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TL.net Bot
Profile Joined June 2004
TL.net132 Posts
June 28 2011 00:52 GMT
#15661
Znoz was just temp banned for 2 days by p4NDemik.

That account was created on 2011-01-12 17:14:15 and had 28 posts.

Reason: 3 warnings in the same topic. Take some time off.
TL.net Bot
Profile Joined June 2004
TL.net132 Posts
June 28 2011 00:54 GMT
#15662
Chairman Ray was just temp banned for 2 days by p4NDemik.

That account was created on 2009-12-03 15:12:28 and had 4500 posts.

Reason: Don't answer poor OPs. Especially when the topic is "Are infestors overpowered?" and you answer:

On June 28 2011 09:42 Chairman Ray wrote:
Yes

You've been here long enough, you know better.
TL.net Bot
Profile Joined June 2004
TL.net132 Posts
June 28 2011 00:57 GMT
#15663
brazenraven was just banned by p4NDemik.

That account was created on 2011-05-25 12:50:07 and had 85 posts.

Reason:
On June 28 2011 09:50 brazenraven wrote:
since this is the thread to be retarded in, who's up for removing reapers?

There is no such thread where you can throw away all rules for normally posting here. It applies everywhere, even in horrible threads that are bound to be closed.
TL.net Bot
Profile Joined June 2004
TL.net132 Posts
June 28 2011 00:59 GMT
#15664
brazenraven was just temp banned for 2 days by Hot_Bid.

That account was created on 2011-05-25 12:50:07 and had 85 posts.

Reason: Error fixed.
TL.net Bot
Profile Joined June 2004
TL.net132 Posts
June 28 2011 01:02 GMT
#15665
MonsieurGrimm was just temp banned for 2 days by p4NDemik.

That account was created on 2010-08-14 11:26:37 and had 1593 posts.

Reason:
On June 28 2011 09:43 MonsieurGrimm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 09:42 Chairman Ray wrote:
Yes

no

You also know better.
TL.net Bot
Profile Joined June 2004
TL.net132 Posts
June 28 2011 03:14 GMT
#15666
Terranrape was just temp banned for 2 weeks by Empyrean.

That account was created on 2011-06-28 11:24:36 and had 9 posts.

Reason: Malicious user.
TL.net Bot
Profile Joined June 2004
TL.net132 Posts
June 28 2011 03:59 GMT
#15667
Czarz was just banned by TheMango.

That account was created on 2011-06-28 12:53:32 and had 0 posts.

Reason: Previously banned user.
TL.net Bot
Profile Joined June 2004
TL.net132 Posts
June 28 2011 04:02 GMT
#15668
BlueRoyaL was just temp banned for 2 days by SonuvBob.

That account was created on 2006-02-14 21:54:40 and had 2089 posts.

Reason: DID YOU WIN?!!!
TL.net Bot
Profile Joined June 2004
TL.net132 Posts
June 28 2011 09:02 GMT
#15669
XenoKai was just temp banned for 2 weeks by Empyrean.

That account was created on 2010-11-01 04:39:46 and had 35 posts.

Reason: "Choke on a bag of dicks u heartless piece of shit"

I'm amazed at the amount of warnings and temps you've managed to rack up so far.
TL.net Bot
Profile Joined June 2004
TL.net132 Posts
June 28 2011 10:12 GMT
#15670
Vaeila was just temp banned for 2 weeks by Liquid`Nazgul.

That account was created on 2010-05-18 02:58:09 and had 274 posts.

Reason:
How can you say his english is part of the troll, I've heard the guy cast and hes terrible. He completely ruined HuK vs IdrA at HSC3

after warnings and bans you still continue to post like a giant ass. either change or don't come back.
TL.net Bot
Profile Joined June 2004
TL.net132 Posts
June 28 2011 14:05 GMT
#15671
r3tsa was just temp banned for 2 days by Plexa.

That account was created on 2011-04-22 06:59:48 and had 93 posts.

