EPTdoes anybody know whether there is already a closed beta running or not? Are there people who are already playing or not? What's with all those betas keys given out? Can people already use them or not?
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ucantstopmeno
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does anybody know whether there is already a closed beta running or not? Are there people who are already playing or not? What's with all those betas keys given out? Can people already use them or not? | ||
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wangstra
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On September 04 2012 00:44 Plansix wrote: I know, now protoss will finally have a form of detection that does not require them to get robo, making the Stargate a good opener, rather than a super risky one. All the changes seem ok. Blizzard it just trying stuff out to see how it effects the game. Nothing is permanent. Ah yes in Blizz and your infinite wisdom, if the problem is with an existing unit, create a new one and bandage over the issue. Don't actually address the problem. If the obs is posing too much of an issue locked up in the robo, why not move it to another tech structure? Terrans have a mobile detection unit with several abilities. Does anyone use it? Nope, they'd rather use scans. Why build an obs if you have scans? What distinct purpose does it serve now? | ||
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Tao367
United Kingdom324 Posts
On September 04 2012 01:02 Gooner wrote: Which sources tell you that the progamers will get the beta keys tomorrow? Is it just rumors? Or has it been confirmed by anyone? On other notes I think that the mothership core went from having a real purpose to being totally random. Why can it move? It was so cool when it was going to be attached to the nexi and used simply as a defensive unit. I think that is what Protoss needed, a strong defensive unit. Now all of a sudden it became a semi-imba unit that can cloak other units in offense, but it is no longer very strong as a unit. I'm super confused about that decision. I would also like to know this. | ||
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Atropin
Germany96 Posts
On September 03 2012 20:45 wcr.4fun wrote: they should have removed the infestor along with it. I'm a zerg player and there's literally nothing interesting about the infestor. Not to mention all of it's spells create big problems. In fact they should just make marines melee and then remove every unit except for marines zerglings and zealots | ||
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Lorch
Germany3687 Posts
Liquid ret and his gf tweeted about him getting a key tomorrow, day/hd talked about having keyes/giving them away. | ||
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ETisME
12542 Posts
On September 04 2012 01:01 wcr.4fun wrote: the oracle became even worse from a spectator point of view. Didn't think that was even possible. I can already imagine casters hyping up the oracle harrass: 'OMFG look at that sick entomb!!!!' *crowd cheering* Or 'Is he going to get that pre-ordain off or not!!?? not every spell in the game requires that much focus. it's the situation that makes the casters go hype about some spells. Lifting drones aren't all that OMFG#%$^ but lifting infestors in a huge battle is always worth going excited on I can see the use of entomb being praised by the casters just like how they would for good injects and creep spread. the change in scan is actually pretty useful. you need to know that the scan is very different to obs obs are so much more than just a scan for cloak units, tracking army movement and medavic pathings are other reasons why obs will always be better than scan but a scan ability would let you to have a stargate opening more viable at minimal and I doubt you would be able to mass scan like how terran does it | ||
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Cornix
United States220 Posts
On September 04 2012 01:13 wangstra wrote: Ah yes in Blizz and your infinite wisdom, if the problem is with an existing unit, create a new one and bandage over the issue. Don't actually address the problem. If the obs is posing too much of an issue locked up in the robo, why not move it to another tech structure? Terrans have a mobile detection unit with several abilities. Does anyone use it? Nope, they'd rather use scans. Why build an obs if you have scans? What distinct purpose does it serve now? You're not really understanding this problem. If we move obs to a different tech structure, unless it's somehow the cybernetics core, we just have the same problem with that tech structure, where opening anything else is risky cuz we have no detection available. With this change we can open with either of our two major tech paths and never be in a position wher we're like 'well I want to build this unit so I guess I just pray he doesn't go dt'. Obs will ALWAYS have a usefulness, they are still the best base and army scouts we have by far and will still easily see use in much the same way they have been used. We're just not going to have that 'autodead to cloak banshees or dts or cloak ghosts' effect if we open up nonrobo. | ||
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Tao367
United Kingdom324 Posts
On September 04 2012 01:28 Cornix wrote: You're not really understanding this problem. If we move obs to a different tech structure, unless it's somehow the cybernetics core, we just have the same problem with that tech structure, where opening anything else is risky cuz we have no detection available. With this change we can open with either of our two major tech paths and never be in a position wher we're like 'well I want to build this unit so I guess I just pray he doesn't go dt'. Obs will ALWAYS have a usefulness, they are still the best base and army scouts we have by far and will still easily see use in much the same way they have been used. We're just not going to have that 'autodead to cloak banshees or dts or cloak ghosts' effect if we open up nonrobo. Which is why I suggested moving it to the nexus with a requirement of either a stargate, robo or twilight. | ||
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ProxyTerran
