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While I understand that there's a need to discuss this matter, this thread has way too many trash posts in it. Please think carefully about what you want to say. Ad hominem attacks on Swedish people in general, calling you fellow Starcraft fans idiots etc etc will be dealt with with harsher punishment from here on out. Keep it civil people.

Page 230: Here's some more stuff that'll get you banned!
- Conspiracy theory mongering about MLG and GOM
- Comparing people to Hitler
- Posting useless one liners of arguments that have already been repeated ad nauseum.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
December 14 2011 10:19 GMT
#461
On December 14 2011 19:17 hugman wrote:
Tbh he probably needed a real wake up call

Yeah, but he had so many already... i really don't know what Naniwa will do now. His reputation seems kind of bad in korea now.
Phenny
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1435 Posts
December 14 2011 10:19 GMT
#462
So disgusting they do this when he broke no rules.

If players don't have the freedom to play the game however they see fit what's the point ugh...
Xlancer
Profile Joined February 2010
United States126 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 10:22:40
December 14 2011 10:19 GMT
#463
Where in the GSL Rules did it say that players can't probe rush? If GSL wants to ban players for doing all in strats that they don't care if they win or lose at, then it should be clearly stated in the tournament's rules.

Naniwa should probably sue GOMTV for their improper disqualification. He'd almost 100% win unless Korean laws are drastically different than the US.
“The only thing we learn from history is that we learn nothing from history.” - Friedrich Hegel
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5710 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 10:20:42
December 14 2011 10:19 GMT
#464
On December 14 2011 18:41 Kiyo. wrote:
Time to get a $100 refund on my premium ticket.


So you payed $100 just to watch Naniwa?

According to rules, he broke them and thats the punishment. He didn't play or act professionally and wasted everyones time, even dissapointing his own team ffs. He gets punished accordingly.

On December 14 2011 19:19 Xlancer wrote:
Where in the GSL Rules did it say that players can't probe rush? If GSL wants to ban players for doing all in strats that they don't care if they win or lose at, then it should be clearly stated in the tournament's rules.


You obviously either don't know the whole story or are purposely trolling.

It's not the fact that he probe rushed but the fact why he probe rushed and his attitude towards the whole situation.
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KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
December 14 2011 10:19 GMT
#465
On December 14 2011 19:18 Femari wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 19:16 Drizzt3 wrote:
On December 14 2011 19:12 Femari wrote:
On December 14 2011 19:12 Drizzt3 wrote:
The question isn't if Naniwa did something inappropriate, the question is if Naniwa committed a punishable act, to which I think the clear answer is no.

According to the rules, yes he did.


What rule did he break?

GOM has a rule in which you are deemed to be unfit of the title of progamer they can ban you.

I translate it:

"If we don't like you we can kick you!"
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butch
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium684 Posts
December 14 2011 10:19 GMT
#466
I just hope Nani won't take this too harshly, yesterday showed how emotionally unstable he is after losing those games, he's going to be devastated when he hears his code S spot which he worked so hard for is taken away...
Marauder Die Die
Narw
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland884 Posts
December 14 2011 10:19 GMT
#467
Thats what happens when you spit in face of people that you are supposed to work for/with. Naniwa isn't special snowflake, he should just play his game instead of showing how cool he is. He got what he deserved.
AndAgain
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2621 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 10:20:21
December 14 2011 10:19 GMT
#468
I think Naniwa had no idea that this would be such a big deal. He thought that he was just being Naniwa.
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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
December 14 2011 10:19 GMT
#469
On December 14 2011 19:19 Darneck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 19:17 Coca Cola Classic wrote:
On December 14 2011 19:12 jalstar wrote:
Uh DeMuslim worker rushed in ESWC qualifiers when he found out he couldn't go, it's not like worker rushing as a means of forfeiting a game is unprecedented.

And Naniwa did tell GOM he intended to forfeit the game IIRC.


Telling GOM that he intended to forfeit and GOM told him to play the match out...what does anyone expect to happen to naniwa after not playing the match out? The punishment was obviously going to come. =T

If it's true that he hold them he intended to forfeit GOM seriously should have warned him beforehand that this would be what they were gonna do.

Once again.... such a horrible move by GOM, it's amazing how quickly they can blow away all their respect with one move.

Yeah, unlike naniwa who has lost my respect over the course of many, many actions.
ChowChillaCharlie
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden677 Posts
December 14 2011 10:19 GMT
#470
Calling NaNiWa a "prizemoney hunter" is just about the most retarded thing i've ever heard, i can't even tell if they're joking or are genuinely stupid.

Way too make a derp decsion GOM, way to go.
HappyChris
Profile Joined October 2011
1534 Posts
December 14 2011 10:19 GMT
#471
this must be a joke huge overraction.. Im defiantly not gonna pay to watch GSL anymore wtf.

He didnt broke any rules at all and thats a fact. Should he have done it? No. But banning him from GSL a spot he earned?.

It seems the koreans just dont like Naniwa and wanted him out nothing todo with justice or fairness
gregnog
Profile Joined December 2010
United States289 Posts
December 14 2011 10:19 GMT
#472
On December 14 2011 19:18 mrtomjones wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 19:16 zeru wrote:
GOM so unprofessional

*professional

Fixe that for you. Unless you mixe up your names an you meant Naniwa instead of GOM.


