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BlazeFury01
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1460 Posts
March 18 2012 13:30 GMT
#1
Well, I wanted to write a thread about this a while ago to see if anybody else though that SC was a rip off Aliens. I provided evidence as well as sources for each.

The dropship from Aliens, The Pilot and the infamous "in the pipe, five by five" quote.



The dropship from StarCraft, It's quotes and It's unit portrait.



The dropship in StarCraft is the "almost" the same dropship from the Aliens movie.

Check out this link:



1:43 - The Ghost Concept

Blizzard also ripped that scene at 1:43 in this cinematic



Back to the link with the movie:

1:24 - The Siege Tank (If you watch the movie, the Tank has a large double barrel cannon on the back which can siege or uniege)
2:00 - Creep
2:09 - Large Eggs

2:30 - Blizzard ripped the flame throwing part and used it for the opening brood war cinematic (link below)



Remember this quote?

0:49 -

0:47 -


The Protoss are suppose to be the Predator
Simularities - Dreadlocks, Futuristic technology, Hunters of the Aliens, The Ability to cloak, Strong in few numbers and able to battle hundreds of Alien

The Zerg are suppose to be the Alien
Simularities - Both have a "Queen" which watches over the "Hive", http://avp.wikia.com/wiki/Queen
Produced from Eggs, Both Share creep (hive webbing in Aliens), Move Faster on Creep, Stealthy creatures with tails and they brutally slaughter their pray

The Terran are suppose to be the Colonial Marine
Simularities - Very Obvious

The Xel'Naga are suppose to be the Space Jockeys - http://avp.wikia.com/wiki/Space_Jockey
Simularities - Both are the "fourth race" of the series and the Space Jockeys are bio-engineering experts that created the Alien (Much Similar to the story of the Xel'Naga creating the Zerg and Protoss).

There's a lot more but I just wanted to see if anyone thinks the same thing. Feel free to add comparisions to the thread.



solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
March 18 2012 13:31 GMT
#2
The quotes are references to other films and games....... >_______________>
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TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
March 18 2012 13:32 GMT
#3
Yes, they have stated several times that they were influeneced heavily by aliens, among other things. Dont remember the exact interview or w/e happened, but they noted that aliens was one of the major inspirations for sc
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Profile Joined August 2010
Finland588 Posts
March 18 2012 13:32 GMT
#4
Ever heard of pop culture references?
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Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
March 18 2012 13:34 GMT
#5
Let's sue Blizzard.
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Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-18 13:35:06
March 18 2012 13:34 GMT
#6
Starcraft was meant to be a Warhammer RTS however your examples are stupid. Like what others have said, it's a homage
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
March 18 2012 13:35 GMT
#7
SC is Warcraft in space.
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FlamingForce
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands701 Posts
March 18 2012 13:36 GMT
#8
They're called REFERENCES

*Facepalm*
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
March 18 2012 13:36 GMT
#9
Just a few words.

Protoss= Eldar
Zerg=Tyranids
Terran=Space Marines

Warhammer 40k.
Snotling
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany885 Posts
March 18 2012 13:37 GMT
#10
afaik blizzard was supposed to make a warhammer and a warhammer 40k rts, games workshop chickend out.

so we got warcraft and starcraft
GizmoPT
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal3040 Posts
March 18 2012 13:38 GMT
#11
you only noticed that now ? i think thats a fact known from ages ago..
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Demizzle
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia397 Posts
March 18 2012 13:38 GMT
#12
teamliquid won't say shit about this because they're all blizzard loving fanboys.
Go talk to the guys that own the Alien franchise about this gross copyright infringement. I'm sure you can persuade them to split the profits after they sue the pants off of Blizzard. You're not the first person to have noticed this but maybe you'll be the one that has the guts to do something about this. Blizzard have gone on long enough ripping off of other games, series', you name it. It's time somewhat put a stop to their gross abuse.

