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The authorities reported that three people were killed, a police officer and two civilians, and nine were wounded before the suspect finally surrendered more than five hours after the first shots were fired.

On November 28 2015 10:29 cLutZ wrote:
Whoever wrote that report knows nothing of patent law, and nothing of environmental law. To the USPTO they claimed it had novel functionality as an herbacide, to the EPA they argued it posed no additional health risks to humans.

They aren't contradictory at all.

On November 28 2015 10:29 cLutZ wrote:
Whoever wrote that report knows nothing of patent law, and nothing of environmental law. To the USPTO they claimed it had novel functionality as an herbacide, to the EPA they argued it posed no additional health risks to humans.

They aren't contradictory at all.

On November 28 2015 12:17 Acrofales wrote:

True, but I also agree that if it has increased functionality as a herbicide, and that that is something significant enough to patent, then that same effect might cause increased toxicity to humans.

It's worth noting that simply mixing two chemicals 50/50 does not normally merit patenting, so there has to be some significant invention: the sum has to be greater than its parts. If that is true, then that effect, which they call "synergism" might not just be dangerous to herbs.

Therefore this sleight of hand should end in one of two ways: a) their patent is invalidated because synergism is exactly as much bullshit as it sounds, or b) synergism is a thing and the EPA should investigate whether that makes this new herbicide dangerous to humans, the environment, etc.

Also remember that the EPA is not just around to protect humans from toxins, but also other plants and animals. DDT was never banned because of its danger to humans, but because it was doing an excellent job at wiping out birds.

On November 28 2015 10:29 cLutZ wrote:
Whoever wrote that report knows nothing of patent law, and nothing of environmental law. To the USPTO they claimed it had novel functionality as an herbacide, to the EPA they argued it posed no additional health risks to humans.

They aren't contradictory at all.

On November 28 2015 06:19 cLutZ wrote:

If ever there was a great example of media bias. The shooting is unconnected to PP, confirmed by Colorado area papers.
http://m.gazette.com/the-latest-gunman-in-shooting-near-planned-parenthood-in-colorado-springs-remains-at-large-multiple-victims-reported/article/1564419 Read the 1:34 update. There is also a chase bank in the vicinity, and a TCF and a gas station. But, yea, must be related to PP.

On November 29 2015 01:25 Rebs wrote:


Not that I agree with the article but I dont think the article mentions any contradictions. It just says different stories to different people. Which seems like the case to me regardless of the impact of whether its an issue or not.



Please tell me you feel stupid, just a little stupid about this now.

Or is humility in the face of overwhelming evidence so hard to swallow ?

edit: Actually dont answer that. I know the answer, sorry for the rhetoric.

On November 29 2015 02:20 cLutZ wrote:

What do you mean? The point was not that a there was no PP shooter, but that it was so quickly reported as one. If it had not been a preferred storyline we would be finding out that he was black panther or Muslim right about now, instead of during an ongoing situation that seems to me, the most poorly reported on in my lifetime.

The same rowdy band of green activists who toppled the Keystone XL pipeline are aiming their sights at ExxonMobil.

Environmental groups are waging an escalating public relations campaign against the giant oil and gas company, diving deep into Exxon’s history to accuse it of knowingly — perhaps illegally — misleading the public about its decades of research on the dangers of climate change. Their allegations, backed by recent news reports from Inside Climate News and the Los Angeles Times, led New York state Attorney General Eric Schneiderman to launch an open-ended investigation this month into Exxon's actions. All three Democratic presidential candidates followed up by urging the Justice Department to open a racketeering probe.

Green groups and their allies are also appealing to foreign governments to put Exxon under the microscope. And they’ve taken their message to social media, branding it with the hashtag “#ExxonKnew.”

Their aim is to make Exxon face the same kinds of consequences for allegedly obscuring the risks of climate change as Big Tobacco did for lying about cancer. It is the next phase in a multifront campaign against fossil fuels in which greens have defeated the Keystone pipeline, successfully pushed to shut down hundreds of coal plants and helped persuade President Barack Obama to cancel plans for Arctic offshore drilling.

But Exxon will be a tougher opponent for the greens than Keystone developer TransCanada, which was essentially a nonentity in Washington influence circles until two years into the seven-year-long pipeline fight. Exxon, in contrast, is one of the world's largest and most politically active companies, and it has already mounted a vocal, well-organized defense that seeks to discredit its critics — while maintaining that it has always been upfront about its climate research.

Still, the greens say they’ve won underdog battles before.

On November 29 2015 02:20 cLutZ wrote:

What do you mean? The point was not that a there was no PP shooter, but that it was so quickly reported as one. If it had not been a preferred storyline we would be finding out that he was black panther or Muslim right about now, instead of during an ongoing situation that seems to me, the most poorly reported on in my lifetime.

On November 29 2015 09:51 KwarK wrote:
I bet his face will be red when he finds out that video was a pack of lies.

On November 29 2015 09:56 Liquid`Drone wrote:
carly fiorina has bloody hands?

On November 29 2015 10:08 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So if this turns out to be true then Carly Fiorina and elements of the GOP have blood on their hands. Shows how far the Republican party has gone in order to establish any political capital they have to appeal to the most divisive regardless of the consequences.

On November 29 2015 10:15 Gorsameth wrote:
I'm not a fan of the whole "blood on their hands" thing. If not for this then some other stupid thing would have made him kill people.

Mentally unstable people just need a push, that push can come from a 101 things.