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ucantstopmeno
Profile Joined September 2012
1 Post
September 03 2012 16:07 GMT
#1261
Hi,

does anybody know whether there is already a closed beta running or not? Are there people who are already playing or not? What's with all those betas keys given out? Can people already use them or not?
wangstra
Profile Joined March 2011
922 Posts
September 03 2012 16:13 GMT
#1262
On September 04 2012 00:44 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 00:39 Darpa wrote:
I cant believe protoss get scan and obs now ><


I know, now protoss will finally have a form of detection that does not require them to get robo, making the Stargate a good opener, rather than a super risky one.

All the changes seem ok. Blizzard it just trying stuff out to see how it effects the game. Nothing is permanent.


Ah yes in Blizz and your infinite wisdom, if the problem is with an existing unit, create a new one and bandage over the issue. Don't actually address the problem.

If the obs is posing too much of an issue locked up in the robo, why not move it to another tech structure?

Terrans have a mobile detection unit with several abilities. Does anyone use it? Nope, they'd rather use scans. Why build an obs if you have scans? What distinct purpose does it serve now?
Tao367
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom324 Posts
September 03 2012 16:18 GMT
#1263
On September 04 2012 01:02 Gooner wrote:
Which sources tell you that the progamers will get the beta keys tomorrow? Is it just rumors? Or has it been confirmed by anyone?

On other notes I think that the mothership core went from having a real purpose to being totally random. Why can it move? It was so cool when it was going to be attached to the nexi and used simply as a defensive unit. I think that is what Protoss needed, a strong defensive unit. Now all of a sudden it became a semi-imba unit that can cloak other units in offense, but it is no longer very strong as a unit. I'm super confused about that decision.


I would also like to know this.
Atropin
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany96 Posts
September 03 2012 16:20 GMT
#1264
On September 03 2012 20:45 wcr.4fun wrote:


they should have removed the infestor along with it. I'm a zerg player and there's literally nothing interesting about the infestor.
Not to mention all of it's spells create big problems.




In fact they should just make marines melee and then remove every unit except for marines zerglings and zealots
Wer andern in die Möse beißt ist böse meist
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3690 Posts
September 03 2012 16:24 GMT
#1265
On September 04 2012 01:18 Tao367 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 01:02 Gooner wrote:
Which sources tell you that the progamers will get the beta keys tomorrow? Is it just rumors? Or has it been confirmed by anyone?

On other notes I think that the mothership core went from having a real purpose to being totally random. Why can it move? It was so cool when it was going to be attached to the nexi and used simply as a defensive unit. I think that is what Protoss needed, a strong defensive unit. Now all of a sudden it became a semi-imba unit that can cloak other units in offense, but it is no longer very strong as a unit. I'm super confused about that decision.


I would also like to know this.


Liquid ret and his gf tweeted about him getting a key tomorrow, day/hd talked about having keyes/giving them away.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12676 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-03 16:30:25
September 03 2012 16:25 GMT
#1266
On September 04 2012 01:01 wcr.4fun wrote:
the oracle became even worse from a spectator point of view. Didn't think that was even possible.

I can already imagine casters hyping up the oracle harrass: 'OMFG look at that sick entomb!!!!' *crowd cheering*

Or 'Is he going to get that pre-ordain off or not!!??

not every spell in the game requires that much focus.

it's the situation that makes the casters go hype about some spells. Lifting drones aren't all that OMFG#%$^ but lifting infestors in a huge battle is always worth going excited on
I can see the use of entomb being praised by the casters just like how they would for good injects and creep spread.

the change in scan is actually pretty useful.
you need to know that the scan is very different to obs
obs are so much more than just a scan for cloak units, tracking army movement and medavic pathings are other reasons why obs will always be better than scan

but a scan ability would let you to have a stargate opening more viable at minimal and I doubt you would be able to mass scan like how terran does it
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Cornix
Profile Joined June 2011
United States220 Posts
September 03 2012 16:28 GMT
#1267
On September 04 2012 01:13 wangstra wrote:

Ah yes in Blizz and your infinite wisdom, if the problem is with an existing unit, create a new one and bandage over the issue. Don't actually address the problem.

If the obs is posing too much of an issue locked up in the robo, why not move it to another tech structure?

Terrans have a mobile detection unit with several abilities. Does anyone use it? Nope, they'd rather use scans. Why build an obs if you have scans? What distinct purpose does it serve now?


You're not really understanding this problem. If we move obs to a different tech structure, unless it's somehow the cybernetics core, we just have the same problem with that tech structure, where opening anything else is risky cuz we have no detection available. With this change we can open with either of our two major tech paths and never be in a position wher we're like 'well I want to build this unit so I guess I just pray he doesn't go dt'.

