EPTOn December 14 2011 20:05 Spiner wrote:
Why is nearly everyone from Sweden defending him? Blind nationalism eh?
Why is nearly everyone from Sweden defending him? Blind nationalism eh?
Why is everyone from Korea hating on him? Yeah.
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While I understand that there's a need to discuss this matter, this thread has way too many trash posts in it. Please think carefully about what you want to say. Ad hominem attacks on Swedish people in general, calling you fellow Starcraft fans idiots etc etc will be dealt with with harsher punishment from here on out. Keep it civil people. Page 230: Here's some more stuff that'll get you banned! - Conspiracy theory mongering about MLG and GOM - Comparing people to Hitler - Posting useless one liners of arguments that have already been repeated ad nauseum. | ||
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h41fgod
Sweden377 Posts
Why is everyone from Korea hating on him? Yeah. | ||
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Zanno
United States1484 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:04 galenkan wrote: All I see here is a clash of culture... If GOM is trying to cater to koreans, who are demandiing more of Naniwa (and GOMTV is trying to keep the korean viewerbase) then it's the right course of action. there's no fucking culture clash! either starcraft is a sport, or it isn't what i see, is a bunch of newbie foreigners who don't understand what "e-sport" truly means do they not have league structure sports outside of the US or something? professional atheletes are expected to play games which "don't matter" at the end of the season all the time, and if any of the players were to go into an interview and babble on about how the game didn't matter so they didn't try, they'd get thrown off the team in a minute it said right in the rules of the blizzard cup, that they would be playing a full league format | ||
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Hitcher
Belgium23 Posts
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GwSC
United States1997 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:05 anomalopidae wrote: do you think Swedes are offended by being called honest instead of shady appearance-keeping hypocrites? No, by that guy attributing Naniwa's immaturity and lack of professionalism to Swedish culture. | ||
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Elefanto
Switzerland3584 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:04 ethos wrote: He could have just spent 5, at most 10 minutes of his fucking life hashing out the last game, but instead he throws it, doing something that is obviously disrespectful to Gom? Did you really think Gom would just sit idly by while someone gets on their stage and disrespects them? How would that make them look? It amazes me that such a large portion of the community supports this (obvious disrespect). Some of you are like the kids that support Kanye. What do you expect, a vast majority of the people that follow "E-SPORTS" are below 20. Most of the posts here are written in an emotional state without any rational thought behind it. No one should really question that Nani should receive a punishment imo, but the severity of it could be. | ||
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Elem
Sweden4717 Posts
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SenorChang
Australia4729 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:05 Spiner wrote: Why is nearly everyone from Sweden defending him? Blind nationalism eh? Don't use that as an excuse, it's not only Swede's defending him. | ||
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Malpractice.248
United States734 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:06 Fade1 wrote: This is just so fucking dumb... I will not buy a pass because of this K, support childish unprofessionalism, not just shown last night. Its cool, celebs can do anything they want. | ||
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sickra
68 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:03 laggikoN wrote: Well, that's me not watching GOM anymore, fucking ridiculous, "Dont dont have meaningless matches if you want players to take them seriously." Don't join a tournament, in which you are well aware of the format beforehand, if your just going to fucking throw games. | ||
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brentsen
1252 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:04 perestain wrote: A fake sloppy fourgate against nestea would not be anymore likely to win but would have been considered acceptable. Double standards right there. It's not quite a fake standard, in other sports you often see teams that can't advance anymore not giving their best effort, that's very common. But they would never do ridiculous things like scoring own goals or whatever... so yeah, it makes a difference to play a lackluster game or decide to not try at all. I still think the punishment is too harsh though, a warning would have been enough imho. | ||
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Executor1
1353 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:02 sickra wrote: I just emailed GOM to praise them. No professional league in any sport would ever tolerate players throwing games. This punishment will prevent same thing from happening in the future. Yes he was getting payed to play in the league regardless of what anyone says. Weather the game means nothing or w/e he still had a responsibility to play to the best of his ability. I hate how people keep saying the games didnt matter so why should he play. You realise THATS WHAT PROGAMERS DO ALL DAY EVERYDAY right? They play games that dont matter for the sake of practice to get better. Most other players would have probably looked at that match at the very least to get a lan game against one of the best zergs in the world. So should naniwa probe rush every practice game as well , because they dont matter? by alot of your logics he should.... | ||
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Packawana
United States1081 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:05 anomalopidae wrote: do you think Swedes are offended by being called honest instead of shady appearance-keeping hypocrites? Who the hell are you to call Koreans appearance-keeping hypocrites? Have you lived there, are you part of that culture, are you some sort of higher authority on this planet that you can pass judgement on a people? You see, when people do stupid things like this, we practically give them the right to respond in kind. And then tell me, who the hell is right or wrong then? It's certainly not you, and it's certainly not them. | ||
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JoeSchmoe
Canada2058 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:07 h41fgod wrote: Why is everyone from Korea hating on him? Yeah. which is why he wants to remain in korea amirite? he must love all the hate he's getting there. | ||
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LamaMitHut
Germany187 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:55 Vardant wrote: And he did...but never in the history of GSL were the players forced to play a game, that didn't matter, until now. so he was forced to play the game we all hate so much!? poor naniwa. | ||
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
Naniwa has been banned from other tournaments before and is notorious for being so unprofessional he's pretty hated by every tournament and the dozen teams he's formerly played for. The problem is Naniwa's attitude. | ||
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Tppz!
Germany1449 Posts
ESL, Blizzard, MLG and now GSL. He wanted to become more mature but apparently he still is the flaming kid with no respect at all. You just dont do things like that in that enviorment. Especially not in korea. Its true that the penalty is too harsh but something had to be done. Not the best decision, but I think its a good move to punish Naniwa for his disrespectful behavior he is showing in nearly every tournament he is participating in. After all it cant be undone by both sides and maybe Naniwa will learn (again) from this and start to mature more and gets an inject of professionalism. Bad move but its good to do a move! | ||
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Rixi
Spain77 Posts
But Naniwa should grow up and stop with his behaviour,he had it coming. not smart at all. | ||
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XRaDiiX
Canada1730 Posts
On December 14 2011 20:06 pinball777 wrote: Doesn't matter what route GOM decides to do. If they don't get rid of him, then Koreans upset. If they do get rid of him, the West is upset. Either way some people will be upset, at least GOM is choosing the route of protecting their tournament rather than their audience which I agree with. Then why are they inviting Sen and IdrA for Free Spots into code S.... to protect their tournament? No they're doing it to get more viewers.(Protecting Audience) GOM TV needs to Rescind their decision from removing Naniwa from Code S.... Can you not see the hypocrisy here? | ||
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Chicodog
Denmark154 Posts
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Honga
Australia64 Posts
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