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mamo928
Profile Joined May 2012
United States1 Post
May 01 2012 19:11 GMT
#1601
Destiny should just pull out his fat huge cock and bitch slap all the haters

User was temp banned for this post.
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zidaneshead
Profile Joined November 2010
245 Posts
May 01 2012 19:12 GMT
#1602
On May 02 2012 04:07 Tyree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 04:02 Orracle wrote:
On May 02 2012 03:55 IMABUNNEH wrote:
On May 02 2012 03:53 Arcanefrost wrote:
You are being oversensitive. People are not in their right mind just after losing a game, and that combined with the easy and unpersonal hit-and-run possibilities of the internet will lead to unmeant insults.


Normal people are perhaps not in their right mind.

People who play games as a career are completely capable of maintaining themselves after a loss, or they wouldn't be in that position.


So when you see people like MKP sit in the booth and cry after a loss, they shouldn't be doing that? Destiny is expressing his displeasure in a different way. If the original poster really got offended over what some one on the internet said to him, he needs to take a step back and examine his life. The problem isn't with Destiny, it's with him.



You are comparing crying to racial slurs? On what planet are we on? What is going on here??

"Got called a a gook/fag/nigger? Well too bad, go examine your life, its your problem!"


Do you understand just how utterly insane that sounds?

Someone can come up and call your mother a whore, and then straight up tell you that its your and your moms problem, not his. He is a fine individual, purely expressing his emotions, calling a woman a whore is just as normal as crying, eating and sleeping.

For the love of god what is going on in this thread!!!?


A lot of people who grew up in a place where their race was the predominant one, and that's not meant to be an insult, I just often find that the people who freely throw words like this around are the ones who never grew up with kids who had to endure this kind of crap. I'm certainly not looking to burn someone at the stake for every racist comment ever made but at the same time I can't exactly hold them in high regard after hearing it.

On another note, a lot of posts are saying "if you don't like it don't watch." Well most of us probably don't, fortunately someone made a forum post and made it easy to digest.
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
May 01 2012 19:12 GMT
#1603
On May 02 2012 04:10 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 04:06 thatsundowner wrote:
On May 02 2012 03:57 Arghmyliver wrote:
There is a popular adage -

Stick and stones may break my bones,
But words can never hurt me.

The moral being - shit can only bring you down if you let it.

If you WANT it to mean something horrible, then it always will. And that's a fact.

If I called you Hot Dog and you took it as an offensive term for males, you know?
You can let this shit get to you, or you can think to yourself "Gee I made him angry, SUCCESS!"


Except the words we're talking about already do mean something terrible. You don't have to take them that way, the words are being used because they're horrible slurs for a certain group of people. You can swear up and down that you don't mean it in that way, but you chose that word for a reason.

Words like nigger and faggot didn't always carry power as vehicles of racism. But I think they will for a long time in the future so long as people refuse to accept that they are used in other senses.


I don't understand why people are bothered so much, if people tossed out all the racial slurs targeted at my race in a game, I would just chuckle and move on to the next game, why can't all these posters realize they are just words lol, and should stop being offended for other people. Destiny has built his fanbase around his ragey antics and idgaf attitude, so why is it suddenly a big issue, is everyone really so thin-skinned?
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Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
May 01 2012 19:12 GMT
#1604
This is how the big leagues handle things like this.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/7875032/delmon-young-detroit-tigers-suspended-7-games

DETROIT -- Delmon Young was suspended by Major League Baseball on Monday for seven days without pay following his arrest on a hate crime harassment charge last week in New York.

The commissioner's office said the suspension is retroactive to Friday, when Young was arrested after a late-night tussle at his hotel during which police say he yelled anti-Semitic epithets.

"Those associated with our game should meet the responsibilities and standards that stem from our game's stature as a social institution," commissioner Bud Selig said in a statement. "An incident like this cannot and will not be tolerated. I understand that Mr. Young is regretful, and it is my expectation that he will learn from this unfortunate episode."

The statement from the commissioner's office also said that Young would be required to participate in a treatment program.

Young is eligible for reinstatement from the restricted list May 4.

The suspension will cost Young approximately $257,240 of his $6,725,000 salary.

