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While I understand that there's a need to discuss this matter, this thread has way too many trash posts in it. Please think carefully about what you want to say. Ad hominem attacks on Swedish people in general, calling you fellow Starcraft fans idiots etc etc will be dealt with with harsher punishment from here on out. Keep it civil people. Page 230: Here's some more stuff that'll get you banned! - Conspiracy theory mongering about MLG and GOM - Comparing people to Hitler - Posting useless one liners of arguments that have already been repeated ad nauseum. | ||
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Packawana
United States1081 Posts
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
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DrZz
Romania70 Posts
Respect to your opponent is essential. Congratulations GOM for making an unpopular decision that defends the your principles! | ||
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XRaDiiX
Canada1730 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:42 eYeball wrote: I just don't understand why Choya tweeted he shouldn't be a progamer, coming from him who got banned for going at it with rock, papper, scissor. I know what a Hypocrite eh? | ||
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Shortynut
Australia78 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:30 MooMooMugi wrote: I think you are confusing a probe rush with a 6 pool. A 6 pool is a strategy that actually has a chance of winning no matter how small it is. Not to mention 6-pool is actually a good strategy on Tal'Darim Alter lol.. a probe rush actually has a chance of winning too, it's much much smaller but it IS a strategy, the problem people are having is that he did it under the circumstances of the competition (down 0-3 playing to stay out of last place in the group), that and he decided not to give viewers what they actually wanted, which was a rematch to settle the heat. | ||
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Vari
United States532 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:42 bigjenk wrote: How about bynum getting purposefully ejected so he could leave? OOOHHHHSNAPP!!!!! he probably got fined money but finding one example doesn't prove anything. bynum acted wrongly in that example and I guarantee he got shit for it. I hope he was penalized, it's the right thing to do | ||
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ptrpb
Canada753 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:41 MooMooMugi wrote: Forced cross position doesnt matter. 7 probes cannot kill 5 drones or a hatchery fast enough before the zerg has more units and beats you. Fact is that the worker rush doesn't have a ZERO percent chance of winning. If NesTea botched his micro somehow he could lose. So that bares the question, how low or high of a win chance does a strategy have to have before it's deemed "OFFENSIVE". | ||
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ScythedBlade
308 Posts
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nimdil
Poland3751 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:42 ander wrote: I really hope you detected my sarcasm in my post. Sure did. | ||
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:42 Packawana wrote: The whole "Global" Starcraft League argument is BS. If that were the case, it'd be like forcing JongMi to wear a burqa because it's a "global" league and without it you'd be insulting whichever Middle Eastern culture there is. It's a tournament run by a Korean company that happens to share that country's ideals. If the players don't adhere to the organizer's rules and standards, then the organizer has the right to expel said players. just like how the MLB world series is really a "World" Series.... | ||
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Vari
United States532 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:43 Shortynut wrote: a probe rush actually has a chance of winning too, it's much much smaller but it IS a strategy, the problem people are having is that he did it under the circumstances of the competition (down 0-3 playing to stay out of last place in the group), that and he decided not to give viewers what they actually wanted, which was a rematch to settle the heat. it's that he said he did it to throw the game. | ||
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Vandalman
United States66 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:41 elsation wrote: This is a bad decision, Naniwa may have been a tool, but still, you shouldnt ban someone just for using that strategy, there is a time and place that a probe rush will work, and removing it from the game entirely, which is what they are doing, is just stupid. banning him just because he didnt play the game to whatever arbitrary criteria they deem is proper is just insane and a little megolomanic. you must have not watched the game....He literally took his hand off the keyboard and moved his probes to get surrounded by the drones. No strat there, he just through the game. | ||
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Vardant
Czech Republic620 Posts
He broke a rule, an actual rule, but wasn't punished and he could reverse his decision. I know it was a joke and I'm actually behind Jinro on this, it was just a joke and he didn't know, but that wouldn't normally matter. If you agree, that Naniwa should be banned, then where were you during this? Shouldn't you have asked GOM to punish him? | ||
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Pwnographics
New Zealand1097 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:42 grobo wrote: Kind of like how the Koreans got punished for throwing games at WCG, oh wait.. The koreans didn't even mention the damn thing. 100% pure bias. Because GomTV was in charge of WCG right? Different tournament holders reserve the right to punish players the way they see fit. | ||
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:39 MasterBlasterCaster wrote: Nope. Most of the time those players run plays that are designed to end the game as quickly as possible so as to avoid injury so you are dead fucking wrong and stop making shit up for like the seventh time. Dude I'm not making shit up I was always under the impression that teams have to play to win or else they get punished for it. Which in Association Football has actually resulted in the punishment of a few teams. | ||
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ander
Canada403 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:41 Vari wrote: this is pathetic you pretend naniwa didn't do something that bothered people so you can cling to some idea of racism ...when they replaced him with non korean How was he supposed to know that what he did was wrong? I'd love it if you pointed me to the rule that explicitly says "Working rushing is a suspendable offense." Because he wasn't aware of that particular cultural difference does not make this decision acceptable. | ||
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MasterBlasterCaster
United States568 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:43 razz wrote: Respect to the people who payed is essential. Respect to your opponent is essential. Congratulations GOM for making an unpopular decision that defends the your principles! No it isn't. Only little kids and soccer mommies think that. | ||
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RiT4LiN
Netherlands131 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:31 Bogeyman wrote: I'd say they're stretching it a bit when using that rule as the reason. I didn't see the actual game, so I don't know if Naniwa tried to micro his probes or not. Anyway, this won't change a lot. Naniwa and anyone else in a situation like he was will simply go for some rush that at least has some semblance of strategy. Well you never know with Naniwa I guess, but I hope he changes, even if it's only enough for stuff like this not to happen again. Casters said he took his hands of the keyboard.. | ||
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
Or maybe he learned his lesson after being punished. Hopefully Naniwa learns to stop being so unprofessional. | ||
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kleetzor
Germany360 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:43 ptrpb wrote: Fact is that the worker rush doesn't have a ZERO percent chance of winning. If NesTea botched his micro somehow he could lose. So that bares the question, how low or high of a win chance does a strategy have to have before it's deemed "OFFENSIVE". he didnt micro | ||
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