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While I understand that there's a need to discuss this matter, this thread has way too many trash posts in it. Please think carefully about what you want to say. Ad hominem attacks on Swedish people in general, calling you fellow Starcraft fans idiots etc etc will be dealt with with harsher punishment from here on out. Keep it civil people.

Page 230: Here's some more stuff that'll get you banned!
- Conspiracy theory mongering about MLG and GOM
- Comparing people to Hitler
- Posting useless one liners of arguments that have already been repeated ad nauseum.
Fade1
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Sweden143 Posts
December 14 2011 11:06 GMT
#1161
This is just so fucking dumb... I will not buy a pass because of this
quancer
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada161 Posts
December 14 2011 11:06 GMT
#1162
On December 14 2011 20:02 perestain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 20:00 johanreidel wrote:
I guess this is a cultural thing where appearance trumps honesty, to bad Naniwa comes from a culture where it's the reversed.

Remember kids, it's all about saving face and keeping up appearances! Honesty is for losers...



That sums it up pretty well actually.


No, it completely misses the point. GomTV is GomTV, not Korea. You people need to use your goddamn brains.
MVP, Polt, Supernova, Losira, Leenock, Morrow
Femari
Profile Joined June 2011
United States2900 Posts
December 14 2011 11:06 GMT
#1163
On December 14 2011 20:04 galenkan wrote:
All I see here is a clash of culture...

If GOM is trying to cater to koreans, who are demandiing more of Naniwa (and GOMTV is trying to keep the korean viewerbase) then it's the right course of action.

Clash of culture? Any league would do this. NFL would. NHL would. NBA would. Premier League has done something like this. La Liga would.

GOM acted like any professional sports organization would act, professionally.
Mvp | BoxeR | MarineKing | MC | viOlet | Scarlett | Flash | Bisu | XellOs | Sea | Fantasy | By.Sun
Derity
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany2952 Posts
December 14 2011 11:06 GMT
#1164
Waiting for a official statement from MrChae/GomTV

imo they should just fine him and keep his earnings from blizzard cup, but banning goes to far.
they have a ridiculous tournament format.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
December 14 2011 11:06 GMT
#1165
On December 14 2011 20:01 kickinhead wrote:
OMG, is GSL turning into KeSpa? If more ridiculous rulings like that happen, I'll definitely stop watching GSL. It's already boring with so few foreigners, now they ban Nani for reacting like a normal Person to their stupid Format?....

I don't think they are trying to copy KESPA. It's just that they are both in fact Korean Starcraft organizations following Korean standards. I highly doubt that a "normal" pro gamer would have done with Naniwa did to NESTEA, of all people.
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
December 14 2011 11:06 GMT
#1166
On December 14 2011 19:47 Sprouter wrote:
Did gom just make this rule up? This is a total embarrassment for esports and the GSL. Does this mean that mule bombs, manner nexus, and /dance is banned from GSL?

That rule have been since open season 1. Maybe Nazgul still have player booklet from that time. It was sth along the lines
"Gretek/GOM reserves the right to remove the player if his behaviour is deemed inappropriate"
Philipd122
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia776 Posts
December 14 2011 11:06 GMT
#1167
On December 14 2011 20:03 Zanno wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 20:00 Highways wrote:
So say in poker, someone goes all-in with a low percentage hande (eg. three high) because he is tilted, should he be banned?

this is more like playing a game of football and just standing there while the other team kicks the ball into your goal over and over


No, this is more like tennis where you let your opponent get every single point so the game ends as early as possible...
Oz | Leenock | GuMiho | Lucky | MC | PartinG | DRG | Mvp
Clefairy
Profile Joined September 2011
1570 Posts
December 14 2011 11:06 GMT
#1168
On December 14 2011 20:04 perestain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 20:01 mtvacuum wrote:
for the people that are trying to argue that a probe rush is a legitimate strat for someone trying to win, please, just stop...

A fake sloppy fourgate against nestea would not be anymore likely to win but would have been considered acceptable. Double standards right there.

Ideally he would just play a normal game like other progamers such as HerO would have. It just speaks more to Naniwa's immaturity and selfishness in my opinion...
kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
December 14 2011 11:06 GMT
#1169
On December 14 2011 20:03 StarBrift wrote:
That being said its still not an appropriate punishment. A fine is customary in most sports for behaviour that hurts the professional image of the sport/game and I dont see why that shouldn't be the case here.
Except Naniwa doesn't belong to any organisation that could fine him. Being banned from the GSL for a while is the only option GOM has available.
Fly Jaedong, fly!
baoluvboa
Profile Joined December 2010
743 Posts
December 14 2011 11:06 GMT
#1170
On December 14 2011 20:04 perestain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 20:01 mtvacuum wrote:
for the people that are trying to argue that a probe rush is a legitimate strat for someone trying to win, please, just stop...

A fake sloppy fourgate against nestea would not be anymore likely to win but would have been considered acceptable. Double standards right there.


Actually there is a possibility of winning there. Acceptable in that hes pulling a legitimate strategy that can be successful.
Vari
Profile Joined September 2010
United States532 Posts
December 14 2011 11:06 GMT
#1171
On December 14 2011 20:03 laggikoN wrote:
Well, that's me not watching GOM anymore, fucking ridiculous, "Dont dont have meaningless matches if you want players to take them seriously."

hahaha, define "meaningless"

have some self respect man. there are no meaningless games on TV. you have a chance to show any number of things (including that you can beat nestea on tv in korea). those things have meaning. pleasing your fans has meaning.

just because it's not a match that offers you a chance to place 1 at a tournament doesn't make it meaningless.