Obs will ALWAYS have a usefulness, they are still the best base and army scouts we have by far and will still easily see use in much the same way they have been used. We're just not going to have that 'autodead to cloak banshees or dts or cloak ghosts' effect if we open up nonrobo.
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Tao367
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom324 Posts
September 03 2012 16:30 GMT
#1268
On September 04 2012 01:28 Cornix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 01:13 wangstra wrote:

Ah yes in Blizz and your infinite wisdom, if the problem is with an existing unit, create a new one and bandage over the issue. Don't actually address the problem.

If the obs is posing too much of an issue locked up in the robo, why not move it to another tech structure?

Terrans have a mobile detection unit with several abilities. Does anyone use it? Nope, they'd rather use scans. Why build an obs if you have scans? What distinct purpose does it serve now?


You're not really understanding this problem. If we move obs to a different tech structure, unless it's somehow the cybernetics core, we just have the same problem with that tech structure, where opening anything else is risky cuz we have no detection available. With this change we can open with either of our two major tech paths and never be in a position wher we're like 'well I want to build this unit so I guess I just pray he doesn't go dt'.

Obs will ALWAYS have a usefulness, they are still the best base and army scouts we have by far and will still easily see use in much the same way they have been used. We're just not going to have that 'autodead to cloak banshees or dts or cloak ghosts' effect if we open up nonrobo.


Which is why I suggested moving it to the nexus with a requirement of either a stargate, robo or twilight.
ProxyTerran
Profile Joined August 2012
44 Posts
September 03 2012 16:32 GMT
#1269
All the top casters and most pros know that they will get invited. But thats all they know. Its not like Blizz told them exactly when they get their keys.
The rumours are basically only around the removal of the HotS Custom map today.
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3690 Posts
September 03 2012 16:36 GMT
#1270
On September 04 2012 01:32 ProxyTerran wrote:
All the top casters and most pros know that they will get invited. But thats all they know. Its not like Blizz told them exactly when they get their keys.
The rumours are basically only around the removal of the HotS Custom map today.


Six hours ago, ret's gf twitter:
":DDDDDD im so excited ret is getting a HoTs beta tomorrow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "

Amber[LighT]
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States5078 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-03 16:41:00
September 03 2012 16:39 GMT
#1271
On September 03 2012 19:41 Snowbear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2012 19:36 myRZeth wrote:
On September 03 2012 19:33 Snowbear wrote:
On September 03 2012 19:18 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On September 03 2012 19:07 myRZeth wrote:
BETA COMING TOMORROW
https://twitter.com/PandiiStarcraft

LIQUID RET WILL GET A KEY TOMORROW


ret will get a key tomorrow =/= beta is tomorrow.

some people at PAX got the beta key yesterday.


I remember that the WOL beta went live when people started to receive beta keys, so the chances that the beta will start tomorrow, are really really high imo.


but i think they would have announced it


Not true. The WOL Beta was not really announced. Tough its release was mentioned in a conference call with activision.

Why beta tomorrow:
1) the HOTS custom map was taken down today
2) news from progamers getting keys tomorrow (not a single reason to give keys without releasing it)
3) internally beta started this week.


Yah WOL beta release was a complete discovery. They released the beta client and then an announcement was released shortly after. If you trolled the site long enough on that specific day you could DL the client. It took about 4 hours since traffic was so high as well.
"We have unfinished business, I and he."
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-03 16:43:45
September 03 2012 16:43 GMT
#1272
On September 04 2012 00:44 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 00:39 Darpa wrote:
I cant believe protoss get scan and obs now ><


I know, now protoss will finally have a form of detection that does not require them to get robo, making the Stargate a good opener, rather than a super risky one.

All the changes seem ok. Blizzard it just trying stuff out to see how it effects the game. Nothing is permanent.



every other race deals with detection early/mid game by building static defense, protoss just seem against cannons ><

I virtually never scan at all aside from 6:30, unless i absolutely have to, because if you scan to much you are way behind income wise since protoss/zerg will almost always have more workers, at least in the early game anyway.
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
ProxyTerran
Profile Joined August 2012
44 Posts
September 03 2012 16:51 GMT
#1273
On September 04 2012 01:36 Lorch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 01:32 ProxyTerran wrote:
All the top casters and most pros know that they will get invited. But thats all they know. Its not like Blizz told them exactly when they get their keys.
The rumours are basically only around the removal of the HotS Custom map today.


Six hours ago, ret's gf twitter:
":DDDDDD im so excited ret is getting a HoTs beta tomorrow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "



Are you stupid or what? Who cares about that? Casters/Pros ARE NOT INFORMED about the Beta-Start! They only know that they will be in beta. THATS ALL!
This is just speculation like 99.9% in this thread!

User was warned for this post
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20323 Posts
September 03 2012 16:53 GMT
#1274


This (leaked, maybe fake, but people were talking about other fake changes) video shows the hydralisk upgrade, Muscular Augments, being a 25% speed upgrade off creep.

Hydras are rare in their +50% movespeed on creep, 2.25 to 3.375, and previously, this upgrade gave them that full 3.375 movement speed off creep, but if it has indeed been changed, the effect of the upgrade has been halved, the speed advantage the hydralisk has over colossi, immortals, void rays, most units in general has been halved, and instead of being able to outrun blink stalkers, hydras are now slower than regular stalkers.

