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Akasha
United States261 Posts
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On May 04 2012 17:24 Alkajak wrote: I see that you've removed all the incriminating links of the TL mods breaking their own rules. Which of our own rules did TL mods break? Is there a rule on this site that states that you cannot use the word "retarded?" | ||
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Boiler Bandsman
United States391 Posts
On May 04 2012 17:26 FairForever wrote: Then the issue isn't that Destiny didn't apologize. It's bigger than that - that he still doesn't understand why using those words is unacceptable in general. If you do that and get beaten, both of you are in the wrong. He should have taken other steps while avoiding violence, and you should not have used it. In this case I think Warden did the right thing. What if I called him a mother f*****g b**** coward? Is that somehow not as bad? Why should we treat it differently? All that does is empower two types of people: attention whores and actual racists. | ||
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Nihilnovi
Sweden696 Posts
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Deleted User 124618
1142 Posts
On May 04 2012 17:24 Xenogears wrote: Worthless racist.. It's ok to insult people, be rude and demeaning to them, as long as it doesn't include the N-word? I'm of course talking about certain players and their attitudes that the gaming community tolerates. | ||
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TheDraken
United States640 Posts
On May 04 2012 17:14 jmbthirteen wrote: Ok, I'm sick of this bull shit excuse that words are just words. If you are going to say this, then why are you using "nigger" and "gook" as an insult? Because you know exactly what those words mean and where they come from. You are using them in a derogatory fashion, the same way that those words are used by a racist. You know damn well that you are being insulting with those words. You can't sit there and say words are words and you aren't using them as a racist, when you use them to put the person down the same way racists do. there seems to be this movement to go back to the "true" meaning of an insult, and i don't really understand why people are doing it. and excellent example is the word fag. it recently wasn't such an insulting word. you'd call someone being a moron a fag or a faggot and they wouldn't get much offended over it. but now we have people going around trying to get people to stop it just because the origin of the word is associated with burning gays. now people flip shit when you say fag out in public simply because some people chose to make it an issue. the word retarded. as you've seen in this thread people are shitting themselves over a mod saying it. i've seen shirts with people trying to "spread the word to end the word". it's like everyone has some fucking oppressed group they represent and they're trying to get the world to tiptoe around offending them. you mentioned the word nigger. i don't think you realize people use the word as a catch-all insult similar to "fucker" or "faggot". within communities like destiny's, the word barely has a racial connotation. but then overly sensitive wimps will bust down the community from the outside just because they want to tie the word back to racism. it's fucking stupid. trying to censor the world doesn't do anything. it only creates these "big bad words" that everyone knows but is forbidden to use. just get some thicker skin, let the insults flow freely, and over time this kind of shit won't get so offensive. | ||
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stevarius
United States1394 Posts
On May 04 2012 17:21 jmbthirteen wrote: Orb was banned awhile ago for the same thing and had his stream unlisted. This is where I state that I wouldn't even know who orb is if this same thing didn't happen. | ||
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HooK2000
Germany139 Posts
They don't Need a lol Player in the sc2squad | ||
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Jepsyn
Canada364 Posts
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monk
United States8476 Posts
On May 04 2012 17:24 Alkajak wrote: I see that you've removed all the incriminating links of the TL mods breaking their own rules. The links were never there in the first place. The OP never posted them, because he directly copied the text from reddit and not the embedded links. Even if a mod edits a post, you can see a note saying "Edited on xx:xx:xx". | ||
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DoNuTs84
Denmark24 Posts
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vanhio
Niue1017 Posts
On May 04 2012 17:30 Barteh wrote: Worthless racist? This is the same guy that raised (together with Sheth, of course) 32.000 dollars for Médecins Sans Frontières. Is that worthless? What have you done for this community, or even with this community at all? It's highly unlikely that you'll come anywhere CLOSE to what Destiny's managed to do. It's too bad the community is exerting power for a cause that's not feasible at all. Good luck to Destiny. You have to keep the hate man... | ||
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Fueled
United States1610 Posts
This is the same guy that raised (together with Sheth, of course) 32.000 dollars for Médecins Sans Frontières. Is that worthless? What have you done for this community, or even with this community at all? It's highly unlikely that you'll come anywhere CLOSE to what Destiny's managed to do. Its good that Destiny raised the money, but people have to stop using this as an excuse. Raising X amount of dollars does not give you a free ticket to call anyone racial/ethnic slurs. | ||
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Sub40APM
6336 Posts
