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Cabinet Sanchez
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia1097 Posts
February 11 2012 00:10 GMT
#21
On February 11 2012 09:07 Witten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 08:58 motbob wrote:
Are we watching the same VODs?


I agree, I don't know what anyone in this thread is talking about. The HQ VODS look great on my end, not sure what the meaning behind others issues is.



You can't be serious.


There, Husky on a single computer is capturing 720p and look at the quality?
Switch to 720p mode - look at the text, look at the units, same ultimate codec (Flash Video) in the long run, vastly vastly better quality.

Enhancer_
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada320 Posts
February 11 2012 00:10 GMT
#22
NASL's free 480p has and does look better than HQ GSL VODs. It's awesome and sad.
BlackGosu
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1046 Posts
February 11 2012 00:15 GMT
#23
HQ is fine to me...
in fact I even watch SQ to save bandwidth at home. if Im at the library, I watch HQ
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iruel
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada75 Posts
February 11 2012 00:15 GMT
#24
i think they could increase the bitrate of their HQ stream and vods a bit. i'm sure it will happen sooner or later. GOM has been pretty good with making improvements to their vods/streams. the ingame footage is pretty good, but you really notice the compression artifacting in the shots of the studio with all the different lights and colours. when i had a shitty connection a while back, i could only keep up with buffering vods if there wasn't studio shots.
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kikimama
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)297 Posts
February 11 2012 00:15 GMT
#25
It is pretty bad. I have to change my video settings just to sharpen it up. I'm use to it because GSL is the only reason I watch sc2 matches so I've become accustomed to the quality. However, I have seen other streams that are much better. Considering the production Gom puts into it's stream, I don't know why it can't be higher.
zOula...
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States898 Posts
February 11 2012 00:16 GMT
#26
On February 11 2012 09:03 Cabinet Sanchez wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/A0U9Y.jpg
Look at the minerals, they are a blurry mess.
The supply / income numbers - while readable (unlike LQ) are quite blurry - the top left units counter, the probes are just a gold mass of pixels.



I'm not sure what the deal is, but HQ looks way better than that for me. Maybe it's something on your end?
Blade Fox
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States215 Posts
February 11 2012 00:17 GMT
#27
Maybe the op has a codec issue or his gom player settings are off?
Blame it on my A.D.D
Ryler
Profile Joined March 2011
Slovenia370 Posts
February 11 2012 00:21 GMT
#28
On February 11 2012 09:16 zOula... wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 09:03 Cabinet Sanchez wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/A0U9Y.jpg
Look at the minerals, they are a blurry mess.
The supply / income numbers - while readable (unlike LQ) are quite blurry - the top left units counter, the probes are just a gold mass of pixels.



I'm not sure what the deal is, but HQ looks way better than that for me. Maybe it's something on your end?


Mine always looked like that and I've pretty mutch watched every season. Fine for me since I don't watch fullscreen anyways.
"Use the force Harry." -Gandalf
Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
February 11 2012 00:22 GMT
#29
uh yeah they also look really good for me, definitely MUCH better than that pic. i don't really notice a difference between GSL vods and MLG vods tbh. except the games, production, casting and everything else is better in GSL.
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Cabinet Sanchez
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia1097 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-11 00:41:20
February 11 2012 00:23 GMT
#30
On February 11 2012 09:16 zOula... wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 09:03 Cabinet Sanchez wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/A0U9Y.jpg
Look at the minerals, they are a blurry mess.
The supply / income numbers - while readable (unlike LQ) are quite blurry - the top left units counter, the probes are just a gold mass of pixels.



I'm not sure what the deal is, but HQ looks way better than that for me. Maybe it's something on your end?



I think it's unlikely that they litterally encode a different version just for other countries. There's 2 options, high and low.
Here is what a LQ snap looks like
http://i.imgur.com/zIW0I.jpg

and here's the same video you can try it on
http://www.gomtv.net/2012gsls1/vod/66854/?set=7&lang=
11:02 (ingame about 8:55 realtime on the slider)

Elbonbunny
Profile Joined October 2010
Ireland60 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-11 00:33:30
February 11 2012 00:24 GMT
#31
Everyone Stay calm

What we see here is a videophile having a shit fit, I've seen this before all we need to do, is to show super high resolution images and it will calm it,

