doesn't apply, and neither really does any of the Facist/Stalinist comparisons(the ideas, economically are just too different). I actually would say his closest analogy is Teddy Roosevelt, who was insane, by the way. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On December 09 2015 03:02 Plansix wrote: He was a pretty big jerk, but he also wore that evil on his sleeve and catered at least catered to the rich and privileged. I can respect someone who makes no bones about being evil. Voldemort didn't order his friends to toss the baby that harry still was out of the window to kill him that way after he tried to kill him and failed. Voldemort at least let him grow up until he was 14 or whatever it was. Can you say Trump would do that? I think not, | ||
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oneofthem
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