Speaking before the Tigers game against the Kansas City Royals was postponed by rain, Detroit general manager Dave Dombrowski said Young will not appeal the ruling and that he will not face additional discipline by the team when he comes off the restricted list Friday.

"Under the (collective bargaining agreement), there's no dual discipline," he said. "He'll be activated and ready to play on Friday. If he's not in the lineup, that will be the manager's decision. He's been working out over the weekend, and took batting practice today, so he'll be physically ready on Friday."Around 2:30 a.m. Friday, Young was standing outside the team hotel in New York. Nearby, a group of about four Chicago tourists staying at the hotel were approached by a panhandler wearing a yarmulke and a Star of David around his neck, according to police.

Afterward, as the group walked up to the hotel doors, Young started yelling anti-Semitic epithets, police said.

It was not clear whom Young was yelling at, but he got into a scuffle with the Chicago group, and a 32-year-old man was tackled and sustained scratches to his elbows, according to police and the criminal complaint.

Both Young and the group went inside the hotel, and at some point, police were called, and Young was arrested, police said. Young was first taken to a hospital because he was believed to be intoxicated, police said.

Young apologized to his teammates and fans in a statement before being arraigned hours after his arrest.

Dombrowski did not know any of the details of the treatment program. It is not known if Young would undergo sensitivity training, treatment for alcohol and anger issues or some combination.

"We have not been told those details, and we might never know all of them," he said. "When Miguel (Cabrera) was in a similar program last spring, I never saw the entire treatment program. The team is just told what they need to know to facilitate the player's work in the program."

Young is hitting .242 in 18 games, batting fifth in the order behind Miguel Cabrera and Prince Fielder. He has one homer and five RBIs.
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bouhko
Profile Joined January 2012
193 Posts
May 01 2012 19:13 GMT
#1605
This thread is actually getting more entertaining than a good movie. Nony was right ! :-D
u sixpoll ?
ShiNwave
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom41 Posts
May 01 2012 19:13 GMT
#1606
In no other "profession" would it be ok to be calling someone Gook, Nigger and the likes.

Should be stamped out, not tolerated. Quantic allowing this behaviour without any repercussions just shows what a dogawful organisation they are.
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Syrupjuice
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States173 Posts
May 01 2012 19:13 GMT
#1607
You know who Destiny reminds me of? Eminem.

This is so reminiscent of when Eminem was becoming big in the 'mainstream' media. There was so much outcry against him from parents and other activist groups. Yet, even though he has very harsh lyrics and even includes some racial slurs in his songs, he is praised for his work and makes multimillions. In fact, a lot of popular music has very racy lyrics (even if they are not vulgar, they talk about abuse, drugs, partying, being social deviants, etc.). imo, unless you are willing to stand against all the other types of media that have these kinds of issues, you should sit down. Destiny is not a record label, he is not a manager, he is a not a political personality, so I do not see why those standards should be applied to him.
Glurkenspurk
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1915 Posts
May 01 2012 19:13 GMT
#1608
The implications of saying slurs and shit aside, why do so many people think it's okay to act like this when you represent an organization with sponsors? I could not care less if you call people faggots and niggers, but the second your bills are being paid by sponsors you need to represent them well. Not by making it look like they are handing money to racist idiots.
ePLocust
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States587 Posts
May 01 2012 19:13 GMT
#1609
On May 02 2012 04:10 mTwTT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 04:06 Primadog wrote:
On May 02 2012 04:04 mTwTT1 wrote:
On May 01 2012 23:28 ssg wrote:
On May 01 2012 23:26 ZenithM wrote:
On May 01 2012 23:22 noax wrote:
Well there are few asian in their team... i'm curious to hear their feeling towards this... especially from (T)Flo well we're going to see what gonna happens... to be honest i don't think it's gonna change or fired him from Quantic... think of it as a cooler and nicer (T)IdrA...

Bad comparison for the situation at hand, I don't think IdrA ever pulled racist slang words like that in his famous "IdrA rage" comments.