Reason:
On June 28 2011 05:29 r3tsa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 04:55 Markwerf wrote:
On June 28 2011 04:33 sleepingdog wrote:
On June 28 2011 04:14 Knickknack wrote:
Lets get real here. I will present a specific all around robo build, feel free to point out what the exact issues are at what time. This is comparable to what I considered standard in BW:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=88846

9pylon
13gate-scout
15gas
16pylon
18core
19zealot
22gas
23wg+stalker
25pylon
27sent
30Gate+robo
31p+sent
35pylon, 2units+3rd gate+ob perhaps

-cb 3xprobe, rest wg, then ob (done ~6:15) if making quick
~5:50 6units, probably 2sent/3stalk/1zealot
-If you see pressure from 4gate, don't make ob, but use gas for 3rd sent+stalker, and/or cb immo.
-or if you make fast ob+fast bay, you should be able to scout them in time to cancel bay if you like.


I have a blink build that isn't safe vs 4 gate but hits at 7:30 with 11 stalkers. I use it sometimes against a 3 stalker opening, since those players hardly ever 4 gate me. You won't scout it in time to react if you go obs first, since the obs needs ages to fly across the map. You have to decide, either you go immortal(s) blindly and be behind in case I go fast colossi, or you die vs blink because all your ressources have gone in robo + observer + bay.

This should be neither QQ nor an insult btw.


I really don't see the problem your mentioning. The most aggresive blink builds are easy to stop with a robo build that goes obs first. Just make the obs (chrono'd) and quee an immortal after it. The obs scout's your base or the incoming stalkers in time easily in which case you start chronoing the immortal and make a second one (you can let the robo bay finish). Defending blink stalker pushes with robo even if you made an obs and the robo bay isn't too hard, remember that obs and bay is still cheaper then blink and council..
The only worrisome thing for robo where you really suffer a build order loss is a stargate build which you find out very late. Usually that doesn't happen though and you can cancel the immortal and robo bay just fine then and only be a little behind (change into archon/zealot does quite well actually).

The key for the super safe robo build imo is to go zealot -> sentry -> stalker instead of the usualy zealot -> stalker or just straight up stalker. Yes sentry is less good for anti-scouting but that doesn't matter as much as it seems because 1) the probe will usually pull back out of fear of the stalker anyway 2) if you spread the pylons in your base a little it's quite easy to throw down the robo where the probe isn't 3) even if robo is scouted it isn't too bad as robo is really versatile, you can always go obs alone into blink which still does well against stargate.

I expect the recent and upcoming evolvement in PvP to be away from 4gates more and into lots of 2 gate robo builds. Robo wars are reasonably skillful at least as you can scout quite a bit with your stalkers, still it isn't the most exciting matchup ofcourse.

I really wish the warp prism would be buffed considerably as that might make PvP so much more interesting. Imagine for example if you could just make a warp prism instead of an observer saving yourself some gas and allowing you to do some cute stuff like immortal drops. Just a small nudge like 25 minerals cheaper and 10 seconds faster build time please!


Jesus Christ, robo is skillful? What a a joke, sure mass colossi versus mass colossi and luck doesn't matter.

Secondly why are you not counting robo in your calculation? Robo counter blink only when you play 1g robo, blinkstalker allin sure have got potential to beat any non-DT opening. And your 2gate robo builds are kinda useless, hell even 3 stalker opening is not good at all. You can go 1g robo only if you are not against 20probe hard 4gate with pylons down your ramp, with robo after 1st gateway you can't allow proxy to close or you are screwed. Stargate builds alway got advantage over robo.

Mod Edit: Don't post if you don't know what you're talking about.

User was warned for this post

Mods so good.
Why you felt the need to edit in "Mods so good" I'll never know.
TL.net Bot
Profile Joined June 2004
TL.net132 Posts
June 28 2011 14:56 GMT
#15672
pycho was just temp banned for 1 week by zatic.

That account was created on 2011-01-27 23:20:08 and had 132 posts.

Reason: I'm just going to quote your last ban:

I'm just going to quote your last warning:

Please try to post on teamliquid.net using proper English. This includes spelling out words like "you" and "you're" and appropriate grammar and spelling. If you can't be bothered to make your post readable why should anyone be bothered to read it?

