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Primadog
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4411 Posts
May 01 2012 19:06 GMT
#1581
On May 02 2012 04:04 mTwTT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2012 23:28 ssg wrote:
On May 01 2012 23:26 ZenithM wrote:
On May 01 2012 23:22 noax wrote:
Well there are few asian in their team... i'm curious to hear their feeling towards this... especially from (T)Flo well we're going to see what gonna happens... to be honest i don't think it's gonna change or fired him from Quantic... think of it as a cooler and nicer (T)IdrA...

Bad comparison for the situation at hand, I don't think IdrA ever pulled racist slang words like that in his famous "IdrA rage" comments.

Maybe a "French-Canadians...in general...seem a bit off." on his stream but that's about it :D

Tt1 needs to make a thread on this travesty


i think your right.. ive been opressed by idrajit for far too long


Do you have a rss feed setup that alerts you when anyone on the internet that types T T 1 in a row?
Thank God and gunrun.
Castor385
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands20 Posts
May 01 2012 19:06 GMT
#1582
Quite the hipocracy to be offended by a stream that warns you up front for explicit language.

If you don't like it, confront the person or stop watching.

User was warned for this post
Study everything, You'll find something you can use
Tyree
Profile Joined November 2010
1508 Posts
May 01 2012 19:07 GMT
#1583
On May 02 2012 04:02 Orracle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 03:55 IMABUNNEH wrote:
On May 02 2012 03:53 Arcanefrost wrote:
You are being oversensitive. People are not in their right mind just after losing a game, and that combined with the easy and unpersonal hit-and-run possibilities of the internet will lead to unmeant insults.


Normal people are perhaps not in their right mind.

People who play games as a career are completely capable of maintaining themselves after a loss, or they wouldn't be in that position.


So when you see people like MKP sit in the booth and cry after a loss, they shouldn't be doing that? Destiny is expressing his displeasure in a different way. If the original poster really got offended over what some one on the internet said to him, he needs to take a step back and examine his life. The problem isn't with Destiny, it's with him.



You are comparing crying to racial slurs? On what planet are we on? What is going on here??

"Got called a a gook/fag/nigger? Well too bad, go examine your life, its your problem!"


Do you understand just how utterly insane that sounds?

Someone can come up and call your mother a whore, and then straight up tell you that its your and your moms problem, not his. He is a fine individual, purely expressing his emotions, calling a woman a whore is just as normal as crying, eating and sleeping.

For the love of god what is going on in this thread!!!?
★ Top Gun ★
besteady
Profile Joined September 2010
United States75 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 19:08:40
May 01 2012 19:07 GMT
#1584
^^^^^^^woah thats some advanced mental gymatstics

On May 02 2012 04:01 Roe wrote:
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On May 02 2012 03:59 besteady wrote:
Its funny how destiny gets defended for his actions by the commuinity, but orb gets fired from his job for nearly the same thing. Pretty heavy double standard and I think TL should consider taking him off the featured streamers list at least.

1. Destiny is defended by community of TL
2. Orb is fired for doing same thing as Destiny

I don't think Orb was fired by Teamliquid, so there's no double standard implied in your post.


I mean the reponse of the community, especially from reddit, is a double standard, simply because they like destiny more, and that makes it ok for him to use ratial slurs.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
May 01 2012 19:08 GMT
#1585
On May 02 2012 04:04 ThomasHobbes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 03:47 Fueled wrote:
I'm starting to think that NonY was right when he said we appreciate the drama more than we appreciate the game. The fact that there is always ~3,000 viewers for his stream, even though he is a low/mid-tier pro at best, is a testament to the fact that some people actually like his crude brand of humor. Let them have it.

This exactly.

I always thought it was funny how some of these streamers that are top tier players get less then 1k viewers.

Look at Axslav for example. He isn't top tier just yet, but he's getting there. He explains exactly why he is doing things, why he lost and what exactly he is scouting/looking for and how exactly he plans on countering it. He is probably one of the more influential players out there for Protoss players. But now how many viewers does he get? I don't think I've ever seen him get over 1k viewers. Which is a shame since he is one of the better streamers out there.


People like personality, that's a fact of life.

Idra rages and Stephano is known for being arrogant, both of them enjoy huge popularity when compared to equally skilled Korean Zergs.


