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hmunkey
United Kingdom1973 Posts
On January 30 2012 09:28 MSMatrix wrote: IdrA is the ONLY one whining about protoss always beating zerg. THE GAME IS BALANCED. wtf Nah, Nestea/DRG/Dimaga all say the same thing in pretty much every interview where they're asked. It's not really an uncommon sentiment among pro zergs. Idra's just the most vocal/whiny/bm of them, so he gets shit for it. | ||
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ShatterZer0
United States1843 Posts
All his wins come from PvP sniper Inori (2-1), random encounter with Tails (where he went 2-2) and a tilted HerO that just blanked out. Also, he's lost 0-2 to MC, 0-2 to Naniwa, and beaten HuK 2-0. So, vs "Koreans" I'd say Stephano is 6-7. Against Code S class Koreans (now excluding Inori because he's achieved basically nothing in GSL, and Tails because his list of Korea achievements are that he's beaten Nestea (GSTL) once and BoongBoong (Zotac cup) once... a long time ago in games that were terrible) his record would be 2-4. Of course a 33% win rate would be an unfair measurement of his skill... but the fact that people consider him a Korean Slayer and some of the "Best ZvP" in the world is also quite unfair to other Zergs who've less than a tenth the fame but proven skill in the match up against the best of the best. | ||
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Luppy1
Singapore177 Posts
On January 30 2012 09:28 MichaelJLowell wrote: Okay guys, it's was kind of cute when you complained about imbalance for the first twenty-three months of StarCraft II that followed the launch of the Wings of Liberty beta, but now it's getting pretty damn sad. Either pick a different race, quit playing the game, or stop bitching. That also goes to all the professional foreign players who think their opinion on the topic hasn't worn out its welcome, because we get it, you play the game for a living and that's the only reason you give a crap about the game. You just can't phrase it that way because Blizzard Entertainment has no interest in you guys beyond using your matches as an advertisement to sell more copies of StarCraft II. They don't want you saying "StarCraft II sucks, I play it because it's my job." Well, it's your job. Shut up and do your job. Why can't he do whatever he wants? He's definitely putting in an effort to do well. He moved all the way to korea! Why can't a player voice his frustrations? Whether it's right or not, he can say whatever he wants in his interview. | ||
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m4inbrain
1505 Posts
On January 30 2012 09:26 Incognoto wrote: That's ladder play, not tournament play. It's not the same thing, think about it. Oh, youre right. Then you could watch the video of him smashing his keyboard to pieces with his headset after losing (well a bit exagerated, but he did lose his F4 key  ). I think you know what i mean, you just dont want to admit it. Just remember all the ragequits, or premature ragequits - im pretty sure that he didnt lean back and thought "well, i played stupid, didnt i". You know it, we all know it. Off topic, but meh. For me at least, thats the major reason why i dont give a shit about his opinion. Of course, he could play circles around me - but this one opinion of him, that will NEVER change. Ever. So who cares when he whines anyway, its A not new and B will never stop. Even if they nerf Protoss to the ground and buff zergs to heavens, the day he loses a game vs a protoss hes on it again. | ||
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Luppy1
Singapore177 Posts
On January 30 2012 09:24 m4inbrain wrote: Try to watch "Idra highlights" on youtube. He constantly says something, but its not "i didnt play very well" etc, for sure. He almost never sees a fault of his own. Its almost always either balance, or "he did something that just a really bad player would do, and i didnt thought that he was that bad". Except, those players are all really bad, comparatively to him. Most of the snippets showed some random nobody trying to do some early game shenanigans. Why is this new to you that he is better than all of the non pros on the ladder? | ||
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markrevival
United States222 Posts
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phiinix
United States1169 Posts
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MichaelJLowell
United States610 Posts
On January 30 2012 09:32 Luppy1 wrote: Why can't he do whatever he wants? He's definitely putting in an effort to do well. He moved all the way to korea! Why can't a player voice his frustrations? Whether it's right or not, he can say whatever he wants in his interview. He can, but we're also entitled to call him out for that opinion, his skill as a top-level Western player be damned. He's not entitled to continuously complain about insurmountable odds so long as his penchant for quitting on winning and even positions continues to be his own worst enemy. I know it's a pain in the ass to play forty-plus hours a week, then hear Silver and Gold League players talk about how you're the worst StarCraft player on the face of the planet. But I can assure that IdrA isn't mired in the ranks of professional StarCraft mediocrity because of a perceived imbalance against a particular matchup. He was a mediocre professional StarCraft player back in Brood War, too. | ||
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BlueBoxSC
United States582 Posts
