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windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
May 01 2012 20:50 GMT
#1961
Lol so apparently unless you are not part of the targeted grou pf certain insult you can't say anything about this?

What a moronic and selfish logic. Hopefully the people saying that are beardnecks that will never be in charge of anything important
"Its easy, just trust your CPU".-Boxer on being good at games
Silvertine
Profile Joined February 2012
United States509 Posts
May 01 2012 20:50 GMT
#1962
On May 02 2012 05:48 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 05:42 Silvertine wrote:
On May 02 2012 05:39 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On May 02 2012 05:37 Silvertine wrote:
On May 02 2012 05:30 Bigtony wrote:
I'm of the opinion that words are words. A word cannot be "racist." People are racist.

I'm of the opinion that words are words. A word cannot be "antiquated". People are antiquated.

Your logic is basically white noise, it could used to state anything.


And yet he's right. Guns don't kill people. People kill people.

What are you talking about? That is probably the tenth post you've made in this thread which hasn't made a lick of sense.


And I have yet to see Destiny use racist slurs to intentionally offend people of a certain ethnicity, origin, etc. <-- THAT'S what I'd consider racist.

Oh, you mean like calling an Asian person "gook"?
ManaO
Profile Joined April 2011
Italy185 Posts
May 01 2012 20:50 GMT
#1963
Being "angry" with destiny is one thing, going to his sponsors is just a jerk and pathetic move.
No fear, Dr. Smith is here
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
May 01 2012 20:51 GMT
#1964
On May 02 2012 05:47 Klondikebar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 05:46 Shiori wrote:
On May 02 2012 05:44 HorsemasterK wrote:
On May 02 2012 05:42 Shiori wrote:
On May 02 2012 05:42 Silvertine wrote:
On May 02 2012 05:39 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On May 02 2012 05:37 Silvertine wrote:
On May 02 2012 05:30 Bigtony wrote:
I'm of the opinion that words are words. A word cannot be "racist." People are racist.

I'm of the opinion that words are words. A word cannot be "antiquated". People are antiquated.

Your logic is basically white noise, it could used to state anything.


And yet he's right. Guns don't kill people. People kill people.

What are you talking about? That is probably the tenth post you've made in this thread which hasn't made a lick of sense.

Words don't make you a racist. Being prejudiced against another race makes you racist. The former doesn't imply the latter.


All we can see is your words. I cannot know your inner thoughts and its logically fallacious to assume that, if you use racist language, you are anything BUT a racist.


It's logically fallacious to infer Destiny is a racist from the fact that he used a racial slur outside of a context in which it would be obviously racist (i.e. if he were giving a speech at a Neo-Nazi rally).


It is logically fallacious to infer that a creature is a duck because it quacked.

No seriously, if you don't want people calling you a racist, don't use racist slurs.

I don't care if people call Destiny racist. Those people are entitled to be presumptive buffoons. I care when people act like this is a logical or reasonable conclusion, because it's not. For what it's worth, I don't think using racial slurs is evidence of not being a racist either, but in the context Destiny used it, I figure it's evidence of basically nothing.

I mean, if you want to infer that Destiny's a human being because he used human speech, or that he speaks English because he spoke an English word, then go for it. Spare me your poorly crafted and disingenuous witticisms though.
Th1rdEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1074 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 20:52:15
May 01 2012 20:51 GMT
#1965
It's funny how I posted a BLOG about someone using bad manner and really offensive things, similar to this, and it was closed within an hour saying " No Point blablablabla"

But Destiny gets one, even less content or point behind the post and there's 100 pages of replies in a day.

Just don't watch him. I know I don't. I've tried to give him a chance once or twice, but every time I'd go there he'd say something offensive, or blame the opponent for his herp derp plays.

One time he even said "Shut the fuck up" to his viewers.. haha

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LarJarsE
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1378 Posts
May 01 2012 20:51 GMT
#1966
On May 02 2012 05:48 LarJarsE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 05:46 Kaitlin wrote:
Poll: Internet Censorship ...

is bad. (67)
 
85%

is bad, unless I happen to agree, then it's good. (7)
 
9%

is good. (5)
 
6%

79 total votes

Your vote: Internet Censorship ...

