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On November 12 2015 01:32 heliusx wrote:
OK some ignorant people embrace derogatory terms. Everyone happy? I've just never heard anyone call themselves a hick. Redneck? Sure, but not hick.
On November 12 2015 01:35 heliusx wrote:
Yeah there's nothing ignorant about identifying with a term used to describe an uneducated Southerner, good grief.
The US Pol thread delivering enlightenment and cultural perspectives. Sometimes the person calling others ignorant is showing his ignorance.
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Oh I'm sure we could go on for days about the stupid shit you post.
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Love him or hate him, few people until recently would deny that Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) has a unique brand as an independent, libertarian-leaning Republican, which he has successfully leveraged to national fame.
For a variety of reasons, Paul has failed to gain traction as a Republican presidential candidate. And his peevish and lackluster performances in the first three GOP debates did him no favors.
At the Republican debate in Milwaukee on Tuesday night, though, the old Paul was back: the guy who is steadfast and combative in his libertarianism, but in a likable way. The crowd ate it up.
On foreign policy, Paul stood by his insistence that the United States should engage Russian President Vladimir Putin to seek a resolution to the war in Syria. He dismissed a no-fly zone in Syria as a reckless move that could lead to war with Russia. And playing to anti-interventionists in both parties, he noted that the proposal has the support of Hillary Clinton, as well as his Republican rivals.
“If you're ready for [a no-fly zone], be ready to send your sons and daughters to another war in Iraq,” Paul warned.
“I don't want to see that happen. I think the first war in Iraq was a mistake,” Paul added, before being cut off by applause.
On fiscal policy, Paul was unapologetic about his plans shrink the government by starving it of revenue -- and unforgiving in his attacks on his rivals for deviating from conservative fiscal orthodoxy.
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On November 12 2015 03:01 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:Show nested quote +Love him or hate him, few people until recently would deny that Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) has a unique brand as an independent, libertarian-leaning Republican, which he has successfully leveraged to national fame.
For a variety of reasons, Paul has failed to gain traction as a Republican presidential candidate. And his peevish and lackluster performances in the first three GOP debates did him no favors.
At the Republican debate in Milwaukee on Tuesday night, though, the old Paul was back: the guy who is steadfast and combative in his libertarianism, but in a likable way. The crowd ate it up.
On foreign policy, Paul stood by his insistence that the United States should engage Russian President Vladimir Putin to seek a resolution to the war in Syria. He dismissed a no-fly zone in Syria as a reckless move that could lead to war with Russia. And playing to anti-interventionists in both parties, he noted that the proposal has the support of Hillary Clinton, as well as his Republican rivals.
“If you're ready for [a no-fly zone], be ready to send your sons and daughters to another war in Iraq,” Paul warned.
“I don't want to see that happen. I think the first war in Iraq was a mistake,” Paul added, before being cut off by applause.
On fiscal policy, Paul was unapologetic about his plans shrink the government by starving it of revenue -- and unforgiving in his attacks on his rivals for deviating from conservative fiscal orthodoxy. Source
Unless he plans on actually Passing a balanced budget amendment or otherwise prohibit the Congress from borrowing, 'starving the government of revenue' doesn't shrink government at all... its like trying to lose weight by not eating less steak, but still eating as much of any other foods as you want.
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How do you shrink the government by starving it? All your going to do is force programs to be closed which hurts those in need of them, often the poor/elderly/disabled.
So he wants to shrink the government by screwing over the weak.
What a brilliant plan, I am amazed why more people didn't vote him for... /s
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On November 12 2015 02:30 Introvert wrote:
Wait, are there actually people in the media claiming Bush and Kasich had a good night? lol. I don't think it's just "right-wing media" that disagrees.
At the very best they were average. And Kasich really screwed up some things, and came off like a jerk.
