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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
May 04 2012 06:10 GMT
#781
On May 04 2012 13:43 holy_war wrote:
OKC is a very tough matchup for the Lakers period. I don't know how much having MWP will help.

Yeah, having Metta World Peace would definitely help though, and you take any advantage you can get. Although I agree you shouldn't throw games away, don't wanna risk fucking up and losing the series.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13305 Posts
May 04 2012 06:27 GMT
#782
Sometimes it's just not fair:

Robin Lundberg ‏ @robinlundberg
Don't worry. Carmelo won't punch a fire extinguisher. He'll grab it, hold it for a while and then shoot it.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
May 04 2012 06:34 GMT
#783
having lamar odumb would probably help the Lakers vs OKC, match-up nightmare, too bad, so sad. hopefully the Mavs will take it to 7 just to tire out OKC
<3 Kim Taeyeon
Man with a Plan
Profile Joined January 2012
United States401 Posts
May 04 2012 06:34 GMT
#784
On May 04 2012 15:27 RowdierBob wrote:
Sometimes it's just not fair:

Show nested quote +
Robin Lundberg ‏ @robinlundberg
Don't worry. Carmelo won't punch a fire extinguisher. He'll grab it, hold it for a while and then shoot it.

lol. yeah pretty stupid for amare
Yo!
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
May 04 2012 07:57 GMT
#785
On May 04 2012 13:15 RowdierBob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 13:00 Vindicare605 wrote:
You know I'm starting to think that it's in the Lakers' best interest to NOT sweep the Nuggets. That way they'll have Artest for when they eventually have to face off with OKC.

If they sweep Denver they'll be missing their best defender on Durant for the first two games in OKC.

I dunno.


It sounds nice in theory, but it isn't going to happen. The Lakers aren't good enough to pick and choose which games they want to win.


Obviously Denver still has fight left, but I was just jumping ahead and asking the big what if question.

Denver has historically been much better at home although this team seems to play better on the road. I don't know.

I think the Lakers can beat OKC. If they could do it with that odd line up they won with back at Staples they could do it with their primary line up.

OKC has had the luxury of catching the Lakers repeatedly (at least twice) on the second of back to backs. Which works a lot better for them because they're a younger team. They also benefit greatly from foul calls that probably won't be called in the playoffs.

It's a tough match up to call either way. Both sides have their advantages and both have their disadvantages. When the two teams meet it'll be a great match up.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-04 08:45:08
May 04 2012 08:44 GMT
#786
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
May 04 2012 09:52 GMT
#787
The Nuggets and Jazz foul too much in the playoffs in place of defense. Which is really bad against good free throw shooters like Kobe or Durant.
Kaesebrot
Profile Joined April 2012
Germany128 Posts
May 04 2012 12:55 GMT
#788
*sigh* Oh Dallas. I hoped the would at least take this series to Game 6
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
May 04 2012 15:34 GMT
#789
On May 04 2012 16:57 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 13:15 RowdierBob wrote:
On May 04 2012 13:00 Vindicare605 wrote:
You know I'm starting to think that it's in the Lakers' best interest to NOT sweep the Nuggets. That way they'll have Artest for when they eventually have to face off with OKC.

If they sweep Denver they'll be missing their best defender on Durant for the first two games in OKC.

I dunno.


It sounds nice in theory, but it isn't going to happen. The Lakers aren't good enough to pick and choose which games they want to win.


Obviously Denver still has fight left, but I was just jumping ahead and asking the big what if question.

Denver has historically been much better at home although this team seems to play better on the road. I don't know.

I think the Lakers can beat OKC. If they could do it with that odd line up they won with back at Staples they could do it with their primary line up.

OKC has had the luxury of catching the Lakers repeatedly (at least twice) on the second of back to backs. Which works a lot better for them because they're a younger team. They also benefit greatly from foul calls that probably won't be called in the playoffs.

It's a tough match up to call either way. Both sides have their advantages and both have their disadvantages. When the two teams meet it'll be a great match up.

