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Chriscras
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2812 Posts
September 04 2012 06:07 GMT
#1781
Did they remove Battlecruiser speed upgrade?
"En taro adun, Executor."
Adonminus
Profile Joined January 2012
Israel543 Posts
September 04 2012 06:08 GMT
#1782
On September 04 2012 14:58 goswser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 14:48 avilo wrote:
On September 04 2012 14:37 goswser wrote:
On September 04 2012 14:32 avilo wrote:
On September 04 2012 13:45 Cedstick wrote:
On September 04 2012 13:40 avilo wrote:
Wait what? I thought they wanted to do things to get rid of the deathball? Adding an idle army button is another way to dumb down the game further and encourages you to just gather up your units...

An FYI, command and conquer has "global select" all units, this is a command and conquer feature meant for "noobs." I doubt pros will use it very often, but still...it's going the wrong direction imo. We will see.

That hotkey is the least of my worries. In fact, it's just simply a welcome convenience to me. Newbs can base their play around it, but anyone Diamond and up won't be using it often.

I'm more worried about the Warhound. Eff that ish.


I disagree. I think Zerg will benefit from it the most/use it the most often, especially when using high numbers of Zerglings that are small and sometimes difficult to select.

Either way, it's quite disappointing to see a "feature" like that being included in the HOTS Beta. Things like that alone show the direction the expansion is headed.

Not to be a negative nancy too much, the game will change a lot of course, and I'm sure there will be more depth, but anything that makes the game "easier" usually is not a good thing.

No, terran will benefit the most. Zerg can hotkey their larva anyways and protoss doesn't need it with warp ins. It really isn't hard to hotkey your units as zerg...


There are situations with Zerg more often than with P/T where you'll have stray lings in mineral lines and you want to just select the lings to get out of your mineral line and not the drones...things like that it'll be useful for Zerg the most because lings are the tiniest tier 1 unit and most difficult to select.

Or the situations where you just made 50-100 zerglings and they are hatching and you either did not hotkey the eggs or have time to and you desperately need to control/double click your lings + box/shift select the rest that are rallying from 4 different hatcheries...it will 100% benefit Zerg the most. Obviously every race will benefit slightly.

No, it will benefit terran more. There is pretty much never a situation where a good zerg has an unhotkeyed ling in their mineral line because whenever they have stray lings in their mineral line they will always be hotkeyed. If you made 50-100 lings and you didn't hotkey the eggs then you're bad. You always have time. As terran it will be far more helpful because you can't hotkey eggs - when units pop out of the barracks, factory, or starport, you normally have to hotkey them all, now you never need to do that.

Why make the other races life easier? Give protoss autocast blink, autocast forcefield, autocast storm and autocast gravity beam. Then we'll be the a move race and use this button more.
Aetherial
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia917 Posts
September 04 2012 06:08 GMT
#1783
On September 04 2012 15:07 Chriscras wrote:
Did they remove Battlecruiser speed upgrade?


Yes they did unfortunately
Chriscras
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2812 Posts
September 04 2012 06:09 GMT
#1784
Bring back burrow baneling movement!!
"En taro adun, Executor."
Adonminus
Profile Joined January 2012
Israel543 Posts
September 04 2012 06:10 GMT
#1785
On September 04 2012 15:09 Chriscras wrote:
Bring back burrow baneling movement!!

As if zerg won't be op enough in hots. Besides what use are burrow banelings against this new terran mech.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8323 Posts
September 04 2012 06:12 GMT
#1786
On September 04 2012 15:07 Chriscras wrote:
Did they remove Battlecruiser speed upgrade?


Yeah
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
September 04 2012 06:19 GMT
#1787
didnt they buff the BCs damage in exchange though?
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17907 Posts
September 04 2012 06:19 GMT
#1788
On September 04 2012 14:32 avilo wrote:
Not to be a negative nancy too much, the game will change a lot of course, and I'm sure there will be more depth, but anything that makes the game "easier" usually is not a good thing.


just because something is very difficult doesn't necessarily make it "fun".
its the beta.. give Blizzard the "artistic freedom" to experiment with new stuff before condemning them.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
September 04 2012 06:21 GMT
#1789
On September 04 2012 12:19 SgtCoDFish wrote:
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On September 04 2012 12:16 Kal_rA wrote:
On September 04 2012 12:13 zhurai wrote:
On September 04 2012 11:53 ELA wrote:
Erhm.. I honestly don't remember seeing this option in the gameplay options menu:

[image loading]

Is that what I think it is? Automatic rally set to mineral field at start of a map? xD

yes it is what you think it is

and I want to facepalm at blizzard

rofllllll as if it wasn't easy enough xD


It's entirely possible that they were having some start-of-game lag issues and this is a way of temporarily making the start equal for everyone so they can test better while the lag is fixed.