Why is nobody talking about this? Did people even know the stats of any of the upgrades before? Its a really really big deal.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
acrimoneyius
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States983 Posts
September 03 2012 16:53 GMT
#1275
If they seriously removed cloak field from oracle..I am sorely disappointed. There is so much micro potential with that ability, not to mention the flexibility of use. They could have lowered the range and/or duration if they thought it was overpowered.
ACrow
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6583 Posts
September 03 2012 16:56 GMT
#1276
On September 04 2012 01:51 ProxyTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 01:36 Lorch wrote:
On September 04 2012 01:32 ProxyTerran wrote:
All the top casters and most pros know that they will get invited. But thats all they know. Its not like Blizz told them exactly when they get their keys.
The rumours are basically only around the removal of the HotS Custom map today.


Six hours ago, ret's gf twitter:
":DDDDDD im so excited ret is getting a HoTs beta tomorrow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "



Are you stupid or what? Who cares about that? Casters/Pros ARE NOT INFORMED about the Beta-Start! They only know that they will be in beta. THATS ALL!
This is just speculation like 99.9% in this thread!

Unlike 99.9% it is from a well respected pro gamer and contains a date, so it is definitely worth posting in this thread, even if it is still no proof.
You should also refrain from insulting other people here, this isn't Reddit.
Get off my lawn, young punks
Stiluz
Profile Joined October 2010
Norway688 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-03 16:59:17
September 03 2012 16:58 GMT
#1277
On September 04 2012 01:53 Cyro wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsXXkieMURw

This (leaked, maybe fake, but people were talking about other fake changes) video shows the hydralisk upgrade, Muscular Augments, being a 25% speed upgrade off creep.

Hydras are rare in their +50% movespeed on creep, 2.25 to 3.375, and previously, this upgrade gave them that full 3.375 movement speed off creep, but if it has indeed been changed, the effect of the upgrade has been halved, the speed advantage the hydralisk has over colossi, immortals, void rays, most units in general has been halved, and instead of being able to outrun blink stalkers, hydras are now slower than regular stalkers.

Why is nobody talking about this? Did people even know the stats of any of the upgrades before? Its a really really big deal.


I'll be extremely disappointed if this is true, no point in using them or getting the upgrade at all in that case. Hydras have had such a small role in WoL, I was really hoping they'd have a place in the game again in HotS.
MrBitter
Profile Joined January 2008
United States2940 Posts
September 03 2012 17:00 GMT
#1278
On September 04 2012 01:56 ACrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 01:51 ProxyTerran wrote:
On September 04 2012 01:36 Lorch wrote:
On September 04 2012 01:32 ProxyTerran wrote:
All the top casters and most pros know that they will get invited. But thats all they know. Its not like Blizz told them exactly when they get their keys.
The rumours are basically only around the removal of the HotS Custom map today.


Six hours ago, ret's gf twitter:
":DDDDDD im so excited ret is getting a HoTs beta tomorrow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "



Are you stupid or what? Who cares about that? Casters/Pros ARE NOT INFORMED about the Beta-Start! They only know that they will be in beta. THATS ALL!
This is just speculation like 99.9% in this thread!

Unlike 99.9% it is from a well respected pro gamer and contains a date, so it is definitely worth posting in this thread, even if it is still no proof.
You should also refrain from insulting other people here, this isn't Reddit.


Blizzard has actually given multiple dates. It was set for a couple weeks ago, and was then delayed internally.

Little birdy told me when to expect it, but I might get in trouble for telling.

So I guess this is mostly just a post to say it'll be very soon, and I'm just as excited as you guys are!
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13391 Posts
September 03 2012 17:01 GMT
#1279
On September 04 2012 01:58 Stiluz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2012 01:53 Cyro wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsXXkieMURw

This (leaked, maybe fake, but people were talking about other fake changes) video shows the hydralisk upgrade, Muscular Augments, being a 25% speed upgrade off creep.

Hydras are rare in their +50% movespeed on creep, 2.25 to 3.375, and previously, this upgrade gave them that full 3.375 movement speed off creep, but if it has indeed been changed, the effect of the upgrade has been halved, the speed advantage the hydralisk has over colossi, immortals, void rays, most units in general has been halved, and instead of being able to outrun blink stalkers, hydras are now slower than regular stalkers.

Why is nobody talking about this? Did people even know the stats of any of the upgrades before? Its a really really big deal.


I'll be extremely disappointed if this is true, no point in using them or getting the upgrade at all in that case. Hydras have had such a small role in WoL, I was really hoping they'd have a place in the game again in HotS.


I don't believe a random chinese upload showing a black background and the unit roles

I will believe it when I see it from a more concrete source.
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
September 03 2012 17:01 GMT
#1280
Whoa whoa whoa hold up. You are telling me that tomorrow I get to watch Code S, OSL and streams of pros playing HoTS? This is better than christmas.
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