(Vote): is good.
(Vote): is bad.
(Vote): is bad, unless I happen to agree, then it's good.


internet censorship bad. lets make a more fair poll
Poll: internet hate speech.. is it (morally)

bad (71)
 
64%

justified (40)
 
36%

111 total votes

Your vote: internet hate speech.. is it (morally)

(Vote): bad
(Vote): justified


it would be nice for the people who answered this poll to explain themselves

I chose that internet hate speech (or any hate speech really) is morally bad. its HATE speech people.. i think that hiding behind your online ID and using hate speech to piss someone off or intimidate them is LOW and lame as hell.
since 98'
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
May 01 2012 20:51 GMT
#1967
On May 02 2012 05:48 ch33psh33p wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 05:30 FairForever wrote:
On May 02 2012 05:29 Primadog wrote:
Poll: If you're asian, are you offended?

I am offended by this thread (78)
 
46%

I am offended by the destiny screenshot in OP (50)
 
30%

I am not offended by the destiny screenshot in OP (40)
 
24%

168 total votes

Your vote: If you're asian, are you offended?

(Vote): I am offended by the destiny screenshot in OP
(Vote): I am not offended by the destiny screenshot in OP
(Vote): I am offended by this thread




Voted being offended by the thread.

We have all made mistakes before - personally I have used some derogatory language that I wish I could take bakc. But the reaction of Destiny in this thread does sadden me.


This thread is about 100 times more offensive than what Destiny said.


It kind of also disappoints me. People on both sides of the argument are really degrading the quality of this thread.

I think some valid points have been made by both sides but 90% of this thread is irrelevant and quite insulting to one another, as well as cheapening the issue.

This is really a great opportunity to make people aware of the issues with using such language and why it should be unacceptable to use it, and in that sense I wish Destiny listened and noted that, and avoids using the language again, even if he won't admit so publicly. Yet we're wasting this opportunity with ridiculous bickering, people bashing Destiny as opposed to identifying the actual problem, as well as people defending Destiny while cheapening such remarks to simple rage.
CrugerDK
Profile Joined December 2011
Denmark323 Posts
May 01 2012 20:51 GMT
#1968
i dont get people sometimes....

if you find destiny offensive, dont watch his stream.
if you face him on ladder and hes being offensive, report him to blizzard like you could for anyone else you'd face...

going to sponsers?? really??

especially the people who are offended on behalf of someone else... really??
what ever happen to sticks and "stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me"?

i think some people should reconsider their priorities...
Razuik
Profile Joined October 2010
United States409 Posts
May 01 2012 20:51 GMT
#1969
On May 02 2012 05:47 Primadog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 05:29 Primadog wrote:
Poll: If you're asian, are you offended?

I am offended by this thread (78)
 
46%

I am offended by the destiny screenshot in OP (50)
 
30%

I am not offended by the destiny screenshot in OP (40)
 
24%

168 total votes

Your vote: If you're asian, are you offended?

(Vote): I am offended by the destiny screenshot in OP
(Vote): I am not offended by the destiny screenshot in OP
(Vote): I am offended by this thread



As expected. The only offensive thing going on is this thread.

I guess TL polls now come with a secured racial identifier. Wouldn't want people to vote if they're not really Asian...
Charon1979
Profile Joined October 2010
Austria317 Posts
May 01 2012 20:52 GMT
#1970
So we have a homophobic racist who supports gay marriage and doctors without borders who considers himself as an entertainer (he is a professional streamer, not a professional gamer) just like say Eminem, yet some parts of the community want to see him (and be treaded like) a spokesperson of eSport, a CEO or a politician during a public interview.

While I dont say "Its ok" I dont understand why this topic deserves 100 pages of attention, while there are REALLY POPULAR Persons out there in the wide world who abuse his "marketing gag" even more aggressive and get more followers at a daily basis.
Even worse, ACTUAL RACISTS get elected while the eWarriors battle for a better world through eMail in the gigantic eSports World.
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
May 01 2012 20:52 GMT
#1971
On May 02 2012 05:48 FairForever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 05:46 Kaitlin wrote:
Poll: Internet Censorship ...

is bad. (67)
 
85%

is bad, unless I happen to agree, then it's good. (7)
 
9%

is good. (5)
 
6%

79 total votes

Your vote: Internet Censorship ...

(Vote): is good.
(Vote): is bad.
(Vote): is bad, unless I happen to agree, then it's good.



This is kind of a general comment that doesn't really explain the situation.

Internet censorship isn't needed - but Destiny's actions should be taken seriously by the public.

The fact that many of you are saying not to go to his sponsors already says something: That you know that his actions would be deemed unacceptable by Razer. If you thought he didn't do anything wrong in society's eyes, you would have no issue with the complaints.