I was glad for the chance to see every player in a group play every other player. I paid to be entertained and I find that entertaining. one guy couldn't handle it though, he has no pride in his play and no interest in showing the world what he's capable of against nestea.
Stroke Me Lady Fame
ptrpb
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada753 Posts
December 14 2011 11:06 GMT
#1172
On December 14 2011 20:04 ethos wrote:
He could have just spent 5, at most 10 minutes of his fucking life hashing out the last game, but instead he throws it, doing something that is obviously disrespectful to Gom?

Did you really think Gom would just sit idly by while someone gets on their stage and disrespects them?
How would that make them look?

It amazes me that such a large portion of the community supports this (obvious disrespect).
Some of you are like the kids that support Kanye.

You're from South Korea so I'm sorry to say but your opinion may be skewed.
For being a Global Star League, the GSL sure does incorporate so many different cultures. The only people who were seriously offended were some of the Koreans. Instead of considering the situation from more than one point a view, a GLOBAL point of view if you will, they say "He offended Koreans, he's out".
MBAACC | SG | shit at fighting games
Thoramas
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore152 Posts
December 14 2011 11:06 GMT
#1173
Poor decision IMO, GomTV should look at themselves first for deciding on the poorly planned group format. Naniwa probably wasn't allowed to forfeit without playing cause GomTV wanted to broadcast the match, else it would have been the same as when idra forfeited all his group play matches which were for seeding when he couldn't sleep to jet lag.
pinball777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States134 Posts
December 14 2011 11:06 GMT
#1174
Doesn't matter what route GOM decides to do. If they don't get rid of him, then Koreans upset. If they do get rid of him, the West is upset. Either way some people will be upset, at least GOM is choosing the route of protecting their tournament rather than their audience which I agree with.
Mojar
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia185 Posts
December 14 2011 11:06 GMT
#1175
On December 14 2011 20:04 perestain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 20:01 mtvacuum wrote:
for the people that are trying to argue that a probe rush is a legitimate strat for someone trying to win, please, just stop...

A fake sloppy fourgate against nestea would not be anymore likely to win but would have been considered acceptable. Double standards right there.

So your saying that probes are equally as powerful as zealots and stalkers? Interesting I swear I have never seen any evidence of this, I must be not playing enough SC.
xxjondxx
Profile Joined February 2010
United States89 Posts
December 14 2011 11:06 GMT
#1176
He gets what he deserved and its disgusting that Naniwa is getting so much support for what he did. So what if you have to play a meaningless game. Guess what hes a fucking professional sc2 player and he got the chance to play in a 10 person tourney with guaranteed prize money and a chance to win 30k. Who made this happen? Gom... I'm sure there's hundreds of other players that Gom could have chosen to replace Naniwa who would have appreciated the chance to play in the most exclusive tournament they've decided to host. I would Naniwa at the very least needed to man up and at least pretend to try. He pretty much spit in the face of Gom, their sponsors, and all the viewers. He also disrespected his opponent Nestea and his actions reflect very poorly on the entire foreign community, Quantic Gaming, and himself. The sad thing is he is either too selfish or too stupid to realize that something like this would happen. Maybe the next time before he does something stupid he'll take a second to think about how his actions will reflect not only on himself, but all the organizations that make being able to play a video game for a living possible.
JoeSchmoe
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2058 Posts
December 14 2011 11:06 GMT
#1177
On December 14 2011 20:05 grobo wrote:
Already stopped watching GSL because of their horrible format but this is a fucking joke.

It's ok though, because the international SC2 scene have an infinite amount of awesome tournaments.


lol another butthurt swede. it's funny though because naniwa wants to remain in korea and train. go figure.
tnud
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden2233 Posts
December 14 2011 11:07 GMT
#1178
On December 14 2011 20:05 Spiner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 20:00 trucane wrote:
Lol at people calling naniwa defender "butt hurt". If anyone is butt hurt it's GOM. Naniwa tells them he wants to forfeit the last game because it has meaning but they force him to play it out and when he does play it out and loses on purpose they get so mad just because he didn't respect their stupid decision. Also later on they revoke his seed and slander him publicly.

Yes the Naniwa defenders are certainly the ones that are butt hurt....

GOM has shown us how immature and childish they are and I for one is gonna vote with my wallets, no more tickets for me


Why is nearly everyone from Sweden defending him? Blind nationalism eh?

Hey, hey, hey. Guess what! What Gom did is wrong! :O
OMG I know. Just so happens that we can see it.
- ಠ_ಠ - | disinfect wrote: AHAHHAHAHA 2DG FUCK ME ALREADY.
Skipton
Profile Joined December 2010
United States707 Posts
December 14 2011 11:07 GMT
#1179
On December 14 2011 20:05 grobo wrote:
Already stopped watching GSL because of their horrible format but this is a fucking joke.

It's ok though, because the international SC2 scene have an infinite amount of awesome tournaments.


which are made possible thanks to Korean players.
Vanishes
Profile Joined January 2011
19 Posts
December 14 2011 11:07 GMT
#1180
Anyone remember that guy gimix who dropped his games against whitera at MLG?
Moderately annoyed at the extremely outraged
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