EPTOn December 14 2011 19:23 CAPSLOCKED wrote:
Most accurate translation I've read in a while
Most accurate translation I've read in a while
Haha, I was about to write the same thing.
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While I understand that there's a need to discuss this matter, this thread has way too many trash posts in it. Please think carefully about what you want to say. Ad hominem attacks on Swedish people in general, calling you fellow Starcraft fans idiots etc etc will be dealt with with harsher punishment from here on out. Keep it civil people. Page 230: Here's some more stuff that'll get you banned! - Conspiracy theory mongering about MLG and GOM - Comparing people to Hitler - Posting useless one liners of arguments that have already been repeated ad nauseum. | ||
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sodapop
Sweden189 Posts
Haha, I was about to write the same thing. | ||
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Scythe90
Australia137 Posts
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purpose
Sweden1017 Posts
I wonder if Neaste cried and felt humiliated because he did not get the chance to play? I think Neaste did not give a fuck tbh. This is just sad sad sad for esport and all the people who think this is correct need to stop sucking up to Korea like they are the gods of SC and that everything has to be done the way they please or otherwise its a horrible crime! | ||
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Femari
United States2900 Posts
Naniwa is getting less than Rain got. Naniwa is lucky he isn't Korean, he'd be worse off. | ||
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NGrNecris
New Zealand855 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:21 furymonkey wrote: Agree, coca withdraw in similar fashion. Good job to GOM, at least they are consistent. LOL OK. Coca was not suspended by Gom. In fact, Gom didn't do anything to Coca. Naniwa gets suspended for throwing a game. So consistent | ||
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Smurphy
United States374 Posts
1. Consider the game itself played out nearly exactly the same. 2. Naniwa has a serious expression on his face during the game, keeps his hands on the keyboard, and actively micros his probes. 3. Post game Naniwa explains that he had good information that Nestea was going to 6 pool. Naniwa further adds that a worker rush has some potential against a 6 pool. The Protoss player can arrive in the Zerg's base with 7 workers against the 5 of the Zerg. A zerg player who may not be familiar with the intricacies of the 6 pool will often lose in this scenario if they take the incorrect actions. A zerg won't have the money to afford 6 zerglings if they simply run away and if they fight it is 7 on 5. Naniwa explains that there are possible counters for the Zerg that can lead to a Zerg victory. The zerg can cancel the pool and make 3 more drones then fight 9 v 7. However, Naniwa says that Nestea will be in shock and will panic when his probes arrive. Thus, he felt that his risky play was worth the risk. He thought Nestea would 6 pool and felt Nestea would panic. Sadly, Naniwa explains that his gambit failed and Nestea quickly dispatched him. Naniwa says all of this with a serious expression on his face and he is sincere about his belief on a Nestea 6 pool and hit potential victory if correct. In this scenario do you feel that Naniwa should lose his Code S spot? | ||
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TheRealPaciFist
United States1049 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:20 Weemoed wrote: Which is a strange rule because it doesn't describe anything. In the end, it gives GOM the option to ban a player according to this rule without explaining why the person was banned. In this case it is obvious (although I don't agree) but such rules are not good for a proffessional organisation. The rule should be explained in much more detail. At this moment, it just says 'if we don't like you, you can get banned'. Brilliant. This. If GOM banned Naniwa for throwing a game, then good for GOM. But they should have a rule specifically for such a thing... Chae comparing Naniwa to an amateur money hunter is fucked up. The format should just be changed to not have games played that don't matter. Thanks to the tie breaker we ended up with more games anyway. Naniwa doesn't need this drama | ||
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baoluvboa
743 Posts
I will buy a ticket this year to support them. | ||
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xBillehx
United States1289 Posts
Naniwa did something stupid on air so he's out for a season. Tough luck, he'll have to take the time to practice, work on his professional conduct and re-qualify for season 2. Not only does that show he deserves to be among the best but he'll also have proven (to the GSL, Korean fans & other progamers) he's not just a prize hunter and actually cares about being one of the best progamers. | ||
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gullberg
Sweden1301 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:24 Shortizz wrote: Pretty much. I highly doubt the viewership from sweden for GSL will decrease. If anything, most of them just wont pay for it but stay up for the free stream anyways. The stream starts at 10am in Sweden, which means that most of us with jobs/school never watch it anyways lol. | ||
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MrCash
United States1504 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:25 Jiddra wrote: Saying that someone should be happy they was tortured beacuse they could have been killed is not really a positiove spin on it. You can see it as trying to be realistically optimistic. Unrealistically optimistic would be to hope for GOM to withdraw the ban. | ||
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JoeSchmoe
Canada2058 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:25 Jiddra wrote: Saying that someone should be happy they was tortured beacuse they could have been killed is not really a positiove spin on it. your analogy cannot be better. i feel bad for coca because he would be dead. | ||
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lxxpxrd
10 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:23 TI444 wrote: Despite every single poster from sweden complaining, the community seems to support GOMTV on this on. Huge props to GOMTV for doing the right thing. TheGunrun tweeted that it was wrong. Are you saying TheGunrun is wrong about something? I'm not Swedish and I don't care that it was Naniwa. They are banning someone for an obscure and vague reason to cover up their own blunder. If he had FAKED playing a game everyone would be happy. How is that integrity "It's better if you just lie and pretend to play." What they are saying is that integrity is about lying to fool the fans. | ||
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dapierow
Serbia1316 Posts
Quite Pathetic actually, how the community always looks for small to exaggerate and blame organizations because the community can never be held responsible. The Coca and this incident are to appease the community because the fact is, if its not done, there is outrage, and if there is somthing done, there is still outrage | ||
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virpi
Germany3599 Posts
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.Natsu
68 Posts
Still - I think this is so wrong. Naniwa is a real progamer who works his ass off to bring good results. Whether he does it for himself or for the fans is irrelevant because fans are the ones that benefit from it regardless. There is no doubt that what Naniwa did was selfish but considering all the context of his decision, he should have been forgiven for it. It's the least we can do to show at least some appreciation for hard work that Naniwa ultimately puts into entertainig us fans (even though he himself may do it for other reasons). I don't think Naniwa is a prize mone hunter. I think it's just that he is only interested in number 1 spot and once he can't get it, he doesn't want to play. I'm really dissapointed with how Koreans saw that and handled that - their culture and point of view are way too different from my own. | ||
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Phenny
Australia1435 Posts
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
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Kubricks
284 Posts
I will miss his antics for the next few months. Hope he doesn't give up on SC2. I still want to see him to ruin his own dreams more, while bringing fuel to a vast population of ill-focused hotheads that, unaware to themselves, absolutely love the amount of interest GOMTV can bring to their day-to-day lives. | ||
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:24 Vari wrote: difference between an invite tourney with the best in the world and a match played purely for next season's placement any naniwa fan who didn't get excited when they looked at the upcoming match and saw that nani was definitely going to play nestea is crazy! Actually I'm a Naniwa fan and I stopped watching before that game because I knew it would be a bad game. Call me crazy. Though I didn't expect it to go as far as a probe rush.  | ||
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