Yup, Nate Silver called those media out quite a bit this morning basically saying, "just because you like medicaid and minimum wage and Kasich likes those things doesn't mean he effectively advocated for them on stage." To be honest, Kasich on welfare policies or Bush on immigration are such poor advocates they hurt those positions even among moderates; like the kid in high school debate that agrees with your position but is so bad at articulating that you actually would prefer he supported the other side.
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Ben Carson frightens me. I honestly think he is mentally unstable at this point.
Ben Carson, fresh off defending himself on Tuesday night's debate stage about media reports questioning his biographical claims, on Wednesday found a welcoming embrace at Liberty University, where he urged students to stand up against "secular progressives."
Carson has faced a week of intense media scrutiny about his claims that he tried to stab a friend as a teenager, tried to attack his mom with a hammer and that, after finding redemption, was offered a full scholarship to West Point. He also has been defending himself against his assertion that the Great Pyramids of Giza were constructed by the biblical figure Joseph to store grain, saying "secular progressives" are trying to ridicule him for this belief.
The retired neurosurgeon, speaking before the religious university's weekly convocation in Lynchburg, Virginia, again talked about the threat of people "who are trying to push God out or our lives" or otherwise negate or belittle those who believe in God as "some kind of idiot."
"Well let me tell you, our nation’s survival as the pinnacle nation in the world, I believe is rooted in our values system, the values and principles that made us into a great nation. And the real question is are we willing to stand up for those values and principles, or will we allow ourselves to be intimidated by the secular progressives?" Carson asked. "The secular progressives don’t care whether you agree with them or not, as long as you sit down and keep your mouth shut, and I think that the secret to the prosperity in this nation is we must be willing to stand up for what we believe in."
Carson, speaking hours after flying in from a two-hour economic debate in Milwaukee, still had the economy on his mind, not to mention his disdain for "unscrupulous politicians and news media."
“If you listened to the news last week, you saw a lot of people rejoicing that the unemployment rate is down to 5 percent. You know, that’s essentially full employment," Carson said. "But if you know anything at all about economics, you know you can make that number anything you want it to be, based on who you include and who you exclude and that the real number is the labor force participation rate which is at its lowest level in 38 years."
The United States' system of governance "is based upon a well-informed and educated populace," Carson said, paraphrasing the founding fathers.
"And if they ever become anything other than that, the nature of the country will change," he explained. "Because if the people are not well-informed, all it takes is unscrupulous politicians and news media and off the people go, in the completely wrong direction, listening to all kinds of propaganda and inculcating that into their method of thinking. And then it becomes real easy for them to swallow things."
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I like Rand Paul in the republican party just because he doesn't pander and calls it out when it happens. I don't agree with him on a lot of things, but when it comes to the realities of war and what is required, he is a pragmatist.
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re: stealth's comment: Ben Carson frightens me. I honestly think he is mentally unstable at this point.
I'd like all candidates for President to get a thorough checkup, to cut down on risks and surprises; something like:
http://www.mayoclinic.org/departments-centers/executive-health-program/overview
but also including mental health screening; especially with all the old democrat candidates, I'd want checks for early signs of dementia, since you really want to catch those early in a President.
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On November 12 2015 03:22 Gorsameth wrote:
How do you shrink the government by starving it? All your going to do is force programs to be closed which hurts those in need of them, often the poor/elderly/disabled.
So he wants to shrink the government by screwing over the weak.
What a brilliant plan, I am amazed why more people didn't vote him for... /s You have another idea to shrink the size of government? Whining about every cut, big or small, as hurting the poor and disadvantaged is the reason for the bloat and lack of reforms, coupled with the political gains of promising the world and political costs of talking about how we'll pay for it.
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Yeah, because Republicans have come to the table with "small cuts" and argued in good faith on their behalf lol
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On November 12 2015 04:30 Danglars wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2015 03:22 Gorsameth wrote:
How do you shrink the government by starving it? All your going to do is force programs to be closed which hurts those in need of them, often the poor/elderly/disabled.
So he wants to shrink the government by screwing over the weak.
