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Cassel_Castle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States820 Posts
April 21 2012 07:36 GMT
#121
On April 21 2012 14:40 YMCApylons wrote:
In SC2, Protoss play needs a big kick in the pants away from 2-base timing pushes...Bisu/Stork, please show the way.

Don't switch to terran, Bisu! Your insane APM will serve you well, but I think you'll love warp gates more.


Bisu and Stork will make Huk, MC, and Hero look like chobos with warp prisms.
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
April 21 2012 07:46 GMT
#122
holy shit..

hope NOT !!!
T H C makes ppl happy
NguN
Profile Joined August 2009
Australia1322 Posts
April 21 2012 07:48 GMT
#123
On April 21 2012 16:36 Cassel_Castle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 14:40 YMCApylons wrote:
In SC2, Protoss play needs a big kick in the pants away from 2-base timing pushes...Bisu/Stork, please show the way.

Don't switch to terran, Bisu! Your insane APM will serve you well, but I think you'll love warp gates more.


Bisu and Stork will make Huk, MC, and Hero look like chobos with warp prisms.


You mean Stork with his 200ish apm..?

Bisu I can understand, but Stork was never known for his harassment
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6259 Posts
April 21 2012 07:54 GMT
#124
If Bisu switched, I would go from hater to fanboy :p
LightAngels
Profile Joined April 2010
United States299 Posts
April 21 2012 08:15 GMT
#125
On April 21 2012 16:48 NguN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 16:36 Cassel_Castle wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:40 YMCApylons wrote:
In SC2, Protoss play needs a big kick in the pants away from 2-base timing pushes...Bisu/Stork, please show the way.

Don't switch to terran, Bisu! Your insane APM will serve you well, but I think you'll love warp gates more.


Bisu and Stork will make Huk, MC, and Hero look like chobos with warp prisms.


You mean Stork with his 200ish apm..?

Bisu I can understand, but Stork was never known for his harassment


His godly well-known Shuttle-Reaver play => Colossus-Warp Prisms ?
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
April 21 2012 08:18 GMT
#126
On April 21 2012 17:15 LightAngels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 16:48 NguN wrote:
On April 21 2012 16:36 Cassel_Castle wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:40 YMCApylons wrote:
In SC2, Protoss play needs a big kick in the pants away from 2-base timing pushes...Bisu/Stork, please show the way.

Don't switch to terran, Bisu! Your insane APM will serve you well, but I think you'll love warp gates more.


Bisu and Stork will make Huk, MC, and Hero look like chobos with warp prisms.


You mean Stork with his 200ish apm..?

Bisu I can understand, but Stork was never known for his harassment


His godly well-known Shuttle-Reaver play => Colossus-Warp Prisms ?

Except that Colossus-Warp Prism play is completely pointless and redundant. Maybe he might be better with some other Warp Prism tricks, but definitely not Colossus-Warp Prism.

To be honest, I think the majority of top SC2 Protoss players have poor Warp Prism control.
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NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
April 21 2012 08:25 GMT
#127
Even though I am not entirely excited that Bisu will switch races, at the very least I can anticipate some fantastic games coming from these BW elites as soon as they switch to SC2.
SuperNova - 2015 | SKT1 fan for years | Dear, FlaSh, PartinG, Soulkey, Naniwa
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
April 21 2012 08:38 GMT
#128
It'd be a better choice for him, protoss just wouldnt let him show his true skill. Disappointing in a way, but on the other hand I'd be sort of disappointed if he played protoss in its current state too.
43084 | Honeybadger: "So july, you're in the GSL finals. How do you feel?!" ~ July: "HUNGRY."
Herry
Profile Joined March 2011
England681 Posts
April 21 2012 08:39 GMT
#129
Am i the only one who is really damn excited to see what kind of different playstyle these guys will have when compared to the current SC2 pros, how they will approach the game, what strats they will use.

I can't wait!
huehuehuehue
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Estonia455 Posts
April 21 2012 08:50 GMT
#130
I hope that we will see some nice phoenix play (even in the mid-lategame) by the BW protosses.
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
April 21 2012 08:54 GMT
#131
On April 21 2012 17:15 LightAngels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 16:48 NguN wrote:
On April 21 2012 16:36 Cassel_Castle wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:40 YMCApylons wrote:
In SC2, Protoss play needs a big kick in the pants away from 2-base timing pushes...Bisu/Stork, please show the way.

