EPTHuk and IdrA in Code A; "Zerg doesn't beat Toss" - Page 23
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MountainDewJunkie
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Idra's take is to blame external forces. Maps, balance, players, but seems to not have (publicly) a severe interest in self-criticism. I think when you have players like idra that are extremely hyped and equally unaccomplished, you lose credibility over time over the same song and dance. But that's the problem when you have a game that is CONSTANTLY patching, balancing, and fuck, is about to release an expansion pack that will redefine strategies and races to a large degree, you don't know the objective validity of these complaints. The issue is that SC2 eSports boomed beyond the bounds of the means to adapt. The should have let the game settle and then began their slew of ridiculously superfluous tournaments. You think players are whining now? Wait till HotS is released. It's gonna be a fucking mess. | ||
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K3Nyy
United States1961 Posts
On January 30 2012 13:06 nvs. wrote: If somebody wants to raise their concerns about the state of the game that's absolutely fine, it's just Idra has been saying the EXACT same thing for 2 years now regardless of what stats and shifts in the game suggest. A lot longer than two years. If anyone talks about balance in a constructive way, nobody's gonna hate on them. | ||
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nvs.
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On January 30 2012 13:19 K3Nyy wrote: A lot longer than two years. If anyone talks about balance in a constructive way, nobody's gonna hate on them. I was just talking about his SC2 renditions. ^___^ | ||
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soullogik
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will he ever stop crying, who knows | ||
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dRaW
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vnlegend
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-_-
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My take: He's never willing to build to spinecrawlers, mass infestors, and build up an Infested Lord army. When trying to play a long game, he always looks for openings for attack, and takes too many risks. On the other hand, when he's trying to play aggressively, he doesn't effectively utilize roach ling pushes to deny thirds. Add a fourth base, get infestors behind, but stage an attack at about 12-14 mintues with 160-180 supply with infestors and upgrades behind it. Also, he doesn't understand how control Mutalisks in PvZ, as opposed to TvZ. Now, I haven't seen him play since the holiday, so hopefully he's started to do the above better since then, but until he plays those styles and loses, I'll ignore him. It's always interesting to hear people talking about how this is "the final straw." Every veteran member on this site has said you can't listen to Idra discuss balance. Did you think they were some part of massive anti-Idra conspiracy? Smart man, talented player, prejudiced outlook. | ||
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Shebuha
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- get mad and BM idra (I saw idr-bitch on page 6 or so.. wow that's cool...) - say, "he always does this wtf so annoying getting old needs to stop whining" - analyse his mental state. ex. "his way of mentally checking out" "he just hides his insecurities or weakness as a player" honestly.. people need to just stop leaving such hateful and unsupportive shit on TL threads. Can't we just celebrate the fact that these 2 great foreign players are in Code A and wish them the best while thanking the OP for posting these interviews? | ||
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Bagration
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Is it possible that Idra is just saying these things as a calculated move to generate discussion and attention for himself and his team. If so, it has worked grandly. | ||
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xlava
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But this time I think he's right, I'm not sure how Zerg is supposed to beat deathball + mothership Protoss in the super late game. | ||
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Vei
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On January 30 2012 13:34 Bagration wrote: EG as an organization is a promoting genius. They post interviews of Huk and Idra before playing their Code A matches, and suddenly there are 23 pages of ongoing discussing. Meanwhile, the Slayers MMA interview after Slayers beats FXO in the GSTL flies largely under the radar. Is it possible that Idra is just saying these things as a calculated move to generate discussion and attention for himself and his team. If so, it has worked grandly. no, I think he is actually just very genuine and that's why people like him. | ||
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Empirimancer
Canada1024 Posts
On January 30 2012 13:37 xlava wrote: Standard Idra tbh... But this time I think he's right, I'm not sure how Zerg is supposed to beat deathball + mothership Protoss in the super late game. Split the zerg deathball so vortex is less effective. Or make a bit more corruptors and snipe the mothership even if it means that a lot of them will die, since without the MS the zerg deathball usually beats the protoss deathball. Edit: That said, the archon toilet does need to be nerfed (again). | ||
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K3Nyy
United States1961 Posts
On January 30 2012 13:39 Vei wrote: no, I think he is actually just very genuine and that's why people like him. I guess.. but when you're a professional, I'd think you should act more manner. Also, I'm not 100% convinced that this is genuine. He was BMing Huk for the longest time until he joined EG, then he starts acting nice to him. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
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