P.S. Calling everyone in a thread a "sick fuck" is not that cool
TL.net Bot
Profile Joined June 2004
TL.net132 Posts
June 28 2011 15:22 GMT
#15673
RimasOwns was just temp banned for 2 days by zatic.

That account was created on 2011-02-25 04:40:19 and had 5 posts.

Reason: Please take these 2 days to read the ten commandments, the strat forum guidelines, and to familiarize yourself how this community works.
TL.net Bot
Profile Joined June 2004
TL.net132 Posts
June 28 2011 17:48 GMT
#15674
aFF.TEEN was just temp banned for 1 week by EvilTeletubby.

That account was created on 2011-05-19 12:49:55 and had 34 posts.

Reason:
On June 28 2011 18:32 aFF.TEEN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2011 18:30 RodrigoX wrote:
On June 28 2011 18:14 aFF.TEEN wrote:

PS: I got a feeling you're playing on US.


Go lose a war frenchie.

Don't see many eu doing well in the gsl now do we. Any french players? You have adel. Big whupp. Don't you dare stereo typicalize us boy. Go eat spoiled cheese and piss on your street corners.

Pretentious morons aside, As to the build, you pretty much need to see what the inbase hatch reaction does to him, and how many sents he can get based off that hard econ reaction. 3 with a 4th comin you're boned. It can be a gamble build like onl if he 6 gates can he get enough sentries, and then you can just metagame with the build, not so much a ladder build.


US server is srs business

Also, I dont know what mental disorder you have, but I feel sorry for you.


I have Bannarhea. Hurts bro.
TL.net Bot
Profile Joined June 2004
TL.net132 Posts
June 28 2011 17:49 GMT
#15675
Hypz was just temp banned for 2 days by EvilTeletubby.

That account was created on 2011-01-18 18:43:27 and had 11 posts.

Reason:
On June 28 2011 19:04 Hypz wrote:
so tranlation,
a derp derpy derp derp sdsdsdsdsdsd when a derpa derp derp 28 drones a derp derpa baneling bust move command into expo derpderp, ifa maka derpa air unit make a derpderp hydra very good derp xdddpppP, make derp damage expo derpderp (Y)!

"a derpaderpderp i play on derp US server" amirite?


Holy shit - this is your 11th post, really? Read our rules before you return.
TL.net Bot
Profile Joined June 2004
TL.net132 Posts
June 28 2011 18:47 GMT
#15676
RodrigoX was just temp banned for 2 days by mrmin123.

That account was created on 2009-11-08 14:56:03 and had 439 posts.

Reason: Please stop being a "pretentious moron."
TL.net Bot
Profile Joined June 2004
TL.net132 Posts
June 28 2011 21:45 GMT
#15677
PieLieDie was just temp banned for 30 days by Puosu.

That account was created on 2010-09-27 01:37:41 and had 129 posts.

Reason:
Herp derp writing a big block of text of nothingness.

Consistent levels of terrible yay woo
TL.net Bot
Profile Joined June 2004
TL.net132 Posts
June 28 2011 22:05 GMT
#15678
loveeholicce was just temp banned for 1 week by Puosu.

That account was created on 2010-12-19 03:05:17 and had 761 posts.

Reason:
On June 29 2011 05:35 loveeholicce wrote:
Attention whoring at its finest. Why the hell wud any1 want to follow u on twitter

Holy damn. Please do leave the unnecessary analness out of your posts in the future.
TL.net Bot
Profile Joined June 2004
TL.net132 Posts
June 28 2011 22:27 GMT
#15679
oblong was just banned by EvilTeletubby.

That account was created on 2011-01-08 10:06:47 and had 86 posts.

Reason:
On June 29 2011 07:05 oblong wrote:
gaaaaaaaaaaaaaay as hell


This post made me review your posting history. The rest of your posts and your warning history made me ban you. It's a vicious chain of events, I admit.
TL.net Bot
Profile Joined June 2004
TL.net132 Posts
June 29 2011 00:48 GMT
#15680
trwp was just banned by TL.net Bot.

That account was created on 2011-06-29 09:40:33 and had 1 posts.

Reason: Advertising.
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