Maybe a "French-Canadians...in general...seem a bit off." on his stream but that's about it :D

Tt1 needs to make a thread on this travesty


i think your right.. ive been opressed by idrajit for far too long


Do you have a rss feed setup that alerts you when anyone on the internet that types T T 1 in a row?


no i search my name on content only LOL, i know its really bad

LOL i saw prima's post and I called this!
TRaFFiC
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1448 Posts
May 01 2012 19:14 GMT
#1610
On May 02 2012 04:02 Orracle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 03:55 IMABUNNEH wrote:
On May 02 2012 03:53 Arcanefrost wrote:
You are being oversensitive. People are not in their right mind just after losing a game, and that combined with the easy and unpersonal hit-and-run possibilities of the internet will lead to unmeant insults.


Normal people are perhaps not in their right mind.

People who play games as a career are completely capable of maintaining themselves after a loss, or they wouldn't be in that position.


So when you see people like MKP sit in the booth and cry after a loss, they shouldn't be doing that? Destiny is expressing his displeasure in a different way. If the original poster really got offended over what some one on the internet said to him, he needs to take a step back and examine his life. The problem isn't with Destiny, it's with him.

lmao, are you serious? I'm completely against making a big scene, but the problem is with Destiny, NOT the OP.
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Phobbers
Profile Joined May 2011
773 Posts
May 01 2012 19:14 GMT
#1611
Holy shit people. First thing I do today is herrr derr get on TL and this is the first thread I see. After that I go on over to Reddit to see if there is another thread, there isn't. Wasn't TL all up in arms about how Reddit is a massive shit hole for going on these massive witch hunts (see orb)? This is getting out of hand, and it seems to me that people only go out of their way to do these kinds of things because they don't like the person, or something idiotic like that.

Also it's Destiny, he defended his use of certain words on a sotg ages ago. You shouldn't be surprised.

Finally, there was a post earlier in this thread by babylon, and I feel it's the best one in here. And I hope more people manage to see it. The reasoning behind it? Because people want drama, and that's it. It's sickening to see what some of you are posting, just to fuel the hate and drama train. If anything, a lot of you should take a look at the things you've posted here and feel embarrassed.

On May 02 2012 03:52 babylon wrote:
I have no issue with bringing social justice issues to the table; what I'm annoyed about is people trying to pretend they actually care about social justice when all they want to do is create more drama and subject yet another community figure to a witchhunt. I highly doubt more than 10% of the people complaining in this thread about Destiny's language actually do anything outside of lambasting people on the internet to promote social justice when confronted with problems in the real world.

If you're gonna try to get Destiny fired, sure, go right ahead, but don't delude yourself into thinking you're making a "big change," especially considering the usual gaming population. Until your concern for these issues steps outside of "I'm going to make a post on the internet about it and then email the sponsors, let me feel good about myself for stamping out the use of racist slurs on a stream watched by a miniscule portion of the population, many of whom use it themselves and/or have encountered it before and have no issues with hearing it or using it in every day life and who couldn't care less if Destiny loses his team so long as he continues to stream," then ... well, I hope you see where I'm going here. What will emailing the sponsors do? Well, in one scenario, a major SC2 team loses its sponsorship and ... people still continue to use whatever words they want. In another, Destiny gets kicked and people still continue to use whatever words they want. Yet in another, nothing happens and people still continue to use whatever words they want.


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NotAPro
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada146 Posts
May 01 2012 19:14 GMT
#1612
ITT: People with little to no exposure to racism telling other people with little to no exposure to racism that their views on racism are invalid

ahurdurrr

User was warned for this post
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
May 01 2012 19:14 GMT
#1613
On May 02 2012 04:11 IMABUNNEH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 04:06 Castor385 wrote:
Quite the hipocracy to be offended by a stream that warns you up front for explicit language.

If you don't like it, confront the person or stop watching.

User was warned for this post



What about being offended because you played AGAINST Destiny and were on the receiving end of that shit?


Don't waste his time doing some all-in that takes no skill while he's playing sc2 for a living. What's not been brought up so far is that probably 70% of the people he plays are stream sniping him as well. Most people would get angry if that's all they face when trying to actually play this game seriously.
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Linoge20
Profile Joined September 2011
Denmark17 Posts
May 01 2012 19:14 GMT
#1614
On May 02 2012 04:12 Canucklehead wrote:
This is how the big leagues handle things like this.

