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While I understand that there's a need to discuss this matter, this thread has way too many trash posts in it. Please think carefully about what you want to say. Ad hominem attacks on Swedish people in general, calling you fellow Starcraft fans idiots etc etc will be dealt with with harsher punishment from here on out. Keep it civil people. Page 230: Here's some more stuff that'll get you banned! - Conspiracy theory mongering about MLG and GOM - Comparing people to Hitler - Posting useless one liners of arguments that have already been repeated ad nauseum. | ||
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Psychobabas
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Condor Hero
United States2931 Posts
On December 15 2011 02:10 TiTanIum_ wrote: When IdrA left the GSL mid season, no one gave two thoughts about it. There wasn´t a 230+ page thread on Team Liquid and GOM didn´t ban IdrA from GSL. Now Nani drops a meaningless game and there is this shit storm. I really can´t understand. If you can't understand the difference, then just stop trying because you'll never see it. | ||
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baoluvboa
743 Posts
On December 15 2011 02:09 StarStruck wrote: Teams play prospects sit out star athletes to see what they got. Teams are so down and out and lack complete confidence. When the game becomes a blowout, some players retire. How much fight you have left? Some players don't show up for whatever reason (lack of confidence, not meshing with players, don't like the coaching philosophy). Blah, blah, blah. Shall I continue? Amateur sports are a bit different than professional sports. Especially Olympics. Way more to it. Lots of athletes want to know where they stand in the world and it varies from event to event. In some cases you have no choice in certain races, or if the judging is based on a measurement. So yeah, not necessarily the best comparison. You want the top players to compete at their highest level there should always be something more on the line. Teams actually play it out correctly instead of a strategy with zero % win rate. Teams sub in B teams so that they can earn experience and that their A team doesnt suffer injuries (competitive values) Teams/players are often punished for misbehavior as well. | ||
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SC2NeCro
Canada507 Posts
On December 15 2011 02:08 Femari wrote: You are still match-fixing. Doesn't mean it's a malicious sAviOr type of thing, but by definition it's match-fixing. Match fixing occurs between the cooperation of 2 parties, with a pre-determined positive result for one of them. None of this happened. It was a thrown game that is all, stop blowing it out of proportion. | ||
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haffy
United Kingdom430 Posts
On December 15 2011 02:10 zala2023 wrote: what do you mean by "nothing to play for"? last time i checked most progamers cared about their fans and want to show their best efforts to their fans and people who supported them? instead naniwa derped around, and now his image took a nosedive He gains absolutely nothing from playing. You can force your ideals and opinions on him all you like. But I bet from his point of view he had nothing to play for. | ||
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mememolly
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Govou
Canada1072 Posts
Though I think Naniwa got the invite based on GOM's decision. | ||
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Wallstreet11
133 Posts
On December 15 2011 02:02 diophan wrote: Did you watch the game? He never used the keyboard, he grabbed all his probes, a moved into his opponent's base, and did nothing else for the rest of the game. So he should be judged that using one hand cuts his win % by 50 percentage points? Oh okay. So exactly HOW should you use yout body if you would like to GET AWAY with losing a pointless game? So everyone can prepare... At least he A moved and same did Nestea. BAN Nestea for not microing! | ||
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tranmillitary
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Femari
United States2900 Posts
On December 15 2011 02:10 zala2023 wrote: what do you mean by "nothing to play for"? last time i checked most progamers cared about their fans and want to show their best efforts to their fans and people who supported them? instead naniwa derped around, and now his image took a nosedive He really didn't have much of an image before this. Anyone who had been around is used to this. | ||
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Drunkface
United States46 Posts
Anyway, it wasn't for completely meaningless. It sorts out the rank between Nestea and Naniwa In the same way that a ladder game would, which is not at all. Obviously they weren't going to reveal anything good or put any significant amount of effort into a meaningless game. | ||
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Akta
447 Posts
On December 15 2011 02:04 zala2023 wrote: Nani does a lot of stupid stuff but seems pretty obvious that what drives him is being the best player in the world.he is a prize hunter was he not? only play seriously when theres potential money to be made does not care about his fans, when theres no money on the line, goes for random probe rush | ||
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Vardant
Czech Republic620 Posts
On December 15 2011 02:09 ElephantBaby wrote: Any game with audience is not pointless. In this case even with production crew, and last thing you were paid to play it. Where did this notion came from? I've never heard this before. I know people get awarded for placing well in a tournament, but I've never heard about one, where they pay you to play. That's where your sponsors or employer come in. | ||
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JuneMay
49 Posts
This game was not meaningless. It was game that decide who was 4th and 5th in group. And also game between great rivals Nestea and Naniwa. If game doesn't effect money prize it doesn't mean its meaningless. Once again nice job GOM. | ||
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Weemoed
Netherlands741 Posts
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Rick Roy
United States59 Posts
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Tachion
Canada8573 Posts
On December 15 2011 02:11 haffy wrote: He gains absolutely nothing from playing. You can force your ideals and opinions on him all you like. But I bet from his point of view he had nothing to play for. nothing monetary? So he is a money grubbing amateur? Or does he have it in him to play 1 game that a ton of fans wanted to see? | ||
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SafeAsCheese
United States4924 Posts
On December 15 2011 02:10 TiTanIum_ wrote: When IdrA left the GSL mid season, no one gave two thoughts about it. There wasn´t a 230+ page thread on Team Liquid and GOM didn´t ban IdrA from GSL. Now Nani drops a meaningless game and there is this shit storm. I really can´t understand. IdrA left after he was eliminated from his last GSL Why shouldn't he have been allowed to leave? He was no longer part of the tourney, and he left with good will from GOM? You act like he just got up and left and fucked their tourney up or something. | ||
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StarStruck
25339 Posts
On December 15 2011 02