EPT> Koreans practice all day every day to become better than everyone else
> Foreigners who practice less lose to them
> Ban the Koreans, they are working too hard! ESPORTS!
Stop the Korean Invasion! - Page 5
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
> Koreans practice all day every day to become better than everyone else > Foreigners who practice less lose to them > Ban the Koreans, they are working too hard! ESPORTS! | ||
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Corsica
Ukraine1854 Posts
On June 06 2012 21:25 DwD wrote: And that's the koreans fault? .. Lol for myself I'd rather watch the best players than having a charity event for bad foreigners Nope, thats how world works some get good gamers, some get oil some weapons, some good footballers. | ||
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Cinim
Denmark866 Posts
On June 06 2012 21:22 Corsica wrote: Koreans can play the game for the whole day, most of the foreigners have to study/work and dont have good infrastructure. So does most Koreans... Koreans can practice way more, but not because of their studies. | ||
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zefreak
United States2731 Posts
On June 06 2012 21:35 Cyberonic wrote: I wrote a blog entry about this matter and what I think is really the problem with Korean dominance: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=342874 The problem is with you, not the tournament. It's not MLG's fault you are just another braindead sports fan who only cares about rooting for the home team. | ||
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Klonere
Ireland4123 Posts
On June 06 2012 21:27 Flayer. wrote: can you elaborate this, since you have the first hand experience? we see EG Lair and other houses' conditions. what are the differences that they don't have? i think the living conditions that foreigner houses have are usually of a higher standard than Korean teamhouses, even though most of the important Korean teams have reasonable accommodation. What Nani is talking about, I think, is that Koreans have several advantages simply by being in Korea and speaking Korean. A) Access to high skilled, experienced coaches. All of the big SC2 Korean teams have coaches that are often ex BW coaches as well as being high masters SC2 players. These coaches know how to formulate new strategies, search for proper practice partners, identify weaknesses in opponents and create training regimes for the entire house as well as looking after everything else. B) Extreme population density. All the major Korean SC2 teams live within around a ~4 hour radius of each other (I think). They can get to and from GOM easily and have access to each other and the talent pool within Seoul and Korea in a very short distance. Additionally the concentration of high skilled, professional players on Korean ladder makes it infinitely better training than any other comparable ladder as well as being an amazing resource for finding appropriate practices partners. C) The BW legacy. Koreans in SC2 have all had some sort of exposure to the BW scene in Korea. Whether they are ex-BW pros, semi-pro players or just fans, they all have some sort of knowledge of the scene. BW had the highest level of professionalism in any esport ever, meaning that these SC2 pros know inherently how to 'be' a pro due to having native role models to follow. Futhermore, having the BW legacy makes pursuing a progaming career that much more acceptable (although not as widely accepted as we would like to think). Ergo it is ok for guys like Maru and Creator to skip out school to practice and participate. It makes it easier for the unknowns in the scene to rise up and train really hard, not having to concentrate on much else (even those who have to find success, ie Polt) | ||
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Douillos
France3195 Posts
HOW COME THIS IS STILL OPEN? ITS A DISGRACE ON THIS WEBSITE!!! | ||
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Dissonance23
United States259 Posts
On June 06 2012 21:17 Naniwa wrote: foreigners dont have same conditions as the koreans  shut your mouth if you just jump on the bandwagon responseYou mean the foreigners are just worse than the Koreans? The only people the foreigners can blame for being behind is theirselves, if they worked harder they would play better. | ||
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TheUltimate
82 Posts
And frankly I think your characterisation of Koreans of all being the same (eating noodles and playing a lot) is simply racist - if you bother to get involved in the Korean scene at all you'll notice all of their attitudes, playstyles and behaviour is almost as varied as the westerners - though it lacks some of the BM. There are still rivalries, storylines, Just because you can't tell them apart doesn't mean others can't. Finally, if we did restrict the number of Koreans, wouldn't that simply make an MLG win meaningless? "XXX won MLG, but that doesn't mean anything cause half the qualified top-tier players weren't allowed to compete." The foreign scene will take another few years to reach Korean standards, perhaps, but eventually it'll happen, and segregating the Koreans won't help speed things up. | ||
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Wildmoon
Thailand4189 Posts
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NoGasfOu
United States1117 Posts
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ExceeD_DreaM
Canada500 Posts
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Dumbledore
Sweden725 Posts
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Lukeeze[zR]
Switzerland6838 Posts
On June 06 2012 21:33 Calis5 wrote: Its people like the OP that gets terran nerfed (the objectively hardest race played by the best koreans) and Protoss/Zerg buffed (the go to choice for foreigners because you can just a-move) How did you manage to insert a balance whine in this thread ? Seriously you're a genius :D | ||
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Dingobloo
Australia1903 Posts
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zefreak
United States2731 Posts
On June 06 2012 21:38 ExceeD_DreaM wrote: Naniwa, maybe you should have posted that on your first comment. You were very vague and uninformative. Calling people 13 year olds because they disagree with you? I expected better and more mature comment after past incident... I see nothing has changed. Why would you expect anything different? He is one of the most childish progamers in the scene (and one of the best). He is extremely paranoid and has a persecution complex, which is why he freaks out when he loses and thinks all the koreans are out to get him. | ||
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m0ck
4194 Posts
But it will hurt the ability to have these tournaments in the first place. | ||
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Maxquatre
France493 Posts
On June 06 2012 21:35 LimitSEA wrote: Don't act like you're speaking for all foreigners. If this thread shows anything, it's that most foreigners support good players/teams over a "foreigner" tag. Maybe you prefer a team you can relate to because they're not Korean, but that doesn't mean all foreigners do. We'll see that in time because it's pretty much written that next year, we'll have like 90% of people competing in MLG and tourney like that being not foreigners, due to Kespa. I wonder how much the number of people watching will increase/decrease. Except for the hype at the beginning with BW stars. | ||
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WallieP
Netherlands425 Posts
Ps: People calling this topic racism and asking for a close of this topic, get a life! | ||
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Netsky
Australia1155 Posts
If people are genuinely concerned about Korean dominance, just like in traditional sports there is separation of men and women in to different leagues and tournaments, the same can be applied in Starcraft with Koreans and foreigners. | ||
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TT1
Canada10012 Posts
On June 06 2012 21:37 Dissonance23 wrote: You mean the foreigners are just worse than the Koreans? The only people the foreigners can blame for being behind is theirselves, if they worked harder they would play better. you can practice as much as you want but if you dont have alot of high level players to discuss the game with you wont improve as fast as other players | ||
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