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crydee
Profile Joined October 2011
92 Posts
March 27 2012 15:27 GMT
#61
You can easily edit texts in replays. This proves nothing.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-27 15:29:16
March 27 2012 15:28 GMT
#62
On March 28 2012 00:14 lukasdesign wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2012 00:08 karpo wrote:
So they made a mistake, shit happens. I've had my work email blacklisted by mistake and i didn't bitch and moan online about it. Just contact them again if you feel like it's worth pointing out their error.

Bnet is a online service just like steam or facebook. If you bresk the rules they have the right to ban you. It's nothing like owning a car.


This is waht I am not agreeing on. I paid a product. I got to a shop and pay. It's mine. Once at home i discover (when the box is open btw and not refundable) that they force me to accept any kind of rules. A service (i.e maybe WOW) i pay on a regular basis as long as I am happy with it. SC2 I pay beforehand. So in fact for me its more like owining a car than a service.

No if you want a nice car comparison its more like buying a car and then complaining you need to buy gas.
"I already payed for my car, why doesn't it drive without gas?"
Battenet was announced ages before release so you have zero excuse you didn't knew beforehand you had to use it and therefore accept the terms of agreement.
TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
March 27 2012 15:28 GMT
#63
On March 28 2012 00:25 mememolly wrote:
blizz gonna blizz



LOL

Yo Dawg, we heard you like BM so we BM'ed your BM game so you can BM on TL while you BM
~ ~ <°)))><~ ~ ~
lukasdesign
Profile Joined April 2011
Switzerland93 Posts
March 27 2012 15:34 GMT
#64
On March 28 2012 00:28 Assirra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2012 00:14 lukasdesign wrote:
On March 28 2012 00:08 karpo wrote:
So they made a mistake, shit happens. I've had my work email blacklisted by mistake and i didn't bitch and moan online about it. Just contact them again if you feel like it's worth pointing out their error.

Bnet is a online service just like steam or facebook. If you bresk the rules they have the right to ban you. It's nothing like owning a car.


This is waht I am not agreeing on. I paid a product. I got to a shop and pay. It's mine. Once at home i discover (when the box is open btw and not refundable) that they force me to accept any kind of rules. A service (i.e maybe WOW) i pay on a regular basis as long as I am happy with it. SC2 I pay beforehand. So in fact for me its more like owining a car than a service.

No if you want a nice car comparison its more like buying a car and then complaining you need to buy gas.
"I already payed for my car, why doesn't it drive without gas?"
Battenet was announced ages before release so you have zero excuse you didn't knew beforehand you had to use it and therefore accept the terms of agreement.



No, your example would be right if I am complaining about paying an internet connection needed to play. That's why also ON each software package tehy state that further costs may occur. As there are stated further costs for monthly memberships on WOW packages.

However I am not complaining about costs, I am complaining about the right to USE a paid product.
Angel_
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1617 Posts
March 27 2012 15:34 GMT
#65
you state that you understand companies make their own rules and you agree to follow them by playing and purchasing it.
and then immediately say you hate that companies "try to censor things they don't like" which is...the exact same you just agreed to.

even if the thing was someone else's quote and not yours. you aren't complaining about them fucking up. you're complaining about their policy as a private company that you also say you understand and agree to follow.

i dont understand the purpose of this.
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-27 15:34:59
March 27 2012 15:34 GMT
#66
The times I have had contact with blizzard customer support (both by mail and phone) it has always been excellent and far above the standard set by other game developers/publishers. You'll very likely be able to get the warning on your account lifted by contacting them, and other then that its simply a mistake I'd say.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
March 27 2012 15:35 GMT
#67
On March 28 2012 00:34 lukasdesign wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2012 00:28 Assirra wrote:
On March 28 2012 00:14 lukasdesign wrote:
On March 28 2012 00:08 karpo wrote:
So they made a mistake, shit happens. I've had my work email blacklisted by mistake and i didn't bitch and moan online about it. Just contact them again if you feel like it's worth pointing out their error.

Bnet is a online service just like steam or facebook. If you bresk the rules they have the right to ban you. It's nothing like owning a car.


This is waht I am not agreeing on. I paid a product. I got to a shop and pay. It's mine. Once at home i discover (when the box is open btw and not refundable) that they force me to accept any kind of rules. A service (i.e maybe WOW) i pay on a regular basis as long as I am happy with it. SC2 I pay beforehand. So in fact for me its more like owining a car than a service.