Laughing about this and saying "lol blizz" seems pointless

Maybe but the chances of noob friendly reasons are much much much higher
Jaedong.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8323 Posts
September 04 2012 06:22 GMT
#1790
On September 04 2012 15:19 jmbthirteen wrote:
didnt they buff the BCs damage in exchange though?


Vs ground, which really wasn't the issue. It would have been nice if with good control with the redline reactor Vikings couldn't always just endlessly kite the BCs. Not really sure why they increased damage vs ground from eight to ten.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
NATO
Profile Joined April 2010
United States459 Posts
September 04 2012 06:24 GMT
#1791
On September 04 2012 15:10 Adonminus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 15:09 Chriscras wrote:
Bring back burrow baneling movement!!

As if zerg won't be op enough in hots. Besides what use are burrow banelings against this new terran mech.


New terran mech isn't good against zerg though....
stfouri
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland272 Posts
September 04 2012 06:25 GMT
#1792
Niice! Will be playing around reaper openings alot now when they don't require you to upgrade the healing.
Just became that much better against zergs, cause you don't have to worry about taking few hits from the queens.
Kharnage
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia920 Posts
September 04 2012 06:25 GMT
#1793
On September 04 2012 15:22 TheDougler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 15:19 jmbthirteen wrote:
didnt they buff the BCs damage in exchange though?


Vs ground, which really wasn't the issue. It would have been nice if with good control with the redline reactor Vikings couldn't always just endlessly kite the BCs. Not really sure why they increased damage vs ground from eight to ten.


Because marines beat BC
Scila
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1849 Posts
September 04 2012 06:26 GMT
#1794
On September 04 2012 15:22 TheDougler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 15:19 jmbthirteen wrote:
didnt they buff the BCs damage in exchange though?


Vs ground, which really wasn't the issue. It would have been nice if with good control with the redline reactor Vikings couldn't always just endlessly kite the BCs. Not really sure why they increased damage vs ground from eight to ten.


I believe it was 10 in WOL before they nerfed it. BC ground damage was a little weak, so this is actually a good buff.
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
Scila
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1849 Posts
September 04 2012 06:27 GMT
#1795
On September 04 2012 15:25 stfouri wrote:
Niice! Will be playing around reaper openings alot now when they don't require you to upgrade the healing.
Just became that much better against zergs, cause you don't have to worry about taking few hits from the queens.


would be perfect with 3 range queens. :/
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
September 04 2012 06:31 GMT
#1796

17h Husky Husky ‏@HuskyStarcraft

Am supposedly downloading the HotS beta launcher, found on Reddit. Game isn't live yet though. Check back in 8 hours :D


maybe in 8hrs its live?
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
September 04 2012 06:33 GMT
#1797
On September 04 2012 15:31 Za7oX wrote:

17h Husky Husky ‏@HuskyStarcraft

Am supposedly downloading the HotS beta launcher, found on Reddit. Game isn't live yet though. Check back in 8 hours :D


maybe in 8hrs its live?



Does the 17H mean he said that 17 hours ago? If so then no
When I think of something else, something will go here
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-04 06:34:41
September 04 2012 06:33 GMT
#1798
On September 04 2012 15:33 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 15:31 Za7oX wrote:

17h Husky Husky ‏@HuskyStarcraft

Am supposedly downloading the HotS beta launcher, found on Reddit. Game isn't live yet though. Check back in 8 hours :D


maybe in 8hrs its live?



Does the 17H mean he said that 17 hours ago? If so then no

nope, was like 10-20min ago. not sure why my twitter does that
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
CosmoK
Profile Joined July 2011
339 Posts
September 04 2012 06:36 GMT
#1799
Maybe it just means that he's going to sleep now and will try to login again in eight hours.
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
September 04 2012 06:37 GMT
#1800
On September 04 2012 15:36 CosmoK wrote:
Maybe it just means that he's going to sleep now and will try to login again in eight hours.

maybe i am just grasping at straws because i want the BETA!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Stephano//HerO//TaeJa//Squirtle//Bomber
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