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Eruism
Profile Joined December 2011
United States312 Posts
June 06 2012 12:41 GMT
#101
On June 06 2012 21:38 NoGasfOu wrote:
You just have to blame foreign tournament hosts like MLG and IPL. If they don't pay airplane tickets and hotel for Korean players, they wouldn't risk paying 2k each and fly half way around the world over here to compete. Maybe coach Lee would send a couple players over, plus MC, that's it. If you don't want heavy number of Koreans in the tournaments, just tell those organizations! no just shouting out to nowhere.

They pay the tickets for Koreans to come to these events because it gives the tournament legitimacy. A tournament just filled with a bunch of foreigners doesn't carry any weight to it, and less people will watch contrary to what the OP believes.
PartinG MarineKing Mvp Polt Keen ByuN <3
Calis5
Profile Joined May 2012
26 Posts
June 06 2012 12:42 GMT
#102
On June 06 2012 21:39 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 21:33 Calis5 wrote:
Its people like the OP that gets terran nerfed (the objectively hardest race played by the best koreans) and Protoss/Zerg buffed (the go to choice for foreigners because you can just a-move)


How did you manage to insert a balance whine in this thread ? Seriously you're a genius :D

I'm completely serious, blizzard balances terran around the likes of MKP and MVP and blizzard balances zerg/protoss around NA 'pros'
antilyon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Brazil2546 Posts
June 06 2012 12:42 GMT
#103
The only thing you can do is change the qualification system to give spots based on region, but I don't think this would be very good idea, if 4 top koreans qualify to pool play, it's 80% guaranteed they'll take all top 3 spots. It would be last year all over again and what's the difference between now and then if the top 3 are the same?
Foreigners don't have the same structure and even the few who do, doesn't practice enough or isn't good enough.

I don't want SC2 to end up like BW, closed to South Korea only, but it seems to be what's happening.
nooboon
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2602 Posts
June 06 2012 12:43 GMT
#104
On June 06 2012 21:14 marcesr wrote:
...
How does MLG ever want to present their product to a larger audience if its all about Random Korean 1 who likes noodles and plays all day against Random Korean 2 who likes noodles and plays all day? (Sorry for the polemical phrases but im quite disappointed.)


Really are we now insulting our great overlords? If foreigners want to compete on the same level of koreans (talking mostly about the pros here) then they have to play SC2 as if their lives depended on it.
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
June 06 2012 12:43 GMT
#105
On June 06 2012 21:41 mTwTT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 21:37 Dissonance23 wrote:
On June 06 2012 21:17 Naniwa wrote:
On June 06 2012 21:16 Hassybaby wrote:
Damn people who practice the game more winning!

Right?



foreigners dont have same conditions as the koreans shut your mouth if you just jump on the bandwagon response


You mean the foreigners are just worse than the Koreans? The only people the foreigners can blame for being behind is theirselves, if they worked harder they would play better.


you can practice as much as you want but if you dont have alot of high level players to discuss the game with you wont improve as fast as other players


Considering that MMA and others on SlayerS said that Thorzain is one of the best people to talk about the game with, why is that a problem? Are there really not enough high level foreigners that can throw ideas and strategies off eachother, or do they just not do so?
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ES.Genie
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1370 Posts
June 06 2012 12:43 GMT
#106
On June 06 2012 21:40 WallieP wrote:

Ps: People calling this topic racism and asking for a close of this topic, get a life!

People asking for a limited number of Koreans at major tournaments, get a life! See what I did there?
No Mvp, no care. ~ the King will be back | Shawn Ray, Kevin Levrone, Phil Heath |
antilyon
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Brazil2546 Posts
June 06 2012 12:44 GMT
#107
On June 06 2012 21:42 Calis5 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 21:39 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
On June 06 2012 21:33 Calis5 wrote:
Its people like the OP that gets terran nerfed (the objectively hardest race played by the best koreans) and Protoss/Zerg buffed (the go to choice for foreigners because you can just a-move)


How did you manage to insert a balance whine in this thread ? Seriously you're a genius :D

I'm completely serious, blizzard balances terran around the likes of MKP and MVP and blizzard balances zerg/protoss around NA 'pros'

While I don't agree with your balance whining, I somewhat agree with your view on Blizzard :p
namste
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland2292 Posts
June 06 2012 12:44 GMT
#108
On June 06 2012 21:29 mTwTT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 21:19 Hassybaby wrote:
On June 06 2012 21:17 Naniwa wrote:
On June 06 2012 21:16 Hassybaby wrote:
Damn people who practice the game more winning!