It wouldn't matter if Razer's CEO was Destiny's dad. No company wants a flood of complaints coming to their Inbox, because it means bad news for profits. I has nothing to do with what Razer actually thinks about the issue. They probably couldn't care less.
D_K_night
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada615 Posts
May 01 2012 20:52 GMT
#1972
This is the Destiny that people have grown to expect these types of things from. He has not changed from mild-mannered to suddenly BM overnight; he will not see the reason to change his ways.

He has an in-built audience base...also consider that he makes his living off of gaming via his stream. Remember that he's not simply supporting himself, I do believe he is supporting a wife + kid, and all the things that go with that. When you realize that - he is going to continue doing what he's doing, because to be honest, it's working out for him just fine.

If you observe the reaction of his fans, they are amused and entertained when Destiny does the rage/racism thing. Everyone knows it's not politically correct, and that's exactly what's feeding them. Consider this just part of the stream's appeal, Destiny's character that he's portraying, to an audience. He is giving them what they want.

To those of you who are decrying "double standard". Truth is this. Look around you, everywhere you go, where you work. There are double standards in literally every part of the world we live in, in every aspect of the rules that govern us, the law, what's socially accepted in society and so forth. We are not going to change any of these things. What's fair or what isn't, isn't even a valid question.

All you need to remember is, Destiny for all we know, is not the same person online, that he is when he is physically standing in front of you and saying hello.
Canada
courtpanda
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
866 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 20:53:00
May 01 2012 20:52 GMT
#1973
im asian and never heard the word gook until now.

Corrosive
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3741 Posts
May 01 2012 20:53 GMT
#1974
How the fuck are people defending destiny calling an asian person gook in a way meant to offend him? With the orb situation, okay, he called people nigger, but he didn't know whether they were black or not. Warden is korean and his smurf name was asian-like, as well as he said the korean gg. It's pretty obvious destiny knew he was targeting a korean with a racist word that is meant to offend asians. The discussion of "is destiny racist?!?!" is irrelevant. It's unprofessional and it's stupid as fuck.
Maruprime.
Silvertine
Profile Joined February 2012
United States509 Posts
May 01 2012 20:53 GMT
#1975
On May 02 2012 05:51 CrugerDK wrote:
i dont get people sometimes....

if you find destiny offensive, dont watch his stream.
if you face him on ladder and hes being offensive, report him to blizzard like you could for anyone else you'd face...

going to sponsers?? really??

especially the people who are offended on behalf of someone else... really??
what ever happen to sticks and "stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me"?

i think some people should reconsider their priorities...

I don't get why people like you feel the need to come into a thread and post a sentiment which has been voiced literally 100 times in almost the exact same words. It has been responded to even more times, just search through the thread. You're adding absolutely nothing to the discussion.
Zombo Joe
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada850 Posts
May 01 2012 20:54 GMT
#1976
Destiny, just like IdrA, is setting a bad example for the entire community.

That much is true.
I am Terranfying.
TricksAre4Figs
Profile Joined May 2010
United States125 Posts
May 01 2012 20:54 GMT
#1977
Pestiny doesn't deserve a sponsorship. Teach this filth a lesson and remove him from everything SC2 related. Imagine the arrogance he has to be such a ... flamer and think he can get away with it. Get out.
Liquid crystal display everyday.
lightsentry
Profile Joined May 2011
413 Posts
May 01 2012 20:54 GMT
#1978
On May 02 2012 05:52 courtpanda wrote:
im asian and never heard the word gook until now.



yeah this, I'm asian too and I have no idea what gook means, wasn't even aware it was an asian slur
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
May 01 2012 20:54 GMT
#1979
On May 02 2012 05:53 Silvertine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 05:51 CrugerDK wrote:
i dont get people sometimes....

if you find destiny offensive, dont watch his stream.
if you face him on ladder and hes being offensive, report him to blizzard like you could for anyone else you'd face...

going to sponsers?? really??

especially the people who are offended on behalf of someone else... really??
what ever happen to sticks and "stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me"?

i think some people should reconsider their priorities...

I don't get why people like you feel the need to come into a thread and post a sentiment which has been voiced literally 100 times in almost the exact same words. It has been responded to even more times, just search through the thread. You're adding absolutely nothing to the discussion.

The first part of his post is completely and utterly correct. If you don't like his stream, don't watch his stream. Complaining to Quantic is just ridiculous and making something out of nothing, just like it was with the Orb fiasco.
DueSs
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States765 Posts
May 01 2012 20:55 GMT
#1980
Congratulations, this awful discourse has managed to reach 100 pages, which is more than many live report threads. Destiny isn't doing anything wrong. He's doing everything right. Why can't that be seen? =/
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