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While I understand that there's a need to discuss this matter, this thread has way too many trash posts in it. Please think carefully about what you want to say. Ad hominem attacks on Swedish people in general, calling you fellow Starcraft fans idiots etc etc will be dealt with with harsher punishment from here on out. Keep it civil people.

Page 230: Here's some more stuff that'll get you banned!
- Conspiracy theory mongering about MLG and GOM
- Comparing people to Hitler
- Posting useless one liners of arguments that have already been repeated ad nauseum.
Drizzt3
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States189 Posts
December 14 2011 10:16 GMT
#421
On December 14 2011 19:12 Femari wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 19:12 Drizzt3 wrote:
The question isn't if Naniwa did something inappropriate, the question is if Naniwa committed a punishable act, to which I think the clear answer is no.

According to the rules, yes he did.


What rule did he break?
"Before my time is done I will look down at your corpse and smile."-Brad Pitt (Achilles)
LiLSighKoh
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States588 Posts
December 14 2011 10:16 GMT
#422
On December 14 2011 18:43 Terranigma wrote:
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On December 14 2011 18:40 Tatari wrote:
People pay to watch pro-gamers play to their best and fullest potential, not for some bronze level worker rush cheese.


Does that count for team matches as well? When qxc all-killed IM (I think), the first three players IM sent out were definitely not on their A roster. Seemed to be okay there to not show your best players.


They might have not been their A-team but they sure didn't throw away games like Naniwa did.
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zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
December 14 2011 10:16 GMT
#423
--- Nuked ---
Darneck
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden1394 Posts
December 14 2011 10:16 GMT
#424
On December 14 2011 19:15 jalstar wrote:
If Naniwa only cares about prize money then why does he regularly forfeit prize money matches at MLG, eg 7th vs 8th place matches?

Naniwa cares about getting 1st, there's a huge difference between that and caring only about prize money.

Plus now he decided to only compete in GSL which is pretty much horrible to do solely for the money unless you win it.
Stropheum
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1124 Posts
December 14 2011 10:16 GMT
#425
I don't see how this is a hyperbolic punishment. He basically throws a game (granted it wasn't FOR anything per se, but he's representing complexity as well as foreigners as a whole, as well as providing entertainment for GOM - which is basically the terms of his contract currently)

and GOM responds by treating him with the same respect they were given.

Fine by me. Naniwa needs to realize that he's representing more than just his own skill when he gets up on that stage. Just because prize money and titles aren't on the line doesn't mean you're representing your team or the host event any less.

If you agree to the terms of the event then you agree to all of the subsequent matches that are part of it. Granted I disagree with the format. Hosting useless games is basically just filler, and while I can see that it's a good idea for stretching time, obviously issues like this can result. All in all, naniwa comes back in a season, doesn't probe rush, and all is forgotten.
nekoconeco
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia359 Posts
December 14 2011 10:16 GMT
#426
On December 14 2011 19:12 Femari wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 19:12 Drizzt3 wrote:
The question isn't if Naniwa did something inappropriate, the question is if Naniwa committed a punishable act, to which I think the clear answer is no.

According to the rules, yes he did.


No he didn't can you actually point me to that rule that says you cannot worker rush.
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IMMABEASTBRUH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States271 Posts
December 14 2011 10:16 GMT
#427
On December 14 2011 19:13 Madder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 19:11 IMMABEASTBRUH wrote:
On December 14 2011 19:10 Madder wrote:
On December 14 2011 19:10 iCemiLo wrote:
if this is true, i support gom's decision anyway

So cool and edgy.


Thanks for the perspective and they well-thought-out content; I applaud your position within the community

I don't support GOM's decision and there is no way in hell I will be giving them my money anymore. Better?


Yes - of course. Because instead of slamming a user's comment with your own snide remark, you've inserted yourself into the discussion with your own opinion.

I MEAN IM DRUNK AS SHIT FROM SOTG ANDI HAVE TO LECTURE U ON THIS
Qwix
Profile Joined October 2010
531 Posts
December 14 2011 10:17 GMT
#428
On December 14 2011 19:12 leBIGcrab wrote:
If it's true, i'll never buy your membership again, and i won't even watch your GSL games live, nor browses your site. I might even get your VOD's and spread them on internet. I don't care about killing e-sports if that's how it's ruled. Such a bunch of unfair people.

I had respect GOM.

I love IdrA, I hate Nani. But your rules need to change, and your states of mind too.

*cough* Like the VODs are hard to find on the net *cough*
Coca Cola Classic
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
266 Posts
December 14 2011 10:17 GMT
#429
On December 14 2011 19:12 jalstar wrote:
Uh DeMuslim worker rushed in ESWC qualifiers when he found out he couldn't go, it's not like worker rushing as a means of forfeiting a game is unprecedented.