What a brilliant plan, I am amazed why more people didn't vote him for... /s You have another idea to shrink the size of government? Whining about every cut, big or small, as hurting the poor and disadvantaged is the reason for the bloat and lack of reforms, coupled with the political gains of promising the world and political costs of talking about how we'll pay for it.
Cutting the actual bloated government organizations, like the Military or the Alphabets, seems like a good start.
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On November 12 2015 02:58 heliusx wrote:
Oh I'm sure we could go on for days about the stupid shit you post. I should've kept it on a happy note. We hash out policy and politicians so often it's refreshing to see cultural enlightenment (for how misused that term is). I read daily to hear the new among all the old. I don't hear from many Europeans on their political views except on this site and I'm constantly ignorant having only in-person discoursed with American liberals and what European examples they care to bring up.
I have to reason to think you dishonest when you judged only ignorant rubes to use the term 'hick' positively. I can see how you'd think that.
On November 12 2015 04:41 WolfintheSheep wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2015 04:30 Danglars wrote:On November 12 2015 03:22 Gorsameth wrote:
How do you shrink the government by starving it? All your going to do is force programs to be closed which hurts those in need of them, often the poor/elderly/disabled.
So he wants to shrink the government by screwing over the weak.
What a brilliant plan, I am amazed why more people didn't vote him for... /s You have another idea to shrink the size of government? Whining about every cut, big or small, as hurting the poor and disadvantaged is the reason for the bloat and lack of reforms, coupled with the political gains of promising the world and political costs of talking about how we'll pay for it. Cutting the actual bloated government organizations, like the Military or the Alphabets, seems like a good start. With a look toward what sections occupy the larger slices of the federal budget, yes. Of course the military will say the money's well spent and cuts would be disastrous, as will the dept of education treasury and on down the line. Tell me the bureaucrat that thinks his agency receives too much funding and should be cut back or eliminated. We're back to the "starve the beast" perspective.
--and much love to you too, farvie.
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for better or worse, heliusx is one of the most honest posters here, so that just ain't so, dangles. I just think it's a bit too easy for folks from the deep south to forget that we got plenty of our own "hicks" up here in the midwest and elsewhere, including those proud of the appellation 
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On November 12 2015 01:32 heliusx wrote:
OK some ignorant people embrace derogatory terms. Everyone happy? I've just never heard anyone call themselves a hick. Redneck? Sure, but not hick.
We called our recreational soccer team Hicks and a Brit because we all came from the gumboot country, (except for the lone British guy who married in.) It's sometimes used in a sort of self-deprecating way: "yeeah, I'm a bit of a hick"...sometimes in relation to relating some fish out of water experience when going to Vancouver or another big city. Or as a qualifier to acknowledge the opinion expressed is out of keeping with mainstream thought: "...but I'm a bit of redneck/ hick."
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I can honestly say that my institution spends money incredibly poorly. However I don't think giving us less money would solve that, there just isn't really any awareness of what money is or where it comes from among the people spending it. I am, of course, in academia.
I've resorted to obstructionism to try and fix some of our budget issues. By simply not doing my job I can save my department an awful lot of money. Other suggestions like "have you checked if we already have one before buying a new one?" go a long way.
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On November 12 2015 03:41 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Ben Carson frightens me. I honestly think he is mentally unstable at this point.
I think he gave himself a lobotomy. He really is just wacky and suffering from foot-in-mouth syndrome. But Trump does that too. I'm really having a hard time figuring out whether the new Sarah Palin is Donald Trump or Ben Carson. Thoughts? They both just make up shit and lie all the time, so they both have that in common with Palin. On the one hand, Trump and Palin both speak with loud, ignorant conviction. On the other hand, Carson and Palin both have this constant look of drunken bewilderment. Who is Palin 2.0?
