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On November 28 2015 07:19 cLutZ wrote:
MSNBC interviewed a witness just now that said the shooter fled to PP after starting the shooting in Chase bank. Which makes sense since the Gazette has a victim taken to hospital from Chase quite early in the timeline.
that wouldn't surprise me a ton. I'm not sure though since the original call came from planned parenthood seems weird that the bank wouldn't call if someone got shot. I'm think ill just wait for the official statement and try to avoid jumping to conclusions or thinking too much into it before then
from the cnn article
"We're not sure what the connection is to Planned Parenthood, but that was the original address we received for the call for service," Buckley said.
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That seems pretty knee jerk....
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If this isn't terrorism it's certainly doing one hell of an impression.
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On November 28 2015 07:28 GreenHorizons wrote:
If this isn't terrorism it's certainly doing one hell of an impression.
Bank robbery gone wrong, suspect hides in PP building from cops. People kneejerk
nothing to do with terrorism at all.
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Why would a robber go around shooting random people? That doesn't really make my sense to me.
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Considering the bank didn't hit a panic button and police responded to PP I don't think there is anything suggesting it was a bank robbery at all?
EDIT: PIO Just confirmed it started at PP and didn't have anything to do with the bank (besides some injured people who fled there).
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On November 28 2015 08:03 GreenHorizons wrote:
Considering the bank didn't hit a panic button and police responded to PP I don't think there is anything suggesting it was a bank robbery at all?
Last post previous page. qouted at the top of this page aswell
On November 28 2015 07:19 cLutZ wrote:
MSNBC interviewed a witness just now that said the shooter fled to PP after starting the shooting in Chase bank. Which makes sense since the Gazette has a victim taken to hospital from Chase quite early in the timeline.
On November 28 2015 08:00 heliusx wrote:
Why would a robber go around shooting random people? That doesn't really make my sense to me.
Trying to rob a bank doesn't make sense either, some people just do dumb shit.
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On November 28 2015 08:07 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2015 08:03 GreenHorizons wrote:
Considering the bank didn't hit a panic button and police responded to PP I don't think there is anything suggesting it was a bank robbery at all? Last post previous page. qouted at the top of this page aswell Show nested quote +On November 28 2015 07:19 cLutZ wrote:
MSNBC interviewed a witness just now that said the shooter fled to PP after starting the shooting in Chase bank. Which makes sense since the Gazette has a victim taken to hospital from Chase quite early in the timeline.
Well, I tend to be skeptical of police reports in general (see Lequan McDonald) I don't know why they would lie about it not having anything to do with a bank robbery.
EDIT: Damn you know it's cold when snow hit's your face and doesn't melt.
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Sure it does, its a means to an end. What does shooting people in another building accomplish?
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Fail EDIT:
Anyone else listening to the scanner?
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On November 28 2015 08:16 GreenHorizons wrote:
Fail EDIT:
Anyone else listening to the scanner?
No, worth listening to? Listened to Boston after the marathon bombing that shit was compelling as fuck.
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On November 28 2015 08:41 OuchyDathurts wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2015 08:16 GreenHorizons wrote:
Fail EDIT:
Anyone else listening to the scanner? No, worth listening to? Listened to Boston after the marathon bombing that shit was compelling as fuck.
It's remarkably quiet and calm, the whispering makes it feel pretty intense though, like shots could start ringing out at any moment.
"Suspect calling out "okay you win" Radio says "He is going to come out with his hands up".
Suspect taken alive and in custody according to the radio traffic.
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They got him in custody apparently.
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So guy shoots 4-5 cops taken into custody. Teenager with a knife not so much.
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On November 28 2015 09:27 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So guy shoots 4-5 cops taken into custody. Teenager with a knife not so much.
Probably a camera around, hard to shoot him when he comes out with his hands up and claim he was threatening.
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Ever been caught telling different stories to different people? It's awkward.
Dow AgroSciences, which sells seeds and pesticides to farmers, made
contradictory claims to different parts of the U.S. government about its latest herbicide. The Environmental Protection Agency just found out, and now wants to cancel Dow's legal right to sell the product.
The herbicide, which the company calls Enlist Duo, is a mixture of two chemicals that farmers have used separately for many years: glyphosate (also known as Roundup) and 2,4-D. It's Dow's answer to the growing problem of weeds that are resistant to glyphosate, which has become the weed-killing weapon of choice for farmers across the country.
The new formulation is intended to work hand-in-hand with a new generation of corn and soybean seeds that are genetically engineered to tolerate sprays of both herbicides.
When Dow applied for permission to sell Enlist Duo in 2011, it told the EPA that this mixture of glyphosate and 2,4-D is no more toxic than the two chemicals are, if considered separately. The EPA accepted that argument and approved the new herbicide just over a year ago. Dow began selling it, in small quantities, this year.
But the decision was controversial. Environmentalists argued that Enlist Duo would bring on a massive increase in herbicide use. Some farmers were concerned about the use of 2,4-D, because that chemical is known to blow into neighboring fields.
Several environmental groups went to court to overturn the EPA decision, arguing that combining these two chemicals could result in new "synergistic" toxic effects that the EPA had ignored. And in the course of that litigation, the EPA discovered that Dow had been telling the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office a different story.
When applying for a patent, an inventor needs to show that something is novel and useful. And Dow's patent application for Enlist Duo claims that this mixture of chemicals does, in fact, offer farmers something new: "synergistic herbicidal weed control."
Last month, the EPA asked Dow to explain these synergistic effects. On Nov. 9, the company responded with what the EPA calls "extensive information." Neither Dow nor the EPA has disclosed any details, but the EPA, after taking a look at the new information, decided to ask the court for a chance to reverse its approval of Enlist Duo until it had fully evaluated the new information. The agency suggested that it may require larger safety buffers around fields where Enlist Duo is used.
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Whoever wrote that report knows nothing of patent law, and nothing of environmental law. To the USPTO they claimed it had novel functionality as an herbacide, to the EPA they argued it posed no additional health risks to humans.
They aren't contradictory at all.
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On November 28 2015 09:27 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So guy shoots 4-5 cops taken into custody. Teenager with a knife not so much.
Always finding something to get worked up over
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On November 28 2015 09:27 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So guy shoots 4-5 cops taken into custody. Teenager with a knife not so much.
Guy with gun surrendered. Guy with knife did not.
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