Don't switch to terran, Bisu! Your insane APM will serve you well, but I think you'll love warp gates more.


Bisu and Stork will make Huk, MC, and Hero look like chobos with warp prisms.


You mean Stork with his 200ish apm..?

Bisu I can understand, but Stork was never known for his harassment


His godly well-known Shuttle-Reaver play => Colossus-Warp Prisms ?

Colossus-Warp Prism is utterly useless. I watched a clip of HerO doing a colossus drop on a mineral line once, and though it was relatively impressive and I admired him for trying to inject some interesting harass in the otherwise dull game, it took a really long time (every time he dropped it, it killed like, 1 or 2 SCVs at a time), and wasn't particularly effective. Nothing like a reaver drop which has the potential to wipe out 10 workers in one explosion, or a BW storm drop that completely decimates a person's economy in 3 seconds. Storm drops in SC2, though certainly possible, are also kind of underwhelming. The radius is tiny, the damage is lower. Doesn't it take like, 4+ storms to cover a mineral line and the likely escape route?
Writer:o
LightAngels
Profile Joined April 2010
United States299 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-21 09:14:43
April 21 2012 09:05 GMT
#132
On April 21 2012 17:54 Kiett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 17:15 LightAngels wrote:
On April 21 2012 16:48 NguN wrote:
On April 21 2012 16:36 Cassel_Castle wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:40 YMCApylons wrote:
In SC2, Protoss play needs a big kick in the pants away from 2-base timing pushes...Bisu/Stork, please show the way.

Don't switch to terran, Bisu! Your insane APM will serve you well, but I think you'll love warp gates more.


Bisu and Stork will make Huk, MC, and Hero look like chobos with warp prisms.


You mean Stork with his 200ish apm..?

Bisu I can understand, but Stork was never known for his harassment


His godly well-known Shuttle-Reaver play => Colossus-Warp Prisms ?

Colossus-Warp Prism is utterly useless. I watched a clip of HerO doing a colossus drop on a mineral line once, and though it was relatively impressive and I admired him for trying to inject some interesting harass in the otherwise dull game, it took a really long time (every time he dropped it, it killed like, 1 or 2 SCVs at a time), and wasn't particularly effective. Nothing like a reaver drop which has the potential to wipe out 10 workers in one explosion, or a BW storm drop that completely decimates a person's economy in 3 seconds. Storm drops in SC2, though certainly possible, are also kind of underwhelming. The radius is tiny, the damage is lower. Doesn't it take like, 4+ storms to cover a mineral line and the likely escape route?


I didn't argue over the effectiveness of Warp prism - colossus play.

On April 21 2012 16:36 Cassel_Castle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 14:40 YMCApylons wrote:
In SC2, Protoss play needs a big kick in the pants away from 2-base timing pushes...Bisu/Stork, please show the way.

Don't switch to terran, Bisu! Your insane APM will serve you well, but I think you'll love warp gates more.


Bisu and Stork will make Huk, MC, and Hero look like chobos with warp prisms.


and

On April 21 2012 16:48 NguN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 16:36 Cassel_Castle wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:40 YMCApylons wrote:
In SC2, Protoss play needs a big kick in the pants away from 2-base timing pushes...Bisu/Stork, please show the way.

Don't switch to terran, Bisu! Your insane APM will serve you well, but I think you'll love warp gates more.


Bisu and Stork will make Huk, MC, and Hero look like chobos with warp prisms.


You mean Stork with his 200ish apm..?

Bisu I can understand, but Stork was never known for his harassment


My point is that with the goddamnslow 200 apm, Stork is well known for his shuttle reaver control, surely, better than Bisu. So, then, in SCII, he will show his Warp Prisms-anyunit control, why not ? And that man said he can understand about the Bisu part and !@#$%^&*() about Stork ? lol ?