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/7875032/delmon-young-detroit-tigers-suspended-7-games

Show nested quote +
DETROIT -- Delmon Young was suspended by Major League Baseball on Monday for seven days without pay following his arrest on a hate crime harassment charge last week in New York.

The commissioner's office said the suspension is retroactive to Friday, when Young was arrested after a late-night tussle at his hotel during which police say he yelled anti-Semitic epithets.

"Those associated with our game should meet the responsibilities and standards that stem from our game's stature as a social institution," commissioner Bud Selig said in a statement. "An incident like this cannot and will not be tolerated. I understand that Mr. Young is regretful, and it is my expectation that he will learn from this unfortunate episode."

The statement from the commissioner's office also said that Young would be required to participate in a treatment program.

Young is eligible for reinstatement from the restricted list May 4.

The suspension will cost Young approximately $257,240 of his $6,725,000 salary.

Speaking before the Tigers game against the Kansas City Royals was postponed by rain, Detroit general manager Dave Dombrowski said Young will not appeal the ruling and that he will not face additional discipline by the team when he comes off the restricted list Friday.

"Under the (collective bargaining agreement), there's no dual discipline," he said. "He'll be activated and ready to play on Friday. If he's not in the lineup, that will be the manager's decision. He's been working out over the weekend, and took batting practice today, so he'll be physically ready on Friday."Around 2:30 a.m. Friday, Young was standing outside the team hotel in New York. Nearby, a group of about four Chicago tourists staying at the hotel were approached by a panhandler wearing a yarmulke and a Star of David around his neck, according to police.

Afterward, as the group walked up to the hotel doors, Young started yelling anti-Semitic epithets, police said.

It was not clear whom Young was yelling at, but he got into a scuffle with the Chicago group, and a 32-year-old man was tackled and sustained scratches to his elbows, according to police and the criminal complaint.

Both Young and the group went inside the hotel, and at some point, police were called, and Young was arrested, police said. Young was first taken to a hospital because he was believed to be intoxicated, police said.

Young apologized to his teammates and fans in a statement before being arraigned hours after his arrest.

Dombrowski did not know any of the details of the treatment program. It is not known if Young would undergo sensitivity training, treatment for alcohol and anger issues or some combination.

"We have not been told those details, and we might never know all of them," he said. "When Miguel (Cabrera) was in a similar program last spring, I never saw the entire treatment program. The team is just told what they need to know to facilitate the player's work in the program."

Young is hitting .242 in 18 games, batting fifth in the order behind Miguel Cabrera and Prince Fielder. He has one homer and five RBIs.


Okay, so if Destiny gets arrested he should get punished ? You know that makes sense, we have prisons for that very purpose and a team could do it to show they don't condone it. But you know, Destiny is not arrested so I fail to see the comparison.
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JeffS
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada31 Posts
May 01 2012 19:15 GMT
#1615
Talk about this community being butthurt one day after the next...give it a rest kiddies.

User was temp banned for this post.
zidaneshead
Profile Joined November 2010
245 Posts
May 01 2012 19:16 GMT
#1616
On May 02 2012 04:14 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 04:11 IMABUNNEH wrote:
On May 02 2012 04:06 Castor385 wrote:
Quite the hipocracy to be offended by a stream that warns you up front for explicit language.

If you don't like it, confront the person or stop watching.

User was warned for this post



What about being offended because you played AGAINST Destiny and were on the receiving end of that shit?


Don't waste his time doing some all-in that takes no skill while he's playing sc2 for a living. What's not been brought up so far is that probably 70% of the people he plays are stream sniping him as well. Most people would get angry if that's all they face when trying to actually play this game seriously.


Oh boy, SC2 players have it so tough, who can blame Destiny for resorting to racism now?
thatsundowner
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada312 Posts
May 01 2012 19:16 GMT
#1617
On May 02 2012 04:12 Megaliskuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 04:10 oBlade wrote:
On May 02 2012 04:06 thatsundowner wrote:
On May 02 2012 03:57 Arghmyliver wrote:
There is a popular adage -

Stick and stones may break my bones,
But words can never hurt me.

The moral being - shit can only bring you down if you let it.

If you WANT it to mean something horrible, then it always will. And that's a fact.