Right?



foreigners dont have same conditions as the koreans shut your mouth if you just jump on the bandwagon response


The EG, fnatic and TL houses would like to disagree


LOL yes the EG house, top notch practice on the na ladder
and tl + fnatic dont have nearly as many practice partners as the other korean teams do


All this stuff points to the team management. How about the management steps up their game and actually creates practice partner contacts with other teams and people. :p
IM hwaitiing ~ IMMvp #1 | Bang Min Ah <3<3
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10045 Posts
June 06 2012 12:45 GMT
#109
On June 06 2012 21:43 zefreak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 21:41 mTwTT1 wrote:
On June 06 2012 21:37 Dissonance23 wrote:
On June 06 2012 21:17 Naniwa wrote:
On June 06 2012 21:16 Hassybaby wrote:
Damn people who practice the game more winning!

Right?



foreigners dont have same conditions as the koreans shut your mouth if you just jump on the bandwagon response


You mean the foreigners are just worse than the Koreans? The only people the foreigners can blame for being behind is theirselves, if they worked harder they would play better.


you can practice as much as you want but if you dont have alot of high level players to discuss the game with you wont improve as fast as other players


Considering that MMA and others on SlayerS said that Thorzain is one of the best people to talk about the game with, why is that a problem? Are there really not enough high level foreigners that can throw ideas and strategies off eachother, or do they just not do so?


yea im sure thorzain got into alot of in depth game analysis with the slayers players, pls dude. u can talk to them about strategies but only at a very basic level
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
sVnteen
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2238 Posts
June 06 2012 12:45 GMT
#110
SOCKE, GRUBBY AND STEPHANO FTW
MY LIFE STARTS NOW ♥
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
June 06 2012 12:45 GMT
#111
You can always watch IEM instead

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Haustka
Profile Joined August 2010
United States221 Posts
June 06 2012 12:46 GMT
#112
lol i love this kind of thread, but come on guys T.T let Koreans get their fame while they can, there are going to tons of countless players from all over the world to challenge Koreans in near future

Power of Human Will
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
June 06 2012 12:46 GMT
#113
You dont have to watch or play sc2 you know. This problem you claim has been here since the beginning and will never change
WallieP
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands425 Posts
June 06 2012 12:46 GMT
#114
On June 06 2012 21:43 ES.Genie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2012 21:40 WallieP wrote:

Ps: People calling this topic racism and asking for a close of this topic, get a life!

People asking for a limited number of Koreans at major tournaments, get a life! See what I did there?

I see what you tried yes, but you failed. Talking about racism in a topic/conversation like this is just out of proportion.
i came i saw i conquered
Doctorasul
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Romania1145 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-06 13:20:56
June 06 2012 12:46 GMT
#115
You want fairy tales, soap operas and circus theatrics: giant vs albino, one-armed vs one-eyed, black vs trans-gendered, midget vs morbidly obese. Why are you trying to make a real competition into a spectacle? Let serious tournaments do what they do best: separate the best from the rest.
"I believe in Spinoza's god who reveals himself in the harmony of all that exists, but not in a god who concerns himself with the fate and actions of human beings." - Albert Einstein
Emix_Squall
Profile Joined February 2012
France705 Posts
June 06 2012 12:46 GMT
#116
On June 06 2012 21:28 Maxquatre wrote:
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On June 06 2012 21:25 JebOfArabia wrote:
Esports is a global phenomenon played on a global stage. Koreans are the best. Limiting the number of Koreans at foreign tournaments would end up creating a kiddy league for foreigners while the grownups duke it out in Seoul. No thanks. Korean teams are much better established and financially flush. Foreign players and team will get better as esports grows in NA and EU.


Look at the LoL scene, its success also come from the fact they can see much more western countries teams rather than 8 team out of 10 being korean.


Not at all, it's success comes from the fact that Riot's been injecting thousands and thousands of dollars to CREATE eSports in it's game during the first year and a half.

What would fit your demonstration more would be DOTA (first or second, that's not the point) which has been a game where several teams from all over the world competed on equal footage for many years (until the Chinese dominance started, and still, great EU and NA teams were able to match them very ofter).

Polygamy
Profile Joined January 2010
Austria1114 Posts
June 06 2012 12:46 GMT
#117
I know its kind of silly but I really lose interest in events once it becomes a pool of only Koreans.
Horseballs
Profile Joined July 2011
United States721 Posts
June 06 2012 12:46 GMT
#118
So what if foreigners don't have the same conditions as Korean teams? If they truly want to be the best players, then by all means they should go out there and make those conditions for themselves. Yes, it will be hard, but if you want to be the best you will have a hard road anyway. Otherwise, don't complain about Korean loaded tournaments.
MetalSlug
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany443 Posts
June 06 2012 12:47 GMT
#119
This shit again ?

Koreans deserv to be there because they are the better players.
I can relate to most koreans more than i can relate to some random foreigner i never heard of and that has no achievments what so ever.
I dont like players from my country, i like players who play Starcraft II really really well and that, for me, is not foreigners but players like MC MKP MVP DRG. I dont get excited when i see random foreigners in a tournament that got there because they were seeded. It actually bores me to death to see foreigner play.
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Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6120 Posts
June 06 2012 12:47 GMT
#120
I don't wanna see crappy foreigners.

It devalues the integrity of the tournament.
#1 Terran hater
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