The Lakers benefit greatly from foul calls too, just saying.
holy_war
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States3590 Posts
May 04 2012 18:03 GMT
#790
On May 04 2012 16:57 Vindicare605 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 13:15 RowdierBob wrote:
On May 04 2012 13:00 Vindicare605 wrote:
You know I'm starting to think that it's in the Lakers' best interest to NOT sweep the Nuggets. That way they'll have Artest for when they eventually have to face off with OKC.

If they sweep Denver they'll be missing their best defender on Durant for the first two games in OKC.

I dunno.


It sounds nice in theory, but it isn't going to happen. The Lakers aren't good enough to pick and choose which games they want to win.


Obviously Denver still has fight left, but I was just jumping ahead and asking the big what if question.

Denver has historically been much better at home although this team seems to play better on the road. I don't know.

I think the Lakers can beat OKC. If they could do it with that odd line up they won with back at Staples they could do it with their primary line up.

OKC has had the luxury of catching the Lakers repeatedly (at least twice) on the second of back to backs. Which works a lot better for them because they're a younger team. They also benefit greatly from foul calls that probably won't be called in the playoffs.

It's a tough match up to call either way. Both sides have their advantages and both have their disadvantages. When the two teams meet it'll be a great match up.


I'm a Lakers fan and I certainly think the Lakers are capable of knocking out the Thunder, it's going to be very hard. You can't really judge the last Lakers/Thunder game because of MWP's KO on James Harden. The Thunder would've won pretty easily if Harden was still in the game. Kobe can guard Westbrook, but KD and Harden are match up nightmares. And Perkins somehow manages to do pretty decently vs Bynum down in the paint.

Can't wait for the series though, I love being heckled by the Thunder fans in OKC.
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
May 04 2012 18:08 GMT
#791
On May 05 2012 03:03 holy_war wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2012 16:57 Vindicare605 wrote:
On May 04 2012 13:15 RowdierBob wrote:
On May 04 2012 13:00 Vindicare605 wrote:
You know I'm starting to think that it's in the Lakers' best interest to NOT sweep the Nuggets. That way they'll have Artest for when they eventually have to face off with OKC.

If they sweep Denver they'll be missing their best defender on Durant for the first two games in OKC.

I dunno.


It sounds nice in theory, but it isn't going to happen. The Lakers aren't good enough to pick and choose which games they want to win.


Obviously Denver still has fight left, but I was just jumping ahead and asking the big what if question.

Denver has historically been much better at home although this team seems to play better on the road. I don't know.

I think the Lakers can beat OKC. If they could do it with that odd line up they won with back at Staples they could do it with their primary line up.

OKC has had the luxury of catching the Lakers repeatedly (at least twice) on the second of back to backs. Which works a lot better for them because they're a younger team. They also benefit greatly from foul calls that probably won't be called in the playoffs.

It's a tough match up to call either way. Both sides have their advantages and both have their disadvantages. When the two teams meet it'll be a great match up.


I'm a Lakers fan and I certainly think the Lakers are capable of knocking out the Thunder, it's going to be very hard. You can't really judge the last Lakers/Thunder game because of MWP's KO on James Harden. The Thunder would've won pretty easily if Harden was still in the game. Kobe can guard Westbrook, but KD and Harden are match up nightmares. And Perkins somehow manages to do pretty decently vs Bynum down in the paint.

Can't wait for the series though, I love being heckled by the Thunder fans in OKC.
Haha. Props if you go to a game in Lakers gear overthere.

Anderson wins MIP I guess. <shrug>
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
May 04 2012 20:07 GMT
#792
Don't really agree with that. His increase in points have come with an increase in minutes, but practically all of his other stats are the same. Would rather have someone like Lin win it but w/e.
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
May 04 2012 21:48 GMT
#793
It seems like Lin was not even considered judging by the second and third place votes. I'm ok with that though. I'd rather all of them decide whether someone is eligible one way or another rather than pell-mell voting.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
May 04 2012 23:13 GMT
#794
he played more minutes in a shortened season without dropping in shooting percentages, while dwight was being a prima donna, that's improving....essentially he went from a pretty good stretch four to one of the best pure shooters in the league.
Reference The Inadvertant Joey, Strong talented orchastrasted intelligent character.
ranshaked
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States870 Posts
May 04 2012 23:16 GMT
#795
Isn't Anderson also in the top ten for offensive rebounds? Who else had a comeback year like he did?
XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-05 00:02:43
May 04 2012 23:58 GMT
#796
On May 05 2012 08:16 ranshaked wrote:
Isn't Anderson also in the top ten for offensive rebounds? Who else had a comeback year like he did?