You're clearly biased, being his cat and all. Shame on you. >: p
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Kich
Profile Joined April 2011
United States339 Posts
May 01 2012 19:08 GMT
#1586
So, did everyone forget that part of Destiny's joining of Quantic was that Quantic would be completely compliant with his streaming habits? I thought that was established long ago.
DKR
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom622 Posts
May 01 2012 19:08 GMT
#1587
I agree with the view that the orb reaction/Destiny reaction are at odds with one another for the same thing. The Orb reaction was too far, the destiny one not far enough. the bronze through gold redditers who hang off destiny's every word seem to be dominating this, the guy should loose his featured streaming for a period of time at the very least. Let Quantic deal with his status as their player however.

I fear the reasonable posts will be lost in a sea of reddit-style idiocy tbh though :/
"1 base. Cheese man." - MKP. "[MVP] is not stylistic, his style is winning, which is the style you want to have." - Artosis
Swissm
Profile Joined June 2010
United States207 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 19:11:52
May 01 2012 19:08 GMT
#1588
Shocking, the vaunted SC2 community blows Shit way out of proportion (again).
Derrida
Profile Joined March 2011
2885 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 19:10:06
May 01 2012 19:08 GMT
#1589
It's incredible this is still being labeled as a witch hunt of people who have nothing better to do with their lives than to ruin an "established figure" of Starcraft II scene.

Those of us who think this kind of behavior should not be tolerated are not arguing with people who are okay with it. Most of the people who are offended would turn to Destiny for an explanation. And Destiny said he doesn't give a fuck. So, if people are still offended and not persuaded by the offenders' justification/response/apology, it is within their power to pursue this as they wish.

However, most of the people who are okay with this behavior are just arguing through ad hominems, or trying to prove that being offended by this behavior is a sign of no-lifers. If you are okay with it, how about trying to understand that some people genuinely have a problem with this kind of language in general, or this kind of language in starcraft II as an e-sports in particular. You don't really help the situation by saying "ur trying to fuck destiny in the ass," or by saying "you are blowing this out of proportion." Whose proportion are you talking about? Ideas, beliefs, and worldviews are all subjective. You do not have the monopoly over the "right" way of doing/hearing/understanding/accepting things.
#1 Grubby Fan.
Falcor
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada894 Posts
May 01 2012 19:08 GMT
#1590
On May 02 2012 04:00 starcraft911 wrote:
I played you a couple days ago. I didn't know you were from Canada too. We should get some customs in. I don't think it really matters if he's a "true racist" or not. I think spreading a hateful message resounds with his large fanbase and can do no good for the community. I'm not a stream watcher myself, but I can imagine that many young minds are being molded by destiny and I would like to see him take the role he's in (weather he like it or not) responsibly. You can be 'controversial' and 'edgy' without being racist.

Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 03:59 besteady wrote:
Its funny how destiny gets defended for his actions by the commuinity, but orb gets fired from his job for nearly the same thing. Pretty heavy double standard and I think TL should consider taking him off the featured streamers list at least.


The people who fired Orb are different than whomever Destiny may or may not answer to. I'm not sure what this has to do with anything. Orb =/= Destiny.


Its not destiny's job to watch what he says because a kid might look up to him. It's the parents job to make sure the kid isn't being influenced by what they percieve to be bad influences. When i was growing up i wasn't allowed to watch the simpsons...and i never did my parents made sure of that.

Is it harder to filter what your kid sees nowadays, yes. But its still up to the parents to do it. Thats the responsibilty you take on when you have a kid
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
May 01 2012 19:08 GMT
#1591
On May 02 2012 04:05 SolHeiM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 04:03 Roe wrote:
On May 02 2012 04:00 SolHeiM wrote:
On May 02 2012 03:58 Megaliskuu wrote:
On May 02 2012 03:56 sad.wish wrote:
On May 02 2012 03:54 Megaliskuu wrote:
On May 02 2012 03:53 sad.wish wrote:
On May 02 2012 03:52 Megaliskuu wrote:
On May 02 2012 03:51 sad.wish wrote:
Orb has been a personality in our community since Beta
Destiny on the other hand, has been a nuissance and its almost disrespectful to us.

Since they did a witchhunt on Orb, for 1 little thing.
I think Destiny deserves a witchhunt for his whole career....

I won't stop till something is done about this kid, finally.
A lot of us been fed up with this guy for a long time.


Lol if you don't like it, don't watch. Its so simple!



I don't watch, ever . LOL
who said i watch him?