On May 04 2012 17:28 ReturnStroke wrote: Odds are in strong favor of him not being an actual racist. Who honestly believes Destiny is a pro-active racist that actively hates specific races of people /views them inferior and who thinks he has a combination of anger and immaturity going on? Because I'd bet on the second option. If someone taught him how to swear better, without having to rely on the crutch of racist and homophobic language I doubt you'd hear any of that stuff from him. Actually I feel bad for him, the guy seems pretty intelligent but he seems to have hit his SC2 plateau about a year ago. | ||
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ElxGuapo
United States7 Posts
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TiDragOnflY
Netherlands130 Posts
I honestly believe that most people in this community are intelligent, social and understanding human beings. That being said, I fail to understand why people that dont even care about the whole rasicm matter are still die-hard trying to get Destiny removed from TL+his team and make him loose his income just because you dont get enough attention or just hate Destiny as a person. My question for you all is how many times have you said that to someone? online or in real life. i sure know i have called alot of people a lot of names.Does that make me 'cool' or a good/better person of course not but almost everbody does it and the point i am trying to make here is this ''He without sins trow the first rock'. If you see your friend saying faggot to somebody would you go and call their boss? to get them fired for racism? I doubt you would. And if you say well Destiny is not a friend of mine then my question for you is: Dont you believe all humans are equal? Treat everyone the way you would like them to Treat you? So guys in general if you do not like something then for the love of starcraft please do not watch it or comment on it. I mean why even bother if you dont like the player/caster just mute/ignore/avoid them. you dont have to listen to someone. and also you know who Destiny is by now and you know how he talks/typs and please dont say well maybe these people have not yet seen what Destiny is all about because I fail to believe such a thing. I cannot comprehend that so many people that watched Destiny for the first time would comment on this. Anyways this is something i wanted to get off my chest for a long time and i would like to thank everyone that took the time reading this. Kind regards, `David` | ||
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Ferrex
Belgium3 Posts
I fucking hate this community. | ||
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Southlight
United States11767 Posts
On May 04 2012 17:30 motbob wrote: Which of our own rules did TL mods break? Is there a rule on this site that states that you cannot use the word "retarded?" I know some people whom are mentally retarded. How many years until society finally decides that insulting peoples' medical conditions is no lighter than insulting their race or sexual orientation? Why are you arbitrarily deciding that medical conditions are acceptable? | ||
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vanhio
Niue1017 Posts
On May 04 2012 17:32 Fueled wrote: Its good that Destiny raised the money, but people have to stop using this as an excuse. Raising X amount of dollars does not give you a free ticket to call anyone racial/ethnic slurs. The guy was saying he is worthless... Nobody is talking about free tickets coolio. | ||
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FairForever
Canada2392 Posts
On May 04 2012 17:32 TiDragOnflY wrote: Hello everyone my name is david and i am from the netherlands. I would like to give my opinion about this matter because i am confused about the behaviour of several people in this community. I honestly believe that most people in this community are intelligent, social and understanding human beings. That being said, I fail to understand why people that dont even care about the whole rasicm matter are still die-hard trying to get Destiny removed from TL+his team and make him loose his income just because you dont get enough attention or just hate Destiny as a person. My question for you all is how many times have you said that to someone? online or in real life. i sure know i have called alot of people a lot of names.Does that make me 'cool' or a good/better person of course not but almost everbody does it and the point i am trying to make here is this ''He without sins trow the first rock'. If you see your friend saying faggot to somebody would you go and call their boss? to get them fired for racism? I doubt you would. And if you say well Destiny is not a friend of mine then my question for you is: Dont you believe all humans are equal? Treat everyone the way you would like them to Treat you? So guys in general if you do not like something then for the love of starcraft please do not watch it or comment on it. I mean why even bother if you dont like the player/caster just mute/ignore/avoid them. you dont have to listen to someone. and also you know who Destiny is by now and you know how he talks/typs and please dont say well maybe these people have not yet seen what Destiny is all about because I fail to believe such a thing. I cannot comprehend that so many people that watched Destiny for the first time would comment on this. Anyways this is something i wanted to get off my chest for a long time and i would like to thank everyone that took the time reading this. Kind regards, `David` I'm pretty sure most of us have not used racist language, even if some of us are bad mannered on BNet. It's completely unacceptable. And it's also criminal in some areas. John Terry the soccer player was recently charged with a criminal offense for the same reason. There's a reason why it's criminal, it's hurtful and demeaning to others. | ||
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