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The rumours are basically only around the removal of the HotS Custom map today. | ||
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Lorch
Germany3687 Posts
On September 04 2012 01:32 ProxyTerran wrote: All the top casters and most pros know that they will get invited. But thats all they know. Its not like Blizz told them exactly when they get their keys. The rumours are basically only around the removal of the HotS Custom map today. Six hours ago, ret's gf twitter: ":DDDDDD im so excited ret is getting a HoTs beta tomorrow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! " | ||
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
On September 03 2012 19:41 Snowbear wrote: Not true. The WOL Beta was not really announced. Tough its release was mentioned in a conference call with activision. Why beta tomorrow: 1) the HOTS custom map was taken down today 2) news from progamers getting keys tomorrow (not a single reason to give keys without releasing it) 3) internally beta started this week. Yah WOL beta release was a complete discovery. They released the beta client and then an announcement was released shortly after. If you trolled the site long enough on that specific day you could DL the client. It took about 4 hours since traffic was so high as well. | ||
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Darpa
Canada4413 Posts
On September 04 2012 00:44 Plansix wrote: I know, now protoss will finally have a form of detection that does not require them to get robo, making the Stargate a good opener, rather than a super risky one. All the changes seem ok. Blizzard it just trying stuff out to see how it effects the game. Nothing is permanent. every other race deals with detection early/mid game by building static defense, protoss just seem against cannons >< I virtually never scan at all aside from 6:30, unless i absolutely have to, because if you scan to much you are way behind income wise since protoss/zerg will almost always have more workers, at least in the early game anyway. | ||
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ProxyTerran
44 Posts
On September 04 2012 01:36 Lorch wrote: Six hours ago, ret's gf twitter: ":DDDDDD im so excited ret is getting a HoTs beta tomorrow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! " Are you stupid or what? Who cares about that? Casters/Pros ARE NOT INFORMED about the Beta-Start! They only know that they will be in beta. THATS ALL! This is just speculation like 99.9% in this thread! User was warned for this post | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20322 Posts
This (leaked, maybe fake, but people were talking about other fake changes) video shows the hydralisk upgrade, Muscular Augments, being a 25% speed upgrade off creep. Hydras are rare in their +50% movespeed on creep, 2.25 to 3.375, and previously, this upgrade gave them that full 3.375 movement speed off creep, but if it has indeed been changed, the effect of the upgrade has been halved, the speed advantage the hydralisk has over colossi, immortals, void rays, most units in general has been halved, and instead of being able to outrun blink stalkers, hydras are now slower than regular stalkers. Why is nobody talking about this? Did people even know the stats of any of the upgrades before? Its a really really big deal. | ||
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acrimoneyius
United States983 Posts
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
On September 04 2012 01:51 ProxyTerran wrote: Are you stupid or what? Who cares about that? Casters/Pros ARE NOT INFORMED about the Beta-Start! They only know that they will be in beta. THATS ALL! This is just speculation like 99.9% in this thread! Unlike 99.9% it is from a well respected pro gamer and contains a date, so it is definitely worth posting in this thread, even if it is still no proof. You should also refrain from insulting other people here, this isn't Reddit. | ||
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Stiluz
Norway688 Posts
On September 04 2012 01:53 Cyro wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsXXkieMURw This (leaked, maybe fake, but people were talking about other fake changes) video shows the hydralisk upgrade, Muscular Augments, being a 25% speed upgrade off creep. Hydras are rare in their +50% movespeed on creep, 2.25 to 3.375, and previously, this upgrade gave them that full 3.375 movement speed off creep, but if it has indeed been changed, the effect of the upgrade has been halved, the speed advantage the hydralisk has over colossi, immortals, void rays, most units in general has been halved, and instead of being able to outrun blink stalkers, hydras are now slower than regular stalkers. Why is nobody talking about this? Did people even know the stats of any of the upgrades before? Its a really really big deal. I'll be extremely disappointed if this is true, no point in using them or getting the upgrade at all in that case. Hydras have had such a small role in WoL, I was really hoping they'd have a place in the game again in HotS. | ||
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MrBitter
United States2940 Posts
On September 04 2012 01:56 ACrow wrote: Unlike 99.9% it is from a well respected pro gamer and contains a date, so it is definitely worth posting in this thread, even if it is still no proof. You should also refrain from insulting other people here, this isn't Reddit. Blizzard has actually given multiple dates. It was set for a couple weeks ago, and was then delayed internally. Little birdy told me when to expect it, but I might get in trouble for telling. So I guess this is mostly just a post to say it'll be very soon, and I'm just as excited as you guys are! | ||
ZeromuS
Canada13389 Posts
On September 04 2012 01:58 Stiluz wrote: I'll be extremely disappointed if this is true, no point in using them or getting the upgrade at all in that case. Hydras have had such a small role in WoL, I was really hoping they'd have a place in the game again in HotS. I don't believe a random chinese upload showing a black background and the unit roles  I will believe it when I see it from a more concrete source. | ||
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TommyP
United States6231 Posts
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