So why do you care so much, why have you been "fed up with him for such a long time'? If someone used racist terms in RL you probably wouldn't do a damn thing, but someone says gook in a video game and suddenly you think something must be done and his career must end.

Strong priorities in TL kids.


How come orb's career got ruined for 1 thing?
Why shouldn't this be applied to Destiny?


You think I supported the orb witchhunt at all? It was just another case of sad white knights having nothing better to do than to jump on someone and ruin them.


The orb witchhunt was 99% people saying "black people should be offended by the word nigger, therefore I am going to join the hunt! Now where did I leave that pitchfork? And where's my torch?"

Absolutely fucking ridiculous how people will do their best to fuck someone else in the ass when they really aren't affected by what happens in any way what so ever.

That may be true, but it has no bearing on the validity of Orb's firing. The "witch hunt" wasn't the one making the decisions.


A decision was made based on the witch hunt, though. If no one had cared, orb would still be with EG.

How do you know that? As I recall the only change in decision came because of the screenshots, and in them were enough to make a principled change in decision.
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-01 19:09:13
May 01 2012 19:08 GMT
#1592
nvm
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thatsundowner
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada312 Posts
May 01 2012 19:09 GMT
#1593
On May 02 2012 04:08 Kich wrote:
So, did everyone forget that part of Destiny's joining of Quantic was that Quantic would be completely compliant with his streaming habits? I thought that was established long ago.


Are you fucking serious? In that case, Quantic deserves to lose all sponsorships. That's disgusting.
"you're gonna fail" in latin
IMABUNNEH
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1062 Posts
May 01 2012 19:09 GMT
#1594
On May 02 2012 04:02 Orracle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 03:55 IMABUNNEH wrote:
On May 02 2012 03:53 Arcanefrost wrote:
You are being oversensitive. People are not in their right mind just after losing a game, and that combined with the easy and unpersonal hit-and-run possibilities of the internet will lead to unmeant insults.


Normal people are perhaps not in their right mind.

People who play games as a career are completely capable of maintaining themselves after a loss, or they wouldn't be in that position.


So when you see people like MKP sit in the booth and cry after a loss, they shouldn't be doing that? Destiny is expressing his displeasure in a different way. If the original poster really got offended over what some one on the internet said to him, he needs to take a step back and examine his life. The problem isn't with Destiny, it's with him.


No for 2 reasons:

1) MKP with his head in his arms is his own PERSONAL emotion. He's not directing it at people, he's not dragging other people into the fact that he lost. He's upset at himself, not raging at his opponent.

2) If I was playing Destiny and I got called a nigger or a gook, I'd take some amount of offense at least. If I was playing MKP and after the match he had a little cry, that's not offensive to anyone.


There's a difference between expressing emotion, being mad or sad that you lost, being pissed at a cheese tactic etc, and raging/flaming/spouting racial slurs at your opponents.
"I think...now? No rival. Me world champion. Yeah. None rival." - oGsMC
SolHeiM
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1264 Posts
May 01 2012 19:09 GMT
#1595
On May 02 2012 04:08 Roe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 04:05 SolHeiM wrote:
On May 02 2012 04:03 Roe wrote:
On May 02 2012 04:00 SolHeiM wrote:
On May 02 2012 03:58 Megaliskuu wrote:
On May 02 2012 03:56 sad.wish wrote:
On May 02 2012 03:54 Megaliskuu wrote:
On May 02 2012 03:53 sad.wish wrote:
On May 02 2012 03:52 Megaliskuu wrote:
On May 02 2012 03:51 sad.wish wrote:
Orb has been a personality in our community since Beta
Destiny on the other hand, has been a nuissance and its almost disrespectful to us.

Since they did a witchhunt on Orb, for 1 little thing.
I think Destiny deserves a witchhunt for his whole career....

I won't stop till something is done about this kid, finally.
A lot of us been fed up with this guy for a long time.


Lol if you don't like it, don't watch. Its so simple!



I don't watch, ever . LOL
who said i watch him?


So why do you care so much, why have you been "fed up with him for such a long time'? If someone used racist terms in RL you probably wouldn't do a damn thing, but someone says gook in a video game and suddenly you think something must be done and his career must end.

Strong priorities in TL kids.


How come orb's career got ruined for 1 thing?
Why shouldn't this be applied to Destiny?


You think I supported the orb witchhunt at all? It was just another case of sad white knights having nothing better to do than to jump on someone and ruin them.