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On November 12 2015 05:23 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2015 03:41 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Ben Carson frightens me. I honestly think he is mentally unstable at this point. I think he gave himself a lobotomy. He really is just wacky and suffering from foot-in-mouth syndrome. But Trump does that too. I'm really having a hard time figuring out whether the new Sarah Palin is Donald Trump or Ben Carson. Thoughts? They both just make up shit and lie all the time, so they both have that in common with Palin. On the one hand, Trump and Palin both speak with loud, ignorant conviction. On the other hand, Carson and Palin both have this constant look of drunken bewilderment. Who is Palin 2.0?
I think Trump is more a case of saying dumb shit because people want to hear it and Carson saying it because he believes it.
I definitely consider Carson to be more insane by a significant margin.
Even Trump isn't dumb enough to think the Pyramids were grain silo's
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United States military veterans rallied at a parade in Texas on Wednesday for the right to treat their war wounds, both physical and psychological, with medical marijuana, which remains illegal under federal law and is strictly limited in Texas.
The Veterans Day protest came a day after the U.S. Senate approved a measure allowing federal Veterans’ Affairs doctors to prescribe medical marijuana in the 23 states and the District of Columbia that have legalized the medicinal use of cannabis.
Texas only allows the use of a non-psychoactive marijuana oil product for the treatment of severe seizures. The veterans, affiliated with pro-legalization group Texans for Responsible Marijuana Policy (TRMP), want much wider legalization, saying it could help veterans with long-term pain and psychological disorders. Texas has 1.7 million veterans, the second-highest number in the country after California.
Dozens of former service members — from the Army, Marines, Air Force and Navy — marched to press their call for change in Austin’s Veteran’s Day parade Wednesday. They then gathered at the Vietnam War memorial near the statehouse to announce the launch of Operation Trapped, a campaign to raise awareness of veterans’ hope for access to medical marijuana, both edible and smokeable.
“We feel trapped by pharmaceutical drugs and we want access to medical marijuana instead of addictive painkillers and psychotropic medication,” said TRMP spokesman Dave Bass, 59, a retired army major and native Texan who served in Iraq in 2004 and 2005.
For its awareness campaign, Operation Trapped seeks to collect from veterans 1,000 pill bottles that once contained painkillers, anti-depressants or mood stabilizers — each containing a slip of paper with the veteran’s name, rank and dates of service. TRMP plans to then put toy soldiers in the bottles and present them to lawmakers at the start of the Texas state legislature’s next session, starting in January 2017. The bottles are meant to show how many veterans feel trapped by the treatment options available to them in their state.
“We don’t want to be treated as criminals,” Bass said. “We have jobs, we pay takes, some of us go to universities on the GI bill, yet Texas makes us into criminals because we choose to use medical cannabis.”
A Texas medical marijuana bill introduced this year failed in May in the state’s House Public Health Committee, despite hours of testimony from people who said marijuana has helped alleviate their illnesses.
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Police arrested a 19-year-old white man on Wednesday on suspicion of making threats on social media to shoot black people at the University of Missouri's main Columbia campus, just two days after the school's president and chancellor stepped down following protests over their handling of reports of racial abuse.
Tensions at the campus are still running high after the resignations on Monday, with a greater-than-usual police presence and several students leaving the area saying they felt unsafe.
Police arrested suspect Hunter M. Park in Rolla, Missouri, which is about 95 miles (150 km) south of Columbia, at about 1:50 a.m. local time (0750 GMT).
Park is a sophomore at Missouri University of Science and Technology (S&T) in Rolla, which is part of the University of Missouri System, according to a spokeswoman at the Rolla campus. He is studying computer science.
Police said the suspect's threats had circulated on social media, including Yik Yak, where an anonymous post tagged 'Columbia' late on Tuesday read: "I'm going to stand my ground tomorrow and shoot every black person I see."
"Some of you are alright. Don't go to campus tomorrow," another post read. “We’re waiting for you at the parking lots,” said a third post. “We will kill you."
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Sounds like a wanna be terrorist to me.
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