I just got mad since someone dares to underestimate Stork even with his 200ish APM. And Warp Prisms - Colossus was just an example

Archers_bane
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1338 Posts
April 21 2012 09:10 GMT
#133
Bisu marines and nukes?! lol
Starcraft's BW glory days have passed, RIP Jaedong's dominance - 2013...EDIT 2017: WE BACK BOYS
Neurosis
Profile Joined October 2010
United States893 Posts
April 21 2012 09:12 GMT
#134
Bisu shouldn't be allowed to play Terran in sc2 (lol). That is by far the last thing we need, another korean terran gosu winning everything.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-21 09:25:53
April 21 2012 09:23 GMT
#135
On April 21 2012 17:54 Kiett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 17:15 LightAngels wrote:
On April 21 2012 16:48 NguN wrote:
On April 21 2012 16:36 Cassel_Castle wrote:
On April 21 2012 14:40 YMCApylons wrote:
In SC2, Protoss play needs a big kick in the pants away from 2-base timing pushes...Bisu/Stork, please show the way.

Don't switch to terran, Bisu! Your insane APM will serve you well, but I think you'll love warp gates more.


Bisu and Stork will make Huk, MC, and Hero look like chobos with warp prisms.


You mean Stork with his 200ish apm..?

Bisu I can understand, but Stork was never known for his harassment


His godly well-known Shuttle-Reaver play => Colossus-Warp Prisms ?

Colossus-Warp Prism is utterly useless. I watched a clip of HerO doing a colossus drop on a mineral line once, and though it was relatively impressive and I admired him for trying to inject some interesting harass in the otherwise dull game, it took a really long time (every time he dropped it, it killed like, 1 or 2 SCVs at a time), and wasn't particularly effective. Nothing like a reaver drop which has the potential to wipe out 10 workers in one explosion, or a BW storm drop that completely decimates a person's economy in 3 seconds. Storm drops in SC2, though certainly possible, are also kind of underwhelming. The radius is tiny, the damage is lower. Doesn't it take like, 4+ storms to cover a mineral line and the likely escape route?


Drones have 40 hp, and SCVs have 45 hp (HTemplars in PvP sucks) and Storm deals 80damage/4sec.
It takes 2 (well-placed) storms to cover an entire mineral line, so it would probably require 3 storms if people react in time.
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phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
April 21 2012 09:29 GMT
#136
If Bisu switch to Terran, they will NEVER get buffed again. Imagine Flash, Bisu, IMmvp (prolly wont even win another gsl once sc1 pros switch) and MMA as the leader for the terran race =) they will make even the BCs imba under their godly control. If Jaedong was to go terran too, then the win rate for gsl/kespa league will be terran 100% while anyone below S class level (not code S) will have 0% win rate with them because everything Flash/Bisu/Jaedong use balance =)
wassbix
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada499 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-21 09:41:19
April 21 2012 09:36 GMT
#137
On April 21 2012 15:09 Lightwip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 10:30 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I wonder what lightwip has to say about this.....:p

I consider SC2 to be a non-canon fan-made version of starcraft.


What kinda shitty fan would produce something so horrible?

Fantasy switching to zerg gave me flash back of that Allstars game where he had to play JD with switched races, and JD mnm'd him to death
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
April 21 2012 09:40 GMT
#138
also, quick note - Ive heard that Fantasy is playing zerg now ?

...
T H C makes ppl happy
BtBEviL
Profile Joined February 2010
Brazil35 Posts
April 21 2012 09:41 GMT
#139
I'll pray everyday to them don't switch to sc2 and just play bw, please god hear me.
MBC Fighting, Stork Fan, Nal_Ra fan, Bisu Fan, Shuttle Fan
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
April 21 2012 09:42 GMT
#140
On April 21 2012 18:36 wassbix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2012 15:09 Lightwip wrote:
On April 21 2012 10:30 BLinD-RawR wrote:
I wonder what lightwip has to say about this.....:p

I consider SC2 to be a non-canon fan-made version of starcraft.


What kinda shitty fan would produce something so horrible?

Fantasy switching to zerg gave me flash back of that Allstars game where he had to play JD with switched races, and JD mnm'd him to death


Dustin bowder man......... he is a damn good fan of starcraft.
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