NaNiwa not invited to Code S - Page 235

On December 15 2011 01:42 MorroW wrote:
but dont you guys agree in general making a rule where if a game doesnt matter, player should be allowed to request for walkover? or do you prefer them to be forced to play a game that doesnt matter? because this to me is far more important discussion than whatever else happened here

a rule like this to me, makes perfect sense

On December 15 2011 02:11 Psychobabas wrote:
Naniwa anti-establishment. I love this guy.

On December 15 2011 02:10 zala2023 wrote:

what do you mean by "nothing to play for"?
last time i checked most progamers cared about their fans and want to show their best efforts to their fans and people who supported them? instead naniwa derped around, and now his image took a nosedive

On December 15 2011 02:10 TiTanIum_ wrote:
When IdrA left the GSL mid season, no one gave two thoughts about it. There wasn´t a 230+ page thread on Team Liquid and GOM didn´t ban IdrA from GSL. Now Nani drops a meaningless game and there is this shit storm. I really can´t understand.

On December 15 2011 01:53 MorroW wrote:

well as a player, again, i would never want to act a game for my fans. would make me feel like a fraud.

plus i would never want to watch or hear that flash (who i am fan of) would be forced to act a game that doesnt matter


but if you sign the contract and make it clear with the tournament admins that you HAVE to play ALL games, then this was wrong by naniwa. but we get into these iffy situations at times because of the tournament organisation, and their format doesnt make it clear to the players what they have to do when they sign up for the tournament.

if gsl said in beforehand "naniwa, even if you lose 0-3 and some other guy lose 0-3, you still have to play your game against him even if the game doesnt matter at all, try to make the game look good okok?". so agreeing to these things in beforehand is the orgas responsibility, not the players

if naniwa knew this would revoke his code S, im 110% sure he wouldnt probe rush. but the orga failed to "warn" him or make it clear to him about the conditions which is the reason all this happened in the first place. that is why i think it was wrong for gsl to point the finger at naniwa and punish him. that is why i think its the tournament orgas to blame, not the player

On December 15 2011 02:13 Wallstreet11 wrote:


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On December 15 2011 02:13 Hnnngg wrote:


Yeah, great for growing eSports.

Sorry, that was sarcasm. Naniwa needs to step it up or he doesn't deserve to work under the banner of eSports.

Yeah I said work, like actually doing his job. Probe rushing is not his job, entertaining/competing (the same fucking thing) is his job.

On December 15 2011 02:10 zala2023 wrote:

what do you mean by "nothing to play for"?
last time i checked most progamers cared about their fans and want to show their best efforts to their fans and people who supported them? instead naniwa derped around, and now his image took a nosedive

On December 15 2011 02:14 Asymmetric wrote:
Just so we can clear things up what is the minium work required to put into a exhibition match before it stops being "legitimate" and becomes a "sham"

Is there an APM limit you've got to reach or a certain miminium strategy you've got to pursue.

"You must at very least 4-gate or cannon rush as protoss and reach an average APM of 50"

I just want some clear guides from GOM for the players

On December 15 2011 02:06 SC2NeCro wrote:


Except both of them were out of the tournament, so what were they trying to fix, huh?