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NaNiwa not invited to Code S - Page 23
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While I understand that there's a need to discuss this matter, this thread has way too many trash posts in it. Please think carefully about what you want to say. Ad hominem attacks on Swedish people in general, calling you fellow Starcraft fans idiots etc etc will be dealt with with harsher punishment from here on out. Keep it civil people. Page 230: Here's some more stuff that'll get you banned! - Conspiracy theory mongering about MLG and GOM - Comparing people to Hitler - Posting useless one liners of arguments that have already been repeated ad nauseum. | ||
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Femari
United States2900 Posts
GOM has a rule in which you are deemed to be unfit of the title of progamer they can ban you. | ||
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ChatimentZ
Belgium227 Posts
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Logros
Netherlands9913 Posts
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LimitSEA
Australia9580 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:03 Veldril wrote: Sen replaces him so it's not that bad. BTW, it seems that there actually rules against what Naniwa's did, as posted by TBO and CryingPoo in the other thread: If Naniwa is viewed as disrespectful to his opponent and viewer then it would be fit with the second rule, and again they can deny entry as they want from the first place. This ^ Agree 100%. What he did was disrespectful and completely unprofessional. The punishment is justified. | ||
Shellshock
United States97277 Posts
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Vari
United States532 Posts
give the spot to someone that deserves it and doesn't turn into a child when they lose someone with pride in themselves and their team | ||
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CrimsonSpire
9 Posts
The Naniwa punishment was by far overboard. | ||
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perestain
Germany308 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:17 Troopi wrote: I think GOM wants to show good Starcraft. Not drone rushing. Fans are mad obviously If they want to show good starcraft they should give players an incentive to compete instead of forcing idiotic showmatches. | ||
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luck_star21
United States264 Posts
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Silidons
United States2813 Posts
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MrCash
United States1504 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:15 jalstar wrote: If Naniwa only cares about prize money then why does he regularly forfeit prize money matches at MLG, eg 7th vs 8th place matches? Naniwa cares about getting 1st, there's a huge difference between that and caring only about prize money. I've heard so many say this about Naniwa, but never once from him. Honestly this feels like some self-justification for being unprofessional he tells his friends and I don't really see anything that makes this theory more legitimate then him simply being oblivious and selfish. | ||
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legaton
France1763 Posts
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pookadin
Australia422 Posts
I dont even think that behaviour would have flown at any big western tournament like MLG. I applaud GOMTV and MrChae for maintaining the high standard of players in the GSL tournaments. | ||
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
Given the way he's been playing lately, he might actually qualify for Code A. | ||
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talismania
United States2364 Posts
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TRAP[yoo]
Hungary6026 Posts
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Darneck
Sweden1394 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:17 Coca Cola Classic wrote: Telling GOM that he intended to forfeit and GOM told him to play the match out...what does anyone expect to happen to naniwa after not playing the match out? The punishment was obviously going to come. =T If it's true that he hold them he intended to forfeit GOM seriously should have warned him beforehand that this would be what they were gonna do. Once again.... such a horrible move by GOM, it's amazing how quickly they can blow away all their respect with one move. | ||
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bartus88
Netherlands491 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:05 Vindicare605 wrote: I can guarantee you that Polt, Leenock, Nestea, or MMA would have played that game out whether it mattered or not. GOM isn't to blame for Naniwa essentially rage quitting out of their tournament after he got massacred in his previous matches. Naniwa doesn't have a professional enough demeanor to play in GOM's tournaments and as far as I'm concerned if he's capable of doing this once he's capable of doing it again. GOM's call to make. It's their seed to hand out. If Naniwa doesn't want to play for it in the Blizzard Cup I know there are plenty of players as good or better than he is in the Code A up and downs that would've played out that match he threw for that spot. GOM pays their players just for BEING in Code S, they treat their players well enough for them to tolerate a sup optimal format. the MLG has a worse format and pays its players less. Good riddance. I don't usually argue with people on the internet, but your post is pretty uninformed and I hope that by pointing it out to you, you'll put more thoughts into what you say next time. First of all, just because other people players would act differently doesn't make Naniwa's actions wrong. This is a really big logical mistake that people make all the time and it annoys me a lot. Second, I don't think you watched his games at all. In fact, I'm sure of it. He did not get massacred at all, all his previous games were pretty close. Third, just because he did it once, doesn't mean he'll do it again. I believe chances are pretty big he won't do it again if they gave him a severe warning. You're implying people are incapable of change, which I hope isn't true, otherwise this post will have been useless. | ||
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Vardant
Czech Republic620 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:17 hugman wrote: Tbh he probably needed a real wake up call What kind would that be exactly? If you wanna be the best SC2 player, you have to lie to your fans and audience and pretend you care about games, that don't mean anything? | ||
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Chise
Japan507 Posts
On December 14 2011 19:17 Ktk wrote: Lol at everyone saying "oh man i'm not going to support GOM because I'm angry at them". GSL will go on without you. I guess you guys aren't capable of respecting other peoples' opinions. Especially the ones that matter (that is, GOM staff as a whole). Seriously? Yes, GSL will go on without me. This has nothing to do with not accepting GOMs decision, it's about not supporting it. The way to do it is by not paying. | ||
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