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"The Germans are bad, very bad," Trump said, according to participants in the room who spoke to Der Spiegel.

"See the millions of cars they sell in the U.S., terrible. We will stop this."

On March 07 2018 08:08 Leporello wrote:
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/26/trump-calls-germans-very-bad-threatens-to-end-german-car-sales-reports.html



Cohn and people need to stop pretending Trump is anything but a purposeful bane on this country.

He told folks in May '17, in his pro-Putin NATO debacle, that he was going to stop those Germans from selling all those fancy cars in our country.

This is not a surprise. Neither was the Paris Accord. You can take any issue: the position that deteriorates our relations with our EU allies will be Trump's primary choice, even if literally no one wants it. Trump had a mission, he told to our stupid faces. Tariffs is an obvious means to the end of that goal.

On March 07 2018 08:08 Leporello wrote:
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/26/trump-calls-germans-very-bad-threatens-to-end-german-car-sales-reports.html



Cohn and people need to stop pretending Trump is anything but a purposeful bane on this country.

He told folks in May '17, in his pro-Putin NATO debacle, that he was going to stop those Germans from selling all those fancy cars in our country.

This is not a surprise. Neither was the Paris Accord. You can take any issue: the position that deteriorates our relations with our EU allies will be Trump's primary choice, even if literally no one wants it. Trump had a mission, he told to our stupid faces. Tariffs is an obvious means to the end of that goal.

On March 07 2018 08:51 Toadesstern wrote:

iirc the quote from Der Spiegel is translated and when I looked it up it still looked bad but not thaaaat bad. But yeah, I've mentioned this time and time again, Trump is on collision course for the sake of collision.
He wants to win and in his mind making other people lose means you win by default. So he's literally out there trying to make other people lose because that's easier than to figure out what would be good for the US and does in his mind equate with winning, because duh, the others aren't, right?
That's basicly his gameplan with everything he touched, be it Mexico, Canada, EU, S.Korea or whatever else.

On March 07 2018 08:51 Toadesstern wrote:

iirc the quote from Der Spiegel is translated and when I looked it up it still looked bad but not thaaaat bad. But yeah, I've mentioned this time and time again, Trump is on collision course for the sake of collision.
He wants to win and in his mind making other people lose means you win by default. So he's literally out there trying to make other people lose because that's easier than to figure out what would be good for the US and does in his mind equate with winning, because duh, the others aren't, right?
That's basicly his gameplan with everything he touched, be it Mexico, Canada, EU, S.Korea or whatever else.

On March 07 2018 09:26 PhoenixVoid wrote:
With the open murmurings of conflict over the tariffs, it's no surprise to me. Problem is a staff turnover rate of 40% that is not normal in any shape or form. At least some will celebrate they got rid of a Goldman Sachs "swamp" member, though he may as well be replaced with another one of those.

On March 07 2018 10:48 ticklishmusic wrote:


Doesn't Volkswagen (and others?) produce a shit load of cars in the US anyways?



Well, at least SwampThing Gary Cohn understood economics.

On March 07 2018 06:53 Plansix wrote:
How is this relevant to US politics? Sweden has crime that they need to deal with. Some of it is related to poor immigrants. I’m sure they will figure it out.

Sixteen Senate Democrats ignored warnings from progressives and joined with Republicans on Tuesday to advance a wide-ranging deregulation bill that lawmakers are expected to pass in the coming days.

The Senate voted to begin debate on the bill in a 67-32 vote, opening the door to the first major overhaul of banking regulations since Democrats enacted the Dodd-Frank law in the wake of the 2008 financial crisis.

A deep rift between Democrats over banking industry oversight will be on full display on the Senate floor over the coming days, exposing to voters a clash of progressives and centrists that has been building for several years.

On March 07 2018 11:20 ticklishmusic wrote:
The settlement agreement thing is dumb, tbh. It looks like a case of her signing then Trump & Cohen neglecting to countersign or return a countersigned document to her. She also took the settlement money, so it's kind of ridiculous to argue that the contract wasn't valid or in force.

I'd have to look at the financial reg overhaul in more detail, but it doesn't seem bad at a glance. Dodd Frank has placed a pretty heavy regulatory burden on smaller, regional banks so reducing their reporting requirement seems ok. These banks also tend to be the ones with a less complex risk profile anyways, so some of the DF stuff isn't even as applicable to them. There's a handful of consumer protections thrown in - obviously this could be bulked up. I'm more skeptical about the looser lending requirements on big banks, though it's probably lowering their liquidity requirements. This is a motion to open debate, which I'm not necessarily against, anyways.

On March 07 2018 11:02 Danglars wrote:

Trump was criticized for a relatively accurate perspective at a time where it was verboten from mainstream media sources. A little later, a liberal outlet told the left it was okay to talk about the problem instead of dismissing it existed, and then suddenly everybody's on to discussing it without ample respect for the pioneers of the discussion.

This forum is one of the last places I expect honest historical and contextual analysis, so this is all basically pissing in the wind as far as I'm concerned. The basic cognitive dissonance of the left does not allow Trump to be right/mostly right on anything ever. This feeds into a lot of resistance to the left's smug insults, because the right knows it's an uneven playing field. And Trump's been criticized rightly (like Charlottesville initial comments, tariffs, gun control due process, chaos in the wake of Hope Hicks or Rob Porter) as well, but a little of that is lost in the midst of dishonest backlash that goes further than what is true about the issue.