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On June 06 2012 21:23 Jinsho wrote:
It's not fun to watch Koreans. I have no interest in any of them. That would change if I knew anything at all about their history or their person, but I'm not learning Korean just for that and certainly not making the effort just because they play the game better. I'm just a guy who likes to watch the players play rather than the game itself.
You realise you don't have to learn Korean to learn about their history or their person. I know most Korean personalities than I do foreign and I don't speak a word of Korean.
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On June 06 2012 21:27 Flayer. wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2012 21:17 Naniwa wrote:On June 06 2012 21:16 Hassybaby wrote:
Damn people who practice the game more winning!
Right? foreigners dont have same conditions as the koreans  shut your mouth if you just jump on the bandwagon response can you elaborate this, since you have the first hand experience? we see EG Lair and other houses' conditions. what are the differences that they don't have?
Personally I thought the EG Lair actually looked better than the Slayers house... meh
@OP, comeon, this topic has been beaten to the death already. Simply put, Koreans are better because they train harder...
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On June 06 2012 21:25 JebOfArabia wrote:
Esports is a global phenomenon played on a global stage. Koreans are the best. Limiting the number of Koreans at foreign tournaments would end up creating a kiddy league for foreigners while the grownups duke it out in Seoul. No thanks. Korean teams are much better established and financially flush. Foreign players and team will get better as esports grows in NA and EU.
Look at the LoL scene, its success also come from the fact they can see much more western countries teams rather than 8 team out of 10 being korean.
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yeah.....
i really hope you get banned for that random korean who like noodles comment, its a disgrace.
also, your entire post is stupid, tournaments without koreans exist, they just have really bad play. im fairly sure that at MLG there is also going to be the WCS american qualifiers or some thing, so you have no reason to complain about anything, except that it will be awful to watch
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Two scenarios:
More realistic : It will go to semi BW state, Korea vs Korea with quite ok foreigner following but in the end completely unfeasible business for western scene in the long run.
Optimistic : Korea vs Korea , but huge foreigner crowd following it.
At least everything point toward that.
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This idea behind this topic is embarrassing. We have to discriminate against Koreans AND knock down the competition level of the biggest LANs in America? (Not counting IPL ofc) Cmon man that's just sad.
I don't think anyone really minds it when Koreans win when they're familiar with the player. MC, MKP, MMA, MVP, Hero, Taeja are some players that come immediately to my head that a lot of people would love to watch.
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On June 06 2012 21:17 Naniwa wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2012 21:16 Hassybaby wrote:
Damn people who practice the game more winning!
Right? foreigners dont have same conditions as the koreans shut your mouth if you just jump on the bandwagon response
well you practice alot (maybe more than the koreans) but you looked like shit compared to MvP ... so i think its a brain thing maybe you should try to get smarter (what i dont thing you gonna be ever because of your attitude) and then talk about "conditions"...
Ban Koreans from Tournaments = No Competition and Entertaining
User was temp banned for this post.
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On June 06 2012 21:19 Hassybaby wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2012 21:17 Naniwa wrote:On June 06 2012 21:16 Hassybaby wrote:
Damn people who practice the game more winning!
Right? foreigners dont have same conditions as the koreans shut your mouth if you just jump on the bandwagon response The EG, fnatic and TL houses would like to disagree
LOL yes the EG house, top notch practice on the na ladder
and tl + fnatic dont have nearly as many practice partners as the other korean teams do
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The integrity of the competition shouldn't be affected just to suit people who only follow non-koreans. Sure, have foreign-only leagues or an invite system with only a small number of koreans, but if you want to be considered a premier tournament you can't do that. There are enough tournaments out there right now that there can be both, but MLG wants to be THE premier tournament (outside GSL) and they aren't going to be that if they handicap players by their nationality.
And Naniwa, stop making excuses and being passive aggressive . It's quite immature . DUCY?
After all, people in Africa don't have the training infrastructure that people do in Sweden, what are you going to do about it? Limit the number of Swedes allowed in events because they are crowding out Africans?
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On June 06 2012 21:23 Gosi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2012 21:17 Naniwa wrote:On June 06 2012 21:16 Hassybaby wrote:
Damn people who practice the game more winning!