No if you want a nice car comparison its more like buying a car and then complaining you need to buy gas.
"I already payed for my car, why doesn't it drive without gas?"
Battenet was announced ages before release so you have zero excuse you didn't knew beforehand you had to use it and therefore accept the terms of agreement.



No, your example would be right if I am complaining about paying an internet connection needed to play. That's why also ON each software package tehy state that further costs may occur. As there are stated further costs for monthly memberships on WOW packages.

However I am not complaining about costs, I am complaining about the right to USE a paid product.

You bought sc2, not battlenet i am afraid.
if 1 can't work without the other, well that is how it was designed.
plogamer
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada3132 Posts
March 27 2012 15:35 GMT
#68
I'm glad Blizzard is taking action against toxic gameplay environment. But this has to be accidental. It's not like Blizz has got beef with you.

If I may suggest that you bold out the part about how it wasn't you, or reformat it to place it near the top. Your post is a little longwinded and it's easy to miss the part about how it wasn't you who typed those idiotic words.
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-27 15:37:23
March 27 2012 15:35 GMT
#69
just for information, this is the full chat log (from sc2gears) of the replay in the OP:
+ Show Spoiler +
00:00:12 - Terrableurg to ALL: glhf
00:00:14 - MightyJoe to ALL: u2
00:00:16 - LukeVanGore to ALLIES: hi

00:00:21 - Terrableurg to ALLIES: hi

00:05:44 - Terrableurg to ALLIES: NICE SEFISHNESS WITH THE EXPO

00:11:54 - Terrableurg to ALLIES: FAGAS LOVE SENDING THEIRE WHOLE ARMY ROUND THE BACK APPARENTLY

00:12:06 - Terrableurg to ALL: FAGS LOVE COMING ROUND THE BACK

00:12:23 - LukeVanGore to ALLIES: me too

00:13:00 - Terrableurg to ALL: HOPE YOU 2 COCKSUCKERS ARE ENJOYING, OPMNE TURTLE PUSSY AND A REACHAROUNDER

00:14:03 - LukeVanGore to ALL: fukk u nopob

00:16:29 - LukeVanGore to ALL: hhhashahsah

(edit: removed pings)
I dont feel very sad in this case the wrong BMer got temp banned, but it's a bit worrying if blizzard can't keep track of who sent the messages in team games... Assuming the information in OP is correct ofc.

Also, what is a nopob? Something you eat?
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
March 27 2012 15:36 GMT
#70
On March 27 2012 23:43 lukasdesign wrote:

Just let me tell you that above quotes weren’t mine. They were stated by my RANDOM teammate.


You should put that as a title, and then again in the middle of the screen with bold and underline, so people don't get confused.

Don't be too harsh on Blizzard though - yeah, they screwed up, they probably handle thousands such tickets daily and something went wrong with that replay so their parser got your teammate's lines as if they were said by you. At least the ban was only 48 hours, so your account is currently playable. I guess you could ask Blizzard for some kind of redemption though, like a free special decal or the custom thor etc.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
March 27 2012 15:38 GMT
#71
big deal
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-27 15:41:46
March 27 2012 15:41 GMT
#72
On March 28 2012 00:14 lukasdesign wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2012 00:08 karpo wrote:
So they made a mistake, shit happens. I've had my work email blacklisted by mistake and i didn't bitch and moan online about it. Just contact them again if you feel like it's worth pointing out their error.

Bnet is a online service just like steam or facebook. If you bresk the rules they have the right to ban you. It's nothing like owning a car.


This is waht I am not agreeing on. I paid a product. I got to a shop and pay. It's mine. Once at home i discover (when the box is open btw and not refundable) that they force me to accept any kind of rules. A service (i.e maybe WOW) i pay on a regular basis as long as I am happy with it. SC2 I pay beforehand. So in fact for me its more like owining a car than a service.

And because of this the EULA cannot be legally binding unless you can get your money back guaranteed after declining it without any extra costs.


By the way I'd just contact support with the replay
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
karpo
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1998 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-27 15:43:11
March 27 2012 15:42 GMT
#73
I just checked the box and it says you need a internet connection and also a bnet account. So it is stated that you're required to subscribe to blizzards bnet service, including the ToS. All this can be read on the box before purchase.
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8096 Posts
March 27 2012 15:43 GMT
#74
Yeah, I finished the replay, even if the linked lines weren't your BM you BM'd as well "fukk u nopob" is what you said, so you deserved to be banned anyway.
Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2959 Posts
March 27 2012 15:47 GMT
#75
On March 28 2012 00:27 crydee wrote:
You can easily edit texts in replays. This proves nothing.


