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On June 28 2024 04:15 njleslu2024 wrote:
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In which world Nice and Oliveira are better SC2 players than Cure, soO, Shin and Cure??

Besides that yeah, the depth of the tournament (aka number of matches one has to play to get the title) is an important factor.


Maru had 7 matches in S1 because he lost 0-2 to herO not the tournament is good or hard, you know that factordon’t you?
Classic lost to Oliveira in Dalllas and current soO is just a tier 2 Zerg not even close to Oliveira. It’s no doubt Serral’s run in Dallas is much much more impressive than Maru GSL S1.


That is a weird twisted logic you employ. By your logic Oliveria is the 2nd best non-korean and Stats is better than Clem.

Your logic is twisted, I don’t know if Oliveira was the second best non Korean but I know he did performed much better in facing Serral than any other Terran players since IEM Katowice, he beaten Reynor 3-1 and he just beat Dark 2-1showing he is very strong in TvZ at that time. No players besides hero in GSL has given Maru so much great pressure as Oliveira given to Serral. But hero was also beaten by Serral in Dallas and Serral has beaten Maru, who is completely in a different level of other Koreans.
If you think Maru is nothing but on the same level of Shin Cure ByuN Solar , and beating Maru is not a greater task than beating these players, feel free to do so I don’t care.


The game has more dimensions other than measuring how much "presure" a player gives to Serral to judge their overall skill in the game. Besides, Olivera said himself that most of it its due to the familiarity he has practicing vs Serral.

What I think is not that Maru is at the same level than Shin/Cure/Buyun/Solar. What I said is this:

1) The player field level experienced at Dallas by the winner is similar to the playerfield level experienced by the GSL winner.

2) Both of the winners of GSL and Dallas had a similar amount of games they had to win to achieve the title.

3) When one looks at the players that have reached the playoffs of Dallas, 6 out of 8 are players which participated in the current edition of GSL.

Do you agree then that winning Dallas is more or less the same as winning this year's edition of GSL?


1. What on Earth tells you current GSL is comparable to ESL Dallas?
Serral has beaten Maru, who is completely on a different level than other Koreans. Maru can’t beat himself, the strongest opponent is hero, who also lost to Serral so Maru’s GSL already lost.
2. Oliveira’s TvZ is the best or at least one of the best in the world at this second. I said he not only gave Serral much more pressure than Maru, but also beat Reynor and Dark recently. So beating Oliveira is also a great achievement than beating Cure ByuN soO etc, who had never won a single series against Serral and Dark in a really long time.



1. I see, so you treat SC2 are a rock paper scissor game between players to rank them. Ok, very reasonable.
2. You speak as if Oliveria won vs Serral, he didnt, he lost. And Oliveira regularly trades series between the players you mention.

Bro It's you want to compare GSL with ESL spring, not me. I just told you Maru's GSL run is less difficult than Serral's ESL run.


Well if you don't want to engage to the debate, then don't. But if you do and you tell me that Maru's GSL run was easier than Serral Dallas run, I just hard disagree. They are comparable.

Cope harder.
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