Right? foreigners dont have same conditions as the koreans shut your mouth if you just jump on the bandwagon response What does this have to do with anything? So koreans shouldn't practice as much because foreigners can't keep up and it isn't fair or what is your point?
i write my opinion then i stop posting,
1. 99% of all practice replays with any korean players will be leaked if ur a foreigner unless ur in the same team
2. They will always prioritize korean players over foreign players even if they are in other teams. ( Korean pride )
3. Its not the same outside korea because there is so few good players and no teamhouses in the same way.. the eg house is in america and its the only one there which makes it useless in terms of getting better practice than sitting at home.
these are just my experiences. ladder is still good practice but not optimal
just letting of some steam i guess . have fun 12 year old fans whos comments i wont be reading!
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Some people, apparently, prefer to watch games of lesser skill so long as its a white guy behind the monitor.
Why this is, is beyond me.
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Koreans are better in terms of skill, so they are more deserving and they show better games. -Most people's logic
I like white dudes with personality even if they suck, fuck those high skilled koreans. -Vocal minority
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On June 06 2012 21:23 Jinsho wrote:
It's not fun to watch Koreans. I have no interest in any of them. That would change if I knew anything at all about their history or their person, but I'm not learning Korean just for that and certainly not making the effort just because they play the game better. I'm just a guy who likes to watch the players play rather than the game itself.
Like you have to learn korean to know the history or te personality of the koreans players.
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On June 06 2012 21:28 Maxquatre wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2012 21:25 JebOfArabia wrote:
Esports is a global phenomenon played on a global stage. Koreans are the best. Limiting the number of Koreans at foreign tournaments would end up creating a kiddy league for foreigners while the grownups duke it out in Seoul. No thanks. Korean teams are much better established and financially flush. Foreign players and team will get better as esports grows in NA and EU. Look at the LoL scene, its success also come from the fact they can see much more western countries teams rather than 8 team out of 10 being korean.
That has little to nothing to do with LoL's success. I'm not going to get into it here, but it's more thanks to the style of game and it's appeal to more casual players. Don't even try and use that as an excuse to ban Koreans from MLG, you'll just look silly.
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On June 06 2012 21:14 marcesr wrote:
How does MLG ever want to present their product to a larger audience if its all about Random Korean 1 who likes noodles and plays all day against Random Korean 2 who likes noodles and plays all day? (Sorry for the polemical phrases but im quite disappointed.)
Anyways, I dont know why this is still open with the OP using very borderline expressions to describe Koreans. Noodle eating whatever? Come on just cause your a fat german drinking beer and eating wurst and schnitzels all day doesnt mean you need to be hurtful
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On June 06 2012 21:23 Gosi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2012 21:17 Naniwa wrote:On June 06 2012 21:16 Hassybaby wrote:
Damn people who practice the game more winning!
Right? foreigners dont have same conditions as the koreans shut your mouth if you just jump on the bandwagon response What does this have to do with anything? So koreans shouldn't practice as much because foreigners can't keep up and it isn't fair or what is your point?
Pretty big tangent that you just drew.
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On June 06 2012 21:27 Flayer. wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2012 21:17 Naniwa wrote:On June 06 2012 21:16 Hassybaby wrote:
Damn people who practice the game more winning!
Right? foreigners dont have same conditions as the koreans shut your mouth if you just jump on the bandwagon response can you elaborate this, since you have the first hand experience? we see EG Lair and other houses' conditions. what are the differences that they don't have?
It's the lack of quality practice partners. Compare the calibre of players in the EG house to the calibre of players in the IM house
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On June 06 2012 21:28 Maxquatre wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2012 21:25 JebOfArabia wrote:
Esports is a global phenomenon played on a global stage. Koreans are the best. Limiting the number of Koreans at foreign tournaments would end up creating a kiddy league for foreigners while the grownups duke it out in Seoul. No thanks. Korean teams are much better established and financially flush. Foreign players and team will get better as esports grows in NA and EU. Look at the LoL scene, its success also come from the fact they can see much more western countries teams rather than 8 team out of 10 being korean.
No, its extremely successful becuase it is f2p and very easy to get into. The Koreans are already beginning to dominate western teams.
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stopping korean players coming to big events would be like watching division 1 football instead of the premiership.
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I don't care where players are from, I care who they are.
To be honest this whole foreigner vs korean thing means nothing to me, and never has. People on TL keep trying to impress upon me that I should be rooting for foreigners over koreans most of the time.
I don't get that. I understand national pride and all, but it's not even national pride 90% of the time, it's the "foreigner" tag. I mean I'll cheer if Moonglade represents australia, but why should I support European#1523 over SouthKorean#1555?
Sorry people, I don't care for players because they can adopt a foreigner tag. I care when they're interesting in both play and personality. Being born somewhere doesn't make them interesting.
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