My girlfriend is a huge HuK fan, and I support the Gracken. Watching this will be tense, if they do play in the Ro24... | ||
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RezChi
Canada2368 Posts
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Luppy1
Singapore177 Posts
On January 30 2012 09:32 m4inbrain wrote: Oh, youre right. Then you could watch the video of him smashing his keyboard to pieces with his headset after losing (well a bit exagerated, but he did lose his F4 key ). Completely exaggerated dude. He didnt smash his keyboard to pieces. He flicked his headset on his keyboard while packing up after the game and that was it. + Show Spoiler + | ||
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SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
On January 30 2012 09:39 RezChi wrote: Has idrA ever thought about that he just probably sucks at that match-up not that "zergs doesn't really beat protoss right now"? Yes. Very often he has said "I am not very good against protoss." | ||
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Luppy1
Singapore177 Posts
On January 30 2012 09:39 RezChi wrote: Has idrA ever thought about that he just probably sucks at that match-up not that "zergs doesn't really beat protoss right now"? Have you thought about maybe he's right? In a recent interview, DRG complained about playing zerg (balance wise and map wise) as well? | ||
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RezChi
Canada2368 Posts
On January 30 2012 09:40 Luppy1 wrote: Completely exaggerated dude. He didnt smash his keyboard to pieces. He flicked his headset on his keyboard while packing up after the game and that was it. + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhrFFa0bpIg O_o you provide the the video, but you can clearly see he smashed his headphone onto his keyboard. Not to mention he sits there for a good 10 secs after it. o_O | ||
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RezChi
Canada2368 Posts
On January 30 2012 09:42 SafeAsCheese wrote: Yes. Very often he has said "I am not very good against protoss." But most of the time he usually ends up saying that protoss is not balanced O-o | ||
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m4inbrain
1505 Posts
On January 30 2012 09:35 Luppy1 wrote: Except, those players are all really bad, comparatively to him. Most of the snippets showed some random nobody trying to do some early game shenanigans. Why is this new to you that he is better than all of the non pros on the ladder? So its pro now to lose against early game shenanigans? I watched TLOs stream now for the last week at least 3 hours a day, he actually asked on stream why everyone is trying to all-in him - and he was thankful, because you learn to cope with earlygame crap by dealing with it. If you cant deal with shenanigans (is that btw a real word or did Day9 invent that? Honestly curious), hm.. Dunno. Other than that, he rages in tournaments as well. May it be ragequits, premature quits or open rage after a game. edit Completely exaggerated dude. He didnt smash his keyboard to pieces. He flicked his headset on his keyboard while packing up after the game and that was it. I already said that i stated it a bit exaggerated. But do you really want to tell me that he actually thought "well, i think i made a mistake somewhere", while slamming his headset into the keyboard (hard enough to pop a key)? Come on. Btw i didnt post that video for a reason, i didnt really meant to discuss it here. | ||
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MichaelDonovan
United States1453 Posts
On January 30 2012 09:16 willoc wrote: Idra is not playing the best Protoss in the world for your info! Please tell us more about what you "mean"! He is training on the Korean ladder. Stephano is training on the European ladder. This is what I "mean"! EDIT: He is also training in the SlayerS team house with Puzzle. | ||
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cozzE
Australia357 Posts
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StyLeD
United States2965 Posts
On January 30 2012 09:44 RezChi wrote: But most of the time he usually ends up saying that protoss is not balanced O-o It's more like "I am not very good against protoss because protoss is imbalanced" | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
On January 30 2012 09:32 m4inbrain wrote: Oh, youre right. Then you could watch the video of him smashing his keyboard to pieces with his headset after losing (well a bit exagerated, but he did lose his F4 key ). I think you know what i mean, you just dont want to admit it. Just remember all the ragequits, or premature ragequits - im pretty sure that he didnt lean back and thought "well, i played stupid, didnt i". You know it, we all know it. Off topic, but meh. For me at least, thats the major reason why i dont give a shit about his opinion. Of course, he could play circles around me - but this one opinion of him, that will NEVER change. Ever. So who cares when he whines anyway, its A not new and B will never stop. Even if they nerf Protoss to the ground and buff zergs to heavens, the day he loses a game vs a protoss hes on it again. Well to be fair, that was a while ago and Trimaster* isn't quite Idra's calibre (not saying Trimaster* didn't outplay Idra in that series). Besides that video is entertainment value and not even half the picture. You're forgetting interviews, in fact in a recent one Idra blatantly admitted he sucked in his Code S games. | ||
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