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While I understand that there's a need to discuss this matter, this thread has way too many trash posts in it. Please think carefully about what you want to say. Ad hominem attacks on Swedish people in general, calling you fellow Starcraft fans idiots etc etc will be dealt with with harsher punishment from here on out. Keep it civil people. Page 230: Here's some more stuff that'll get you banned! - Conspiracy theory mongering about MLG and GOM - Comparing people to Hitler - Posting useless one liners of arguments that have already been repeated ad nauseum. | ||
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-y0shi-
Germany994 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:34 Femari wrote: You lost respect for GOM for being professional and doing what any other league would do? Do you respect any sports organizations? I respect people who act like reasnable human beings and treat others like human beings as well.. | ||
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Bayyne
United States1967 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:34 MasterBlasterCaster wrote: I love th idiots who keep saying that professional football players play every match all the way through. News flash for you kiddies, THEY DON'T! They will kneel the ball almost every single time if they are way ahead or way behind. Furthermore, if they've already qualified for playoffs, they sit every single starter and basically throw the rest of their games away. You are all uninformed and spiteful. That is all. What are you on dude? The team that is losing/in a losing situation wont kneel the ball. The 2nd string players that come in for the 1st string players still give it 100%. Teams that are mathematically eliminated from the playoffs still show up and play. | ||
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purpose
Sweden1017 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:32 Shortizz wrote: I think ppl need to understand the REAL situation here. There might be honest ppl BETTING on Naniwa's game against Nestea with their hard earned money. How can esports be mainstream and who would support Esports betting(Which sponsors alot of KR teams btw) if ppl kept throwing games for nothing? You`d be pretty pissed too if u bet on Naniwa and he threw the game just because he didnt wanna play it yeah? It was a stupid move by Naniwa, completely retarded especially with the Savi0r incident fresh in ppl's mind. But this is exactly how it is in real sport aswell. Take the FA cup or any smaller cup that goes alongside the main leuage in fotball for example. People bet WAY more money on that then esport. And often big teams send out their B squad for those games and lose it. There have even been cases were teams wanted to lose just so they wont get extra games and could focus on the leuage and Champions Leuage. Sure people lose money but you have to take that into consideration when you place your bet. The last game can be important, but it can also be fucking pointless and that will affect the players. you dont have to probe rush to lose a game, you can go nexus first, a half arsed 4 gate etc etc, people will lose money on that to but is that a crime? When you bet you always face the risk that one side will be unmotivated and not perform on par with their skill. | ||
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Furlisht
Belgium177 Posts
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bana
Germany22 Posts
Choya was disqualified for doing "Scissor-Paper-Rock" in the LADDER. | ||
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Drizzt3
United States189 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:22 Femari wrote: More like "If you don't have integrity then gtfo." Who is fit to judge the integrity of a person, especially one you know so little about? Are you? Is Mr. Chae? Is anyone? | ||
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jjhchsc2
Korea (South)2393 Posts
sigh. | ||
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CuSToM
United States1478 Posts
Don't disrespect Nestea and maybe this won't happen... | ||
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Candide
456 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:35 Roxy wrote: i never said he didnt it was pretty obvious im just saying, he didnt violate any rules how about they ban people for sending 4 marines with 12 scvs? where do you draw the line? should we just ban everyone who loses a game because htey probably werent trying? what? 5 probes will beat 9 drones? what? .... please stop | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:35 Vansetsu wrote: Whether it's prize money or not, Naniwa is being selfish. He's there to preform and play games. Think of it like this: Have you ever had a job that involved a commission? It's kind of like Nani's job as a gamer playing in GSL. Sometimes there's money with a game (consumer), sometimes there's not and it's a waste of time. But it's never an excuse not to do your job or deal with a consumer because there is no money it it this time, and it's always grounds to get your ass fired. Naniwa sees his job as winning tournaments, not playing games for the sake of playing games. You might agree with that and you might not. | ||
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MrCash
United States1504 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:35 thoradycus wrote: MC is back :D Wrong topic to post in, however I'm with you. The Protoss hope survives to fight another day. | ||
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Nonnar
Sweden50 Posts
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Vari
United States532 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:35 Marvid wrote: Whatever your take is on this drama you can't possibly be accepting a retroactive punishment. This is just silly and shows that the GOM cooperation are not afraid to bend rules due to populism. When you run such a big tournament you HAVE to be transparent and have DEFINED rules. You can't start kicking people out because of principles if there was no rule that could support this, atleast not if the player obviously didn't know this was against the principle. Yes you can argue that this is Korean culture, but that should accept them treating an foreigner who most likely have no idea how Korean culture works. But the worst part of this is that they choose to replace him with Idra (nothing against him personaly) who have prooven on several occation to actually NOT follow this certain principle! Really... i just shake my head at this sillyness. there is a rule, it's been posted basically unsportsmanlike conduct. these things aren't really easy to spell out but a professional organization (and its fans) can tell when it occurs. like referees on a football field. if you can't handle any subjectivity in your rulings you should probably avoid any competitive environment. | ||
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Coca Cola Classic
266 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:34 MasterBlasterCaster wrote: I love th idiots who keep saying that professional football players play every match all the way through. News flash for you kiddies, THEY DON'T! They will kneel the ball almost every single time if they are way ahead or way behind. Furthermore, if they've already qualified for playoffs, they sit every single starter and basically throw the rest of their games away. You are all uninformed and spiteful. That is all. the match is not handed to the opposing team. sitting starters is similar to using a build order that is untested. he keeps his solid builds for later stages of tournaments/future. managers keep solid players for later stages of tournament/future. | ||
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bigjenk
United States1543 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:34 krews wrote: any team caught throwing a game would lose their draft pick. Happens every year and never a team punished. They just put another name on it like "developing talent" when they know for a fact they are cutting all those players in the offseason. | ||
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baoluvboa
743 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:36 azr wrote: Idra did almost the exact same thing against Jinro ages ago in the GSL. And Idra almost won. It was a legitimate strategy on a bad map for zerg. | ||
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Sanchonator
Australia490 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:18 Shellshock1122 wrote: This thread title is a little misleading. He's banned for 1 season, not permanently ? the title is exactly what happened, his seed for the season was revoked, he is no longer able to play in season 1 because he isnt qualified | ||
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CEPEHDREI
Germany1521 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:34 MasterBlasterCaster wrote: I love th idiots who keep saying that professional football players play every match all the way through. News flash for you kiddies, THEY DON'T! They will kneel the ball almost every single time if they are way ahead or way behind. Furthermore, if they've already qualified for playoffs, they sit every single starter and basically throw the rest of their games away. You are all uninformed and spiteful. That is all. not using your best starters TRANSLATES into starcraft2 with not using your best strategies. WHAT NANIWA DID was coming out of the locker room, throws the ball into the crowd and then he goes back into the fucking locker. he got rightfully punished. makes me sad that people even try to defend him. | ||
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hYrasD
Germany164 Posts
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MasterBlasterCaster
United States568 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:34 Sub40APM wrote: when they are behind? When was the last football game when this happened... When they are behind like thirty points? Oh hell yes they do. Oh I'm sorry, you want me to be literal? OK, they don't kneel, they have their fourth string running back run it right up the middle every time. Which is comparable to probe-rushing. It has zero chance of success and is literally the quickest way you can end a game while still "playing". So yeah... you're wrong. | ||
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