EPTnot that I really care but the OP looks uber flawed.
Patchzergs, Real or Imagniary? - Page 5
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KawaiiRice
United States2914 Posts
not that I really care but the OP looks uber flawed. | ||
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Sroobz
United States1377 Posts
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MigzR
Portugal89 Posts
On August 20 2012 10:03 Anta wrote: SortOf just finfished school around april/may an started gaming full time from there. Stephano says ZvT is pretty balanced. Sure he owns Protoss but this is how he rolls long before 1.3.4 , other zergs still have trouble (ask idra). slivko and vortix are just fucking good. T whining is just awful... we had so many tournaments with TvT semis and finals - it SUCKS! bless god that time is over.. Yeah, now comes the times where finals are played zvz, watching those amazing and exciting slow and dull roach on roach battles, or standard every game early ling baneling aggression, you just can't predict what's gonna happen!!!! Hopefully we'll have a lot more of those to come!!! | ||
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nkr
Sweden5451 Posts
On August 20 2012 10:33 KawaiiRice wrote: I can't really understand how you came to the conclusion that they're not patch zergs from your "data". . . . not that I really care but the OP looks uber flawed. I guess you didn't care enough to read what I wrote before " my data ". You'll find why my conclusion is what it is. You say it looks flawed but not why, which makes me think you only looked at the results without reading the rest. Please read it and give me a more detailed opinion, I would love to hear it from a respectable player like yourself. That is... if you care. | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
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MCDayC
United Kingdom14464 Posts
So in conclusion: EU OP. | ||
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Areon
United States273 Posts
On August 20 2012 09:18 nkr wrote: I hope these number can put a hold on the name calling, if only for a bit. Thanks for reading, and feel free to discuss! (sorry for the lack of fancy pictures) What the fuck? These numbers will only add fuel to the patchzerg flames. An increase to ZvT across the board? And you thought this would be supportive? Ultimately the most important thing to note is that correlation does not equal causation. Without the patch I'm sure these players would have improved and had similar results. | ||
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nkr
Sweden5451 Posts
On August 20 2012 10:43 Areon wrote: What the fuck? These numbers will only add fuel to the patchzerg flames. An increase to ZvT across the board? And you thought this would be supportive? Ultimately the most important thing to note is that correlation does not equal causation. Without the patch I'm sure these players would have improved and had similar results. No one would expect any less than an increase in ZvT across the board. ZvT in general is much more zerg favored now than it used to be before the patch. However if they were patch zergs then surely ZvT would be the matchup carrying them since patch ? that's what the stats show has not happened | ||
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Oiseaux
United States676 Posts
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sluggaslamoo
Australia4494 Posts
I think its wrong to assume that this is because the patch made zerg overpowered against terran. The patch only exacerbated Zergs lategame strength by reducing the high rate of Terran early game all-ins which created the initial equilibrium (what Blizzard calls "balance"). I think Terran just needs more options late game, design wise, and then it will be more balanced. | ||
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BretZ
United States1510 Posts
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Orek
1665 Posts
Patch Zerg A zerg who only started making a splash in the scene after patch 1.4.3 balance changes, released the tenth of may 2012, implying that this zerg only is where he is at due to the patch, and the supposed zerg imbalance that comes with it. Campaign Terran A terran who only made a splash in the scene before patch 1.4.3 balance changes, released the tenth of may 2012, implying that this terran only was where he was at due to initial terran design that Blizzard apparently spent more time on for WoL single player terran campaign, and the supposed terran imbalance that came with it. Patch Terran A terran who will only start making a splash in the scene after patch 2.X.X balance changes in HotS, released sometime in 201X, implying that this terran will only be where he will be at due to the patch, and the supposed terran imbalance that will come with it. Campaign Zerg A zerg who will only make a splash in the scene before patch 2.X.X balance changes in HotS, released sometime in 201X, implying that this zerg will only be where he will be at due to initial zerg design that Blizzard apparently will spend more time on for HotS single player zerg campaign, and the supposed zerg imbalance that will come with it. and we compelete the cycle in LotV with Campaign Protoss vs Patch Terran/Zerg. | ||
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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
I can't help but compare JonnyRecco with Cruncher. Time will tell if he has more success than Cruncher. Saying there's no such thing as 'patchzergs' is tantamount to saying there's no such thing as balance or shifts of power. These things happen are cyclical, and are to some extent in the control of the playerbase (if not individual players) so you might as well accept it. | ||
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KiF1rE
United States964 Posts
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Valikyr
Sweden2653 Posts
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AngryMag
Germany1040 Posts
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hasuterrans
United States614 Posts
On August 20 2012 11:00 AngryMag wrote: read on TL long before I finally registered. This is the first time in this community that a bunch of new and upcoming players get insulted and belittled for actually being succesful. A real lowpoint for this community, everybody who shouts "patchzerg" should rather work on his own play and not belittling others. This is definitely not the first time. | ||
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AngryMag
Germany1040 Posts
you had individual players insulted (Cruncher for example), but you had never a whole bunch of newcomers belittled because of the race they happen to play. | ||
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hasuterrans
United States614 Posts
On August 20 2012 11:03 AngryMag wrote: you had individual players insulted (Cruncher for example), but you had never a whole bunch of newcomers belittled because of the race they happen to play. Terran users in 2010. | ||
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