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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On May 04 2012 13:43 holy_war wrote: OKC is a very tough matchup for the Lakers period. I don't know how much having MWP will help. Yeah, having Metta World Peace would definitely help though, and you take any advantage you can get. Although I agree you shouldn't throw games away, don't wanna risk fucking up and losing the series. | ||
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RowdierBob
Australia12939 Posts
Robin Lundberg @robinlundberg Don't worry. Carmelo won't punch a fire extinguisher. He'll grab it, hold it for a while and then shoot it. | ||
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iKill[ShocK]
Vietnam3530 Posts
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Man with a Plan
United States401 Posts
lol. yeah pretty stupid for amare | ||
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Vindicare605
United States16055 Posts
On May 04 2012 13:15 RowdierBob wrote: It sounds nice in theory, but it isn't going to happen. The Lakers aren't good enough to pick and choose which games they want to win. Obviously Denver still has fight left, but I was just jumping ahead and asking the big what if question. Denver has historically been much better at home although this team seems to play better on the road. I don't know. I think the Lakers can beat OKC. If they could do it with that odd line up they won with back at Staples they could do it with their primary line up. OKC has had the luxury of catching the Lakers repeatedly (at least twice) on the second of back to backs. Which works a lot better for them because they're a younger team. They also benefit greatly from foul calls that probably won't be called in the playoffs. It's a tough match up to call either way. Both sides have their advantages and both have their disadvantages. When the two teams meet it'll be a great match up. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
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Kaesebrot
Germany128 Posts
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Roggay
Switzerland6320 Posts
On May 04 2012 16:57 Vindicare605 wrote: Obviously Denver still has fight left, but I was just jumping ahead and asking the big what if question. Denver has historically been much better at home although this team seems to play better on the road. I don't know. I think the Lakers can beat OKC. If they could do it with that odd line up they won with back at Staples they could do it with their primary line up. OKC has had the luxury of catching the Lakers repeatedly (at least twice) on the second of back to backs. Which works a lot better for them because they're a younger team. They also benefit greatly from foul calls that probably won't be called in the playoffs. It's a tough match up to call either way. Both sides have their advantages and both have their disadvantages. When the two teams meet it'll be a great match up. The Lakers benefit greatly from foul calls too, just saying. | ||
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holy_war
United States3590 Posts
On May 04 2012 16:57 Vindicare605 wrote: Obviously Denver still has fight left, but I was just jumping ahead and asking the big what if question. Denver has historically been much better at home although this team seems to play better on the road. I don't know. I think the Lakers can beat OKC. If they could do it with that odd line up they won with back at Staples they could do it with their primary line up. OKC has had the luxury of catching the Lakers repeatedly (at least twice) on the second of back to backs. Which works a lot better for them because they're a younger team. They also benefit greatly from foul calls that probably won't be called in the playoffs. It's a tough match up to call either way. Both sides have their advantages and both have their disadvantages. When the two teams meet it'll be a great match up. I'm a Lakers fan and I certainly think the Lakers are capable of knocking out the Thunder, it's going to be very hard. You can't really judge the last Lakers/Thunder game because of MWP's KO on James Harden. The Thunder would've won pretty easily if Harden was still in the game. Kobe can guard Westbrook, but KD and Harden are match up nightmares. And Perkins somehow manages to do pretty decently vs Bynum down in the paint. Can't wait for the series though, I love being heckled by the Thunder fans in OKC. | ||
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MassHysteria
United States3678 Posts
On May 05 2012 03:03 holy_war wrote: Haha. Props if you go to a game in Lakers gear overthere.I'm a Lakers fan and I certainly think the Lakers are capable of knocking out the Thunder, it's going to be very hard. You can't really judge the last Lakers/Thunder game because of MWP's KO on James Harden. The Thunder would've won pretty easily if Harden was still in the game. Kobe can guard Westbrook, but KD and Harden are match up nightmares. And Perkins somehow manages to do pretty decently vs Bynum down in the paint. Can't wait for the series though, I love being heckled by the Thunder fans in OKC. Anderson wins MIP I guess. <shrug> | ||
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
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ranshaked
United States870 Posts
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XaI)CyRiC
United States4471 Posts
On May 05 2012 08:16 ranshaked wrote: Isn't Anderson also in the top ten for offensive rebounds? Who else had a comeback year like he did? Comeback year? What did he comeback from? I think Anderson is deserving, but I personally think there were more deserving players. Anderson really didn't do anything this season that he didn't do last season, he just did it more often because he got more PT. His %s are pretty much the same, and the only categories he really improved in were PTS and REB which were tied almost entirely to increased time on the court. He's still doing the same things on the court, i.e. shooting 3s and rebounding, and didn't improve much if at all in the other areas of his game, i.e. AST, STL, BLK, TO. There's no denying Anderson has morphed into an elite role player this season, but he was already a very good one last season and benefited largely from increased PT. Saying he's not the most improved player this season speaks more to how good he was last season than how good he is this season. He's the same good player doing the same good things, except spread over an increased amount of time. | ||
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XaI)CyRiC
United States4471 Posts
On May 05 2012 08:13 Holcan wrote: he played more minutes in a shortened season without dropping in shooting percentages, while dwight was being a prima donna, that's improving....essentially he went from a pretty good stretch four to one of the best pure shooters in the league. As much as D12 created drama, it's not like he stopped playing or sucking up defenses like he was last year. There's no reason why Anderson's game should have been affected by Dwight's issues. He got more opportunities and did what he had been doing last season. I don't see any evidence that he improved as a shooter in his %s. If he's one of the best pure shooters in the league this season, then he should have been considered the same last season as well because his shot was just as ridiculously good in more limited PT. | ||
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Holcan
Canada2593 Posts
maybe I'm vastly over estimating what 10 extra minutes would do to someone over the course of a shortened season, but it really doesn't feel like it. plus ersan, munroe, peko, lin and bradley all have the opportunity to prove themselves next year to withstand the rigors of playing consistent 30 minutes in the nba. | ||
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justinpal
United States3810 Posts
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XaI)CyRiC
United States4471 Posts
On May 05 2012 09:16 Holcan wrote: you don't think adding minutes while not dropped percentages, while playing more back to backs isn't improving? not many people outside of lebron james, steve nash and ray allen did it on the level anderson did this year, i doubt you would place him on this echelon of players after last, but he has placed himself there this year. maybe I'm vastly over estimating what 10 extra minutes would do to someone over the course of a shortened season, but it really doesn't feel like it. plus ersan, munroe, peko, lin and bradley all have the opportunity to prove themselves next year to withstand the rigors of playing consistent 30 minutes in the nba. I feel like the back-to-back and impacted schedule factor shouldn't really matter because all of the candidates had to deal with it. Again, Anderson didn't really add anything to his game from last year to this year, and his performance is not really that different except for the amount of time he did it in. I just don't think he's a much improved player, he was just that great before and was being underutilized. Taking a wait and see approach with the award doesn't seem fair or in the spirit of the award either. If you hold off on the award for those guys to wait and see if they replicate their improvement next season, then they'll be penalized for not having made a dramatic "jump" during that season. The award is supposed to be given to players who made the jump for that particular season, not a player who made a jump the prior season and maintained it for the season the award is given. | ||
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