So fail.

GL in the future Naniwa, I respect your drive to be the best.

Funny how the GOM wants to say he is a money hunter.... why would you play the farce of a tournament (GSL) if you want to make money? He could make more/easier money sitting at home streaming and winning Euro/NA tourneys.

At least get your bullshit lies straight GOM.
thatsundowner
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada312 Posts
December 14 2011 10:20 GMT
#473
On December 14 2011 19:18 perestain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 19:17 Troopi wrote:
On December 14 2011 19:09 labbe wrote:
This is so fucking stupid. I cannot believe that I have supported GOMTV with my money until now. I have paid for almost every season so far, and then they go ahead and do this kind of shit? I am never ever watching another GSL event, and I am sure as hell not buying any more tickets.

This is literally just shitting on their viewers. Do they really expect people to pay for their sevices, and get emotionally engaged in their players, when they just ban players on a whim? Not even a warning? Not a fine?

GOMTV, I sincerely regret to ever have bought your services, and I feel utterly betrayed as a customer. I hope you are fucking happy.


I think GOM wants to show good Starcraft. Not drone rushing.

Fans are mad obviously


If they want to show good starcraft they should give players an incentive to compete instead of forcing idiotic showmatches.


"pointless" games are played in sports all the time
"you're gonna fail" in latin
Chained
Profile Joined February 2010
United States137 Posts
December 14 2011 10:20 GMT
#474
I think this is an overreaction, but its a completely different culture out there, its hard to say whats really an overreaction. There are plenty of things people do to get banned in the US or EU that might be okay elsewhere. If this is only for a season, I think its fine. Ill say this, that game wasnt pointless anymore HAH lol.
lxxpxrd
Profile Joined December 2011
10 Posts
December 14 2011 10:20 GMT
#475
On December 14 2011 19:11 Legace wrote:
How incredibly unprofessional of Mr. Chae calling Naniwa a "prize-money hunter". Shame on you, Mr. Chae, including such opinions in a ruling.

As for the punishment, it was expected though I still think it's way out of proportion. They should have just fined him and banned him from further invitationals.
Naniwa made an extremely poor descision but this kneejerk punishment only reflects poorly upon GomTV.


Choya tweeted a similar insult at Naniwa after the game - the same Choya that lost his progamer career after being caught matchfixing, although it was kept quiet.

Naniwa would not live in Korea if he only cared about money. It is not the easiest way to make money.


Korean scene has some serious double standards going on.
gullberg
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Sweden1301 Posts
December 14 2011 10:20 GMT
#476
On December 14 2011 19:17 hugman wrote:
Tbh he probably needed a real wake up call

100% agree. The behaviour that he has shown throughout his career is unacceptable
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
December 14 2011 10:20 GMT
#477
On December 14 2011 19:18 -y0shi- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 19:08 Bayyne wrote:
On December 14 2011 19:04 -y0shi- wrote:
GSL is a joke lol...

Im kinda new and planned on purchasing a ticket for the first time but nope, never will get money for this shit in my life...
This is soo disgusting, seriously. If he says he couldnt have played a good game anyways and couldnt deliver a good show, then what is the point of forcing him to play?

had he just 4 gated, same result...


You've obviously never played organized sports have you? If so, you would understand that despite being in a losing and unwinnable situation, you still try your best. When the Lakers are whooping on the Clippers by 30 points with 2minutes left in the game, the refs don't just call it quits. The coach of the Clippers doesn't forfeit the game. The players still play the game out.

It's called being sportsmanlike, and if you don't act that way you deserve the repurcussions given to you.


Because they cant since theoretical something impossible could happen.. Like the munich vs manchester game.. But the referee finishes the game the moment the official time is over..

They can't because there are paying customers/sponsers/fans/Tv stations involved. Very similar to this.
-y0shi-
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany994 Posts
December 14 2011 10:20 GMT
#478
On December 14 2011 19:17 Ktk wrote:
Lol at everyone saying "oh man i'm not going to support GOM because I'm angry at them".

GSL will go on without you. I guess you guys aren't capable of respecting other peoples' opinions. Especially the ones that matter (that is, GOM staff as a whole).

Seriously?


Im just not going to support an organisation that does stupid stuff liuke that, unfortunatly they will never notice but if no one steps up nothing will ever happen in anything.. I respect their opinion but I still think theyre a bunch of hypocrites and cant be ttaken serious..
Vari
Profile Joined September 2010
United States532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 10:20:53
December 14 2011 10:20 GMT
#479
On December 14 2011 19:19 Phenny wrote:
So disgusting they do this when he broke no rules.

If players don't have the freedom to play the game however they see fit what's the point ugh...

the point is to provide quality games and good entertainment

if the player "played the game" by leaving his probes idle and walking out of the booth and dancing I wouldn't want him in the gsl either


edit gom is hypocritical? how? when did this ever happen before?
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Gladiator6
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden7024 Posts
December 14 2011 10:20 GMT
#480
On December 14 2011 19:19 Zzoram wrote:
IF he only lost his seed and isn't banned, he might be able to just qualify.

Given the way he's been playing lately, he might actually qualify for Code A.


He lost his seed plus was banned next season.
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