And Naniwa did tell GOM he intended to forfeit the game IIRC.


Telling GOM that he intended to forfeit and GOM told him to play the match out...what does anyone expect to happen to naniwa after not playing the match out? The punishment was obviously going to come. =T
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hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
December 14 2011 10:17 GMT
#430
Tbh he probably needed a real wake up call
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
December 14 2011 10:17 GMT
#431
I feel really sad for Naniwa now T_T Poor guy...
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Troopi
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark383 Posts
December 14 2011 10:17 GMT
#432
On December 14 2011 19:09 labbe wrote:
This is so fucking stupid. I cannot believe that I have supported GOMTV with my money until now. I have paid for almost every season so far, and then they go ahead and do this kind of shit? I am never ever watching another GSL event, and I am sure as hell not buying any more tickets.

This is literally just shitting on their viewers. Do they really expect people to pay for their sevices, and get emotionally engaged in their players, when they just ban players on a whim? Not even a warning? Not a fine?

GOMTV, I sincerely regret to ever have bought your services, and I feel utterly betrayed as a customer. I hope you are fucking happy.


I think GOM wants to show good Starcraft. Not drone rushing.

Fans are mad obviously
Ktk
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Korea (South)753 Posts
December 14 2011 10:17 GMT
#433
Lol at everyone saying "oh man i'm not going to support GOM because I'm angry at them".

GSL will go on without you. I guess you guys aren't capable of respecting other peoples' opinions. Especially the ones that matter (that is, GOM staff as a whole).

Seriously?
Luppy1
Profile Joined June 2011
Singapore177 Posts
December 14 2011 10:17 GMT
#434
On December 14 2011 19:11 warcralft wrote:
Revoking Code S seed = Good
Banning him from GSL = Not Good.

But i think he isnt banned? Is he?



Not banned. Just lost the seed for the first season.
Nabes
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1800 Posts
December 14 2011 10:17 GMT
#435
So idra and or sen get nani's code s spot because of a worthless all in? calling nani a money hunter? lol go buy your viewers with idra more GSL.
Madder
Profile Joined February 2010
Australia427 Posts
December 14 2011 10:17 GMT
#436
On December 14 2011 19:16 IMMABEASTBRUH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 19:13 Madder wrote:
On December 14 2011 19:11 IMMABEASTBRUH wrote:
On December 14 2011 19:10 Madder wrote:
On December 14 2011 19:10 iCemiLo wrote:
if this is true, i support gom's decision anyway

So cool and edgy.


Thanks for the perspective and they well-thought-out content; I applaud your position within the community

I don't support GOM's decision and there is no way in hell I will be giving them my money anymore. Better?


Yes - of course. Because instead of slamming a user's comment with your own snide remark, you've inserted yourself into the discussion with your own opinion.

As did you. Good job, man.
Peleus
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia420 Posts
December 14 2011 10:18 GMT
#437
Guess he did have something to play for in that game, well deserved imo.
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
December 14 2011 10:18 GMT
#438
On December 14 2011 19:16 zeru wrote:
GOM so unprofessional

*professional

Fixe that for you. Unless you mixe up your names an you meant Naniwa instead of GOM.
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
December 14 2011 10:18 GMT
#439
On December 14 2011 19:15 jalstar wrote:
If Naniwa only cares about prize money then why does he regularly forfeit prize money matches at MLG, eg 7th vs 8th place matches?

Naniwa cares about getting 1st, there's a huge difference between that and caring only about prize money.


And he is not the only one not taking those games serious.
I am not young enough to know everything.
-y0shi-
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany994 Posts
December 14 2011 10:18 GMT
#440
On December 14 2011 19:08 Bayyne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 19:04 -y0shi- wrote:
GSL is a joke lol...

Im kinda new and planned on purchasing a ticket for the first time but nope, never will get money for this shit in my life...
This is soo disgusting, seriously. If he says he couldnt have played a good game anyways and couldnt deliver a good show, then what is the point of forcing him to play?

had he just 4 gated, same result...


You've obviously never played organized sports have you? If so, you would understand that despite being in a losing and unwinnable situation, you still try your best. When the Lakers are whooping on the Clippers by 30 points with 2minutes left in the game, the refs don't just call it quits. The coach of the Clippers doesn't forfeit the game. The players still play the game out.

It's called being sportsmanlike, and if you don't act that way you deserve the repurcussions given to you.


Because they cant since theoretical something impossible could happen.. Like the munich vs manchester game.. But the referee finishes the game the moment the official time is over..
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