Comeback year? What did he comeback from?

I think Anderson is deserving, but I personally think there were more deserving players. Anderson really didn't do anything this season that he didn't do last season, he just did it more often because he got more PT. His %s are pretty much the same, and the only categories he really improved in were PTS and REB which were tied almost entirely to increased time on the court. He's still doing the same things on the court, i.e. shooting 3s and rebounding, and didn't improve much if at all in the other areas of his game, i.e. AST, STL, BLK, TO.

There's no denying Anderson has morphed into an elite role player this season, but he was already a very good one last season and benefited largely from increased PT. Saying he's not the most improved player this season speaks more to how good he was last season than how good he is this season. He's the same good player doing the same good things, except spread over an increased amount of time.

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XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
May 05 2012 00:01 GMT
#797
On May 05 2012 08:13 Holcan wrote:
he played more minutes in a shortened season without dropping in shooting percentages, while dwight was being a prima donna, that's improving....essentially he went from a pretty good stretch four to one of the best pure shooters in the league.


As much as D12 created drama, it's not like he stopped playing or sucking up defenses like he was last year. There's no reason why Anderson's game should have been affected by Dwight's issues. He got more opportunities and did what he had been doing last season.

I don't see any evidence that he improved as a shooter in his %s. If he's one of the best pure shooters in the league this season, then he should have been considered the same last season as well because his shot was just as ridiculously good in more limited PT.
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Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
May 05 2012 00:16 GMT
#798
you don't think adding minutes while not dropped percentages, while playing more back to backs isn't improving? not many people outside of lebron james, steve nash and ray allen did it on the level anderson did this year, i doubt you would place him on this echelon of players after last, but he has placed himself there this year.


maybe I'm vastly over estimating what 10 extra minutes would do to someone over the course of a shortened season, but it really doesn't feel like it. plus ersan, munroe, peko, lin and bradley all have the opportunity to prove themselves next year to withstand the rigors of playing consistent 30 minutes in the nba.
Reference The Inadvertant Joey, Strong talented orchastrasted intelligent character.
justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
May 05 2012 00:39 GMT
#799
Is it just me or is the Boston/Atlanta game the slowest game I have ever seen? --;;
Never make a hydralisk.
XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
May 05 2012 00:41 GMT
#800
On May 05 2012 09:16 Holcan wrote:
you don't think adding minutes while not dropped percentages, while playing more back to backs isn't improving? not many people outside of lebron james, steve nash and ray allen did it on the level anderson did this year, i doubt you would place him on this echelon of players after last, but he has placed himself there this year.


maybe I'm vastly over estimating what 10 extra minutes would do to someone over the course of a shortened season, but it really doesn't feel like it. plus ersan, munroe, peko, lin and bradley all have the opportunity to prove themselves next year to withstand the rigors of playing consistent 30 minutes in the nba.


I feel like the back-to-back and impacted schedule factor shouldn't really matter because all of the candidates had to deal with it. Again, Anderson didn't really add anything to his game from last year to this year, and his performance is not really that different except for the amount of time he did it in. I just don't think he's a much improved player, he was just that great before and was being underutilized.

Taking a wait and see approach with the award doesn't seem fair or in the spirit of the award either. If you hold off on the award for those guys to wait and see if they replicate their improvement next season, then they'll be penalized for not having made a dramatic "jump" during that season. The award is supposed to be given to players who made the jump for that particular season, not a player who made a jump the prior season and maintained it for the season the award is given.
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