The orb witchhunt was 99% people saying "black people should be offended by the word nigger, therefore I am going to join the hunt! Now where did I leave that pitchfork? And where's my torch?"

Absolutely fucking ridiculous how people will do their best to fuck someone else in the ass when they really aren't affected by what happens in any way what so ever.

That may be true, but it has no bearing on the validity of Orb's firing. The "witch hunt" wasn't the one making the decisions.


A decision was made based on the witch hunt, though. If no one had cared, orb would still be with EG.

How do you know that? As I recall the only change in decision came because of the screenshots, and in them were enough to make a principled change in decision.


They acted because people cared. If no one gave a shit, nothing would've happened.
ES.Genie
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1370 Posts
May 01 2012 19:10 GMT
#1596
On May 02 2012 04:04 ThomasHobbes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 03:47 Fueled wrote:
I'm starting to think that NonY was right when he said we appreciate the drama more than we appreciate the game. The fact that there is always ~3,000 viewers for his stream, even though he is a low/mid-tier pro at best, is a testament to the fact that some people actually like his crude brand of humor. Let them have it.

This exactly.

I always thought it was funny how some of these streamers that are top tier players get less then 1k viewers.

Look at Axslav for example. He isn't top tier just yet, but he's getting there. He explains exactly why he is doing things, why he lost and what exactly he is scouting/looking for and how exactly he plans on countering it. He is probably one of the more influential players out there for Protoss players. But now how many viewers does he get? I don't think I've ever seen him get over 1k viewers. Which is a shame since he is one of the better streamers out there.


People like personality, that's a fact of life.

Idra rages and Stephano is known for being arrogant, both of them enjoy huge popularity when compared to equally skilled Korean Zergs.

Wtf? A raging kid is a huge personality? Haha, what's wrong with people in this thread?
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10004 Posts
May 01 2012 19:10 GMT
#1597
On May 02 2012 04:06 Primadog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 04:04 mTwTT1 wrote:
On May 01 2012 23:28 ssg wrote:
On May 01 2012 23:26 ZenithM wrote:
On May 01 2012 23:22 noax wrote:
Well there are few asian in their team... i'm curious to hear their feeling towards this... especially from (T)Flo well we're going to see what gonna happens... to be honest i don't think it's gonna change or fired him from Quantic... think of it as a cooler and nicer (T)IdrA...

Bad comparison for the situation at hand, I don't think IdrA ever pulled racist slang words like that in his famous "IdrA rage" comments.

Maybe a "French-Canadians...in general...seem a bit off." on his stream but that's about it :D

Tt1 needs to make a thread on this travesty


i think your right.. ive been opressed by idrajit for far too long


Do you have a rss feed setup that alerts you when anyone on the internet that types T T 1 in a row?


no i search my name on content only LOL, i know its really bad
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oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5527 Posts
May 01 2012 19:10 GMT
#1598
On May 02 2012 04:06 thatsundowner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 03:57 Arghmyliver wrote:
There is a popular adage -

Stick and stones may break my bones,
But words can never hurt me.

The moral being - shit can only bring you down if you let it.

If you WANT it to mean something horrible, then it always will. And that's a fact.

If I called you Hot Dog and you took it as an offensive term for males, you know?
You can let this shit get to you, or you can think to yourself "Gee I made him angry, SUCCESS!"


Except the words we're talking about already do mean something terrible. You don't have to take them that way, the words are being used because they're horrible slurs for a certain group of people. You can swear up and down that you don't mean it in that way, but you chose that word for a reason.

Words like nigger and faggot didn't always carry power as vehicles of racism. But I think they will for a long time in the future so long as people refuse to accept that they are used in other senses.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
ale_jrb
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom72 Posts
May 01 2012 19:11 GMT
#1599
On May 02 2012 04:08 Derrida wrote:
It's incredible this is still being labeled as a witch hunt of people who have nothing better to do with their lives than to ruin an "established figure" of Starcraft II scene.


But that's what it is...
IMABUNNEH
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1062 Posts
May 01 2012 19:11 GMT
#1600
On May 02 2012 04:06 Castor385 wrote:
Quite the hipocracy to be offended by a stream that warns you up front for explicit language.

If you don't like it, confront the person or stop watching.

User was warned for this post



What about being offended because you played AGAINST Destiny and were on the receiving end of that shit?
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