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adwodon
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom592 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-18 13:41:12
March 18 2012 13:40 GMT
#13
Starship Troopers bascially influenced them all, from films like Aliens, to things like Warhammer and games like Crysis, Tribes & Starcraft.

Not really a secret, often celebrated by things called pop culture references...


Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
March 18 2012 13:41 GMT
#14
This has been discussed to death.

As has been said, Blizz was secretly contracted to make a WH40K game and then decided to make their own product.
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archonOOid
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1983 Posts
March 18 2012 13:42 GMT
#15
have you been in coma for the last ten years? it's a known fact and blizard have credited the aliens movies through their manuals and so forth.
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Eury
Profile Joined December 2008
Sweden1126 Posts
March 18 2012 13:44 GMT
#16
On March 18 2012 22:41 Praetorial wrote:
This has been discussed to death.

As has been said, Blizz was secretly contracted to make a WH40K game and then decided to make their own product.


Wrong. Warcraft was very early on a Warhammer game however.
schimmetje
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands1104 Posts
March 18 2012 13:46 GMT
#17
"I didn't steal Alien from anybody. I stole it from everybody." - Dan O'Bannon
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Noorgrin
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany116 Posts
March 18 2012 13:46 GMT
#18
somehow i suspect they ripped of some of the Thor quotes in SC2 from Terminator/Arnold Schwarzenegger... but could just be me, not sure :D
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Medrea
Profile Joined May 2011
10003 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-18 13:46:29
March 18 2012 13:46 GMT
#19
No but the most recent plot is a spin off of Mass effect.

+ Show Spoiler +
Aliens come from dark space and obliterate everything.
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Silidons
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2813 Posts
March 18 2012 13:46 GMT
#20
blizzard puts references in every game they make these days. i dont think there are any in d2 though since its more of a serious type of game.
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bubblegumbo
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Taiwan1296 Posts
March 18 2012 13:48 GMT
#21
This is a fantastic revelation.....12 years ago.
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Funguuuuu
Profile Joined July 2011
United States198 Posts
March 18 2012 13:48 GMT
#22
Starcraft is a rip off of Warhammer 40K, which in turn is a rip off of Starship Troopers.
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BlazeFury01
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1460 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-18 13:49:24
March 18 2012 13:48 GMT
#23
Not only the references, they stole scenes, images and the storyline.

And of course I was aware 12 years ago that they ripped it but never discussed it. It's good to see somec comments though.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44043 Posts
March 18 2012 13:49 GMT
#24
This cracks me up lol. Talk about being late to the party.

I can't wait for the OP to make a new thread...

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Ph4ZeD
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom753 Posts
March 18 2012 13:50 GMT
#25
Art naturally takes influences from the previous work, and especially when Blizzard are actively trying to use Sci-Fi cliches.
Nick!
Profile Joined March 2011
Scotland701 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-18 13:50:52
March 18 2012 13:50 GMT
#26
On March 18 2012 22:36 Disengaged wrote:
Just a few words.

Protoss= Eldar
Zerg=Tyranids
Terran=Space Marines

Warhammer 40k.


This. I've heard that Games workshop took warhammer 40k to blizzard in like the 80's or something to pitch the idea, they said they didnt like it...then they made starcraft lol. Complete rip off (i love both btw)
BlazeFury01
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1460 Posts
March 18 2012 13:52 GMT
#27
On March 18 2012 22:50 Nick! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2012 22:36 Disengaged wrote:
Just a few words.

Protoss= Eldar
Zerg=Tyranids
Terran=Space Marines

Warhammer 40k.


This. I've heard that Games workshop took warhammer 40k to blizzard in like the 80's or something to pitch the idea, they said they didnt like it...then they made starcraft lol. Complete rip off (i love both btw)


Aliens came before WarHammer which is why I didn't even mention warhammer. I went to the "original" source.
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
March 18 2012 13:52 GMT
#28
On March 18 2012 22:30 BlazeFury01 wrote:
There's a lot more but I just wanted to see if anyone thinks the same thing. Feel free to add comparisions to the thread.