Calm down everything will be ok
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cskalias.pbe
Profile Joined April 2010
United States293 Posts
February 11 2012 00:24 GMT
#32
I can't really tell, but I wonder if the computers of the GSL cameraman are not as good as other tourneys such that graphical settings are turned down?
Gackt_
Profile Joined March 2010
335 Posts
February 11 2012 00:27 GMT
#33
Compared GSL vs MLG stream

http://i.imgur.com/Tv1nG.jpg
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10340 Posts
February 11 2012 00:28 GMT
#34
Keep in mind GOM likely has a number of analogue conversions or other sources of degradation in their pipeline since they are a broadcast studio and have to capture live camera footage and do a lot of video mixing etc. You can't really compare that to someone screen capturing at full color space RGB24 and directly encoding to x264. The analogue path likely has low color space, possible interlacing issues, limited HD/SD resolution, etc.
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Cabinet Sanchez
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia1097 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-11 00:41:36
February 11 2012 00:28 GMT
#35
On February 11 2012 09:17 Blade Fox wrote:
Maybe the op has a codec issue or his gom player settings are off?



Multiple computers, I've been watching since GSL#1 - I've re-installed Windows since then. This is on my laptop and desktop. Considering this is what husky 720p looks like on the same computer? Same flash player?

Husky 720p flash youtube
http://i.imgur.com/fSL1S.jpg
Look how crisp the text is? Note the defined lines on the protoss buildings.


Gom "HQ"
http://i.imgur.com/A0U9Y.jpg

GOM "SQ"
http://i.imgur.com/zIW0I.jpg

Seriously here...


EDIT: Watching the GOM stream compared to the Husky stream, they are definitely using vastly different codecs, GOM has very very smooth unit movement, whereas huskys stream blurs significantly more when units move but you only notice at very fast moment and personally I find it less likely to notice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=5-YcDzmE4-c#t=681s
DKR
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom622 Posts
February 11 2012 00:34 GMT
#36
GSL Vods are not of the MLG/ESL/Twitchtv Quality
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Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
February 11 2012 00:36 GMT
#37
Only thing that annoys me is the fact that on LQ stream/vods you can't even see supply counts ._.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
February 11 2012 00:37 GMT
#38
On February 11 2012 09:23 Cabinet Sanchez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 09:16 zOula... wrote:
On February 11 2012 09:03 Cabinet Sanchez wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/A0U9Y.jpg
Look at the minerals, they are a blurry mess.
The supply / income numbers - while readable (unlike LQ) are quite blurry - the top left units counter, the probes are just a gold mass of pixels.



I'm not sure what the deal is, but HQ looks way better than that for me. Maybe it's something on your end?



I think it's unlikely that they litterally encode a different version just for other countries. There's 2 options, high and low.
Here is what a LQ snap looks like
http://i.imgur.com/zIW0I.jpg

and here's the same video you can try it on
http://www.gomtv.net/2012gsls1/vod/66854/?set=7&lang=
11:02 (ingame about 8:55 realtime on the slider)



I opened up the VOD and went to the specific time and my quality is much higher than the first screenshot posted.
Empirimancer
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada1024 Posts
February 11 2012 00:37 GMT
#39
Yup. GOM HD is more like medium definition. It's pretty shameful. I don't mind when the camera shows the casters or the players, but for the games at least it should be as clear as other tournaments.


Cabinet Sanchez
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia1097 Posts
February 11 2012 00:39 GMT
#40
On February 11 2012 09:37 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2012 09:23 Cabinet Sanchez wrote:
On February 11 2012 09:16 zOula... wrote:
On February 11 2012 09:03 Cabinet Sanchez wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/A0U9Y.jpg
Look at the minerals, they are a blurry mess.
The supply / income numbers - while readable (unlike LQ) are quite blurry - the top left units counter, the probes are just a gold mass of pixels.



I'm not sure what the deal is, but HQ looks way better than that for me. Maybe it's something on your end?



I think it's unlikely that they litterally encode a different version just for other countries. There's 2 options, high and low.
Here is what a LQ snap looks like
http://i.imgur.com/zIW0I.jpg

and here's the same video you can try it on
http://www.gomtv.net/2012gsls1/vod/66854/?set=7&lang=
11:02 (ingame about 8:55 realtime on the slider)



I opened up the VOD and went to the specific time and my quality is much higher than the first screenshot posted.



Screenshot please, paused at the same location blown up on the highest res monitor you have.
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