If I called you Hot Dog and you took it as an offensive term for males, you know?
You can let this shit get to you, or you can think to yourself "Gee I made him angry, SUCCESS!"


Except the words we're talking about already do mean something terrible. You don't have to take them that way, the words are being used because they're horrible slurs for a certain group of people. You can swear up and down that you don't mean it in that way, but you chose that word for a reason.

Words like nigger and faggot didn't always carry power as vehicles of racism. But I think they will for a long time in the future so long as people refuse to accept that they are used in other senses.


I don't understand why people are bothered so much, if people tossed out all the racial slurs targeted at my race in a game, I would just chuckle and move on to the next game, why can't all these posters realize they are just words lol, and should stop being offended for other people. Destiny has built his fanbase around his ragey antics and idgaf attitude, so why is it suddenly a big issue, is everyone really so thin-skinned?


It's great that you have thick skin, but not everybody does. And they shouldn't be expected to just deal with it when this shouldn't be acceptable in the first place.
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Fueled
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1610 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 19:17:11
May 01 2012 19:16 GMT
#1618
On May 02 2012 04:04 ThomasHobbes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 03:47 Fueled wrote:
I'm starting to think that NonY was right when he said we appreciate the drama more than we appreciate the game. The fact that there is always ~3,000 viewers for his stream, even though he is a low/mid-tier pro at best, is a testament to the fact that some people actually like his crude brand of humor. Let them have it.

This exactly.

I always thought it was funny how some of these streamers that are top tier players get less then 1k viewers.

Look at Axslav for example. He isn't top tier just yet, but he's getting there. He explains exactly why he is doing things, why he lost and what exactly he is scouting/looking for and how exactly he plans on countering it. He is probably one of the more influential players out there for Protoss players. But now how many viewers does he get? I don't think I've ever seen him get over 1k viewers. Which is a shame since he is one of the better streamers out there.


People like personality, that's a fact of life.

Idra rages and Stephano is known for being arrogant, both of them enjoy huge popularity when compared to equally skilled Korean Zergs.

People like personality, yes.

Idra and Stephano have huge personalities, but they also have the play to back them up. Stephano especially.

both of them enjoy huge popularity when compared to equally skilled Korean Zergs.

Yes, but in this case you can't compare Destiny to them. He is a low-mid tier pro with minimal success in the larger tournaments. Which would then mean that you are watching Destiny for his personality (drama), not for his playing ability in Starcraft 2, which is exactly what I was saying.

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Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
May 01 2012 19:16 GMT
#1619
On May 02 2012 04:15 JeffS wrote:
Talk about this community being butthurt one day after the next...give it a rest kiddies.


It's because there's been no community news in a while, the community is getting restless so the community is creating it's own news.
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
drlame
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden574 Posts
May 01 2012 19:17 GMT
#1620
On May 02 2012 04:12 Megaliskuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 04:10 oBlade wrote:
On May 02 2012 04:06 thatsundowner wrote:
On May 02 2012 03:57 Arghmyliver wrote:
There is a popular adage -

Stick and stones may break my bones,
But words can never hurt me.

The moral being - shit can only bring you down if you let it.

If you WANT it to mean something horrible, then it always will. And that's a fact.

If I called you Hot Dog and you took it as an offensive term for males, you know?
You can let this shit get to you, or you can think to yourself "Gee I made him angry, SUCCESS!"


Except the words we're talking about already do mean something terrible. You don't have to take them that way, the words are being used because they're horrible slurs for a certain group of people. You can swear up and down that you don't mean it in that way, but you chose that word for a reason.

Words like nigger and faggot didn't always carry power as vehicles of racism. But I think they will for a long time in the future so long as people refuse to accept that they are used in other senses.


I don't understand why people are bothered so much, if people tossed out all the racial slurs targeted at my race in a game, I would just chuckle and move on to the next game, why can't all these posters realize they are just words lol, and should stop being offended for other people. Destiny has built his fanbase around his ragey antics and idgaf attitude, so why is it suddenly a big issue, is everyone really so thin-skinned?


It's a big issue because he's a sponsored professional. You'd probably disregard any racial comments as trolling in ladder against randoms but against players representing one of the better teams you'd expect more of a professional mannerism. especially considering no provocation has been made on your part (if you don't count the 111 as provocative).
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