SC got inspirations from Alien, Starship Troopers, Warhammer 40.000 and probably some other franchises.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
March 18 2012 13:53 GMT
#29
On March 18 2012 22:50 Ph4ZeD wrote:
Art naturally takes influences from the previous work, and especially when Blizzard are actively trying to use Sci-Fi cliches.

And the entire genre is a cliche to begin with ;p.
Xcobidoo
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1871 Posts
March 18 2012 13:53 GMT
#30
Uh, yes they have taken stuff from pop culture, and they are very open about it too I think. Sorry you went through so much trouble to prove something that is a non-issue
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phanto
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden708 Posts
March 18 2012 13:53 GMT
#31
these are called "homages", look it up.
sotaporo
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland195 Posts
March 18 2012 13:53 GMT
#32
i think we should try to get somebody fired over this. suggestions?
DanceSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States751 Posts
March 18 2012 13:53 GMT
#33
lol, never made the wh40k connection, but wondered why i was attracted to the eldar race >.>
But tottallly think that predator would have been much better if the dark templar had blades and not guns.
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Arkless
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1547 Posts
March 18 2012 13:53 GMT
#34
Rip off? Naw, inspired by... most definitely. But i thought this was common knowledge, they have a lot of outside influences in the game. Zerglings remind me of the bugs from starship troopers as well.
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Nick!
Profile Joined March 2011
Scotland701 Posts
March 18 2012 13:56 GMT
#35
On March 18 2012 22:52 BlazeFury01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2012 22:50 Nick! wrote:
On March 18 2012 22:36 Disengaged wrote:
Just a few words.

Protoss= Eldar
Zerg=Tyranids
Terran=Space Marines

Warhammer 40k.


This. I've heard that Games workshop took warhammer 40k to blizzard in like the 80's or something to pitch the idea, they said they didnt like it...then they made starcraft lol. Complete rip off (i love both btw)


Aliens came before WarHammer which is why I didn't even mention warhammer. I went to the "original" source.


Yeah but...the similarities between marines is hardly some massive comparision, id say the differences between SC and 40k universe is far more noticeable, being the entire races...their units etc
BlazeFury01
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1460 Posts
March 18 2012 13:56 GMT
#36
On March 18 2012 22:53 Arkless wrote:
Rip off? Naw, inspired by... most definitely. But i thought this was common knowledge, they have a lot of outside influences in the game. Zerglings remind me of the bugs from starship troopers as well.


Look at the Alien video link in 1:43 and then the StarCraft cinematic scene link. That first half is exactly the same.
Kevan
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden2303 Posts
March 18 2012 13:56 GMT
#37
Starcraft also has a lot of similarities to Halo but none of them "ripped off" anything, they just got inspiration.
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Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
March 18 2012 13:56 GMT
#38
yeah its all a ripoff...

lol..
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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway7998 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-18 13:59:02
March 18 2012 13:56 GMT
#39
On March 18 2012 22:38 Demizzle wrote:
teamliquid won't say shit about this because they're all blizzard loving fanboys.
Go talk to the guys that own the Alien franchise about this gross copyright infringement. I'm sure you can persuade them to split the profits after they sue the pants off of Blizzard. You're not the first person to have noticed this but maybe you'll be the one that has the guts to do something about this. Blizzard have gone on long enough ripping off of other games, series', you name it. It's time somewhat put a stop to their gross abuse.

Be the 1%, Blazefury01. It's even in your name. You can do it.


What exactly are you doing on this site? This -is- a starcraft community you know.

Also. I'd lvoe to see the person who sues someone for referencing their movie/game. Maybe Schwarzenegger should sue everyone who uses the phrase "I'll be back".

I'm not hating on americans..but this needs to stop. You don't go around looking for people to sue. Thats not how a system should work.
ChinaRestaurant
Profile Joined May 2008
Austria324 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-18 13:58:32
March 18 2012 13:56 GMT
#40
On March 18 2012 22:52 [F_]aths wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2012 22:30 BlazeFury01 wrote:
There's a lot more but I just wanted to see if anyone thinks the same thing. Feel free to add comparisions to the thread.