Yep, there really isn't any proof for us to judge if this is valid.

But that doesn't even matter really when even if it's true it's just a fricking mistake that can happen and at least the warning or whatever the guy got on his account can easily be revoked by another mail to the customer service.

Instead of doing that and waiting a couple days however the OP decides to create another drama thread on TL because why not. "You got banned….or why a company should not play p"
Whatever the complete title was supposed to be this seems like a cheap attempt to discuss something that really doesn't seem to be problematic. If Blizzard was well known for constantly banning the wrong people, sure, but that's not the case as far as I'm aware.
WrathBringerReturns said: No no no. Sarcasm is detected in the voice. When this forum is riddled with stupidity, you think I can tell every post apart? Fair enough it was intended sarcastically, was it obvious? Of course not.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 27 2012 15:47 GMT
#76
This is kinda sad, how could they ban the wrong person...
I had a good night of sleep.
Wroshe
Profile Joined June 2011
Netherlands1051 Posts
March 27 2012 15:47 GMT
#77
First of all it sucks that they banned the wrong guy and of course the ban should be removed from your account and taken off your record.

Having said that though I am pleased to see that they are actually doing something about this at all. I these days tend to avoid the NA server as that one is especially bad mannered. I don't mind the occasional trash talking but keep the racism and stuff at home.
implosion
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany10 Posts
March 27 2012 15:48 GMT
#78
On March 27 2012 23:43 lukasdesign wrote:

An e-mail with the reason was automatically sent to your email account, however I will paste the reason below.

Account: SCII-1
Date of Violation: 18/03/2012
Details of incident: Harassment / Sexual Orientation
Consequences for account: Warning placed on account and account suspended for 24 hours.

Quote:

"2012-03-18 14:50:20 - LukeVanGore#XXX FAGAS LOVE SENDING THEIRE WHOLE ARMY ROUND THE BACK APPARENTLY"
"2012-03-18 14:50:32 - LukeVanGore#XXX FA.GS LOVE COMING ROUND THE BACK"
"2012-03-18 14:51:25 - LukeVanGore#XXX HOPE YOU 2 COC.KSUC.KERS ARE ENJOYING, OPMNE TURTLE PUS.SY AND A REACHAROUNDER"

End Quote


Now, I remember this conversation during a 2v2 with a random ally! So you think I deserve my ban right?




Am I the only one noticing that while there is careful insertion of "." within the insults, to not make the mature language filter block them, but in the screenshots there isn't?
As I don't really see any reason why Blizzard employees should insert those afterwards the whole story in the OP is kinda fishy for me... Or is there anything about the mature language filter I don't know about? Seems more like, as some guys already said, that the text in the replay was altered afterwards.
Gowerly
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom916 Posts
March 27 2012 15:49 GMT
#79
It looks like you've done what you needed to do now and contacted Blizzard with your replay file so that they can review the situation.
Now all that's left is 27 more pages of reading comprehension failure and opinions on the matter.
Let us know how you get on with the appeal process, though. I don't know whether Blizzard keeps track of offences or not, so it would be good to find that out, too.
I will reduce you to a series of numbers.
JackDragon
Profile Joined February 2011
525 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-27 15:52:43
March 27 2012 15:49 GMT
#80
Question are you banned from singel player aswell? or only banned from the multiplayer part of battle.net.
Of course if you didn't say that and is actaully innocent then bilzzard is wrong and should look over their bans. That said I don't get how they would do such a mistake... How is that even possible? I mean I have heard of EAs similar bans but I don't even think they are real.
That said...

On March 27 2012 23:43 lukasdesign wrote:
Maybe you think I am overreacting, but I am seriously upset of being accused of such a behavior.

I don't get how you can be upset of being accused of such behavior if it is a fact that you actually can be rather BM... I mean you actually admit that you say "fu*k you 4 gater" from time to time...

Anyway if you didn't say it and blizzard say that that is the reason to why you are banned it is wrong. I don't however think it is wrong for them to ban people from multiplayer who are BM or cheat.

Edit: oh and implosion. Nice catch... I'm sorry lukasdesign. But you just lost all credibility in my eyes.
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