SC got inspirations from Alien, Starship Troopers, Warhammer 40.000 and probably some other franchises.


StarCraft and WarCraft were still originally meant to be games for Games Workshop until they revoked their rights. Since Blizzard didnt want to completely start from the beginning again they changed it so they could call it their own creation. Not that thats necessarily a bad thing, we all know those games are still great in their own right :>.

Edit: in retrospect I'm not even sure about StarCraft being a WH40k project originally, but I'm pretty sure about WarCraft.
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Firesilver
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom1190 Posts
March 18 2012 13:56 GMT
#41
On March 18 2012 22:36 Disengaged wrote:
Just a few words.

Protoss= Eldar
Zerg=Tyranids
Terran=Space Marines

Warhammer 40k.


Haha, was expecting someone to say this. ^^
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Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
March 18 2012 13:56 GMT
#42
On March 18 2012 22:38 Demizzle wrote:
teamliquid won't say shit about this because they're all blizzard loving fanboys.
Go talk to the guys that own the Alien franchise about this gross copyright infringement. I'm sure you can persuade them to split the profits after they sue the pants off of Blizzard. You're not the first person to have noticed this but maybe you'll be the one that has the guts to do something about this. Blizzard have gone on long enough ripping off of other games, series', you name it. It's time somewhat put a stop to their gross abuse.

Be the 1%, Blazefury01. It's even in your name. You can do it.


What are you 12? Do you live in a bubble or something? I can't imagine anything else that would make that line of thought
DaCruise
Profile Joined July 2010
Denmark2457 Posts
March 18 2012 13:56 GMT
#43
Since Aliens is the best movie ever made I dont really mind so much
Usul
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany150 Posts
March 18 2012 13:57 GMT
#44
And did you notice that the Thor sounds like Arnold? RIP OFF! (is this thread for real?)
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-18 13:59:07
March 18 2012 13:57 GMT
#45
On March 18 2012 22:48 BlazeFury01 wrote:
Not only the references, they stole scenes, images and the storyline.


You need to send emails! Everywhere!
Obviously everyone they ripped off somehow failed to notice it, even though starcraft was an incredibly popular game for years after its release. It is you, blaze, only you that can right this wrong, this grievous injustice.
God... to think the game I loved... was the product of THEFT AND VILLAINY!
I'll go cry in a corner now

edit: Also I just noticed that avatar is a complete rip-off of pocahontas! Its EVERYWHERE!
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Profile Joined April 2011
Vatican City State733 Posts
March 18 2012 13:58 GMT
#46
On March 18 2012 22:31 solidbebe wrote:
The quotes are references to other films and games....... >_______________>

Yeah, just b/c it references Aliens a lot doesn't make it a total rip off. Whenever I play Terran I repeatedly click on my ravens just to hear "This vessel has assumed control...." . Doesn't mean Blizzard ripped off 2112, it just means that they have fans of the Rock Deities themselves on staff
Demizzle
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia397 Posts
March 18 2012 13:58 GMT
#47
On March 18 2012 22:53 DanceSC wrote:
lol, never made the wh40k connection, but wondered why i was attracted to the eldar race >.>


pfft Protoss > Eldar.
Protoss majestic and honourable race of zealous psychic soldiers.
Eldar are... so very pretty. Pretty pompous arses :D

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DorF
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden961 Posts
March 18 2012 13:58 GMT
#48
Actually Blizzard stole most of the lore and inspiration for the races from warhammer 40k. If you don't belive me read some lore about the warhammer races and compare to that of the Protoss/Terran/Zerg
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Nick!
Profile Joined March 2011
Scotland701 Posts
March 18 2012 13:59 GMT
#49
I think you guys must not know a whole lot about 40K to think that they ripped of more from Aliens tbh :/
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Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Belgium8305 Posts
March 18 2012 13:59 GMT
#50
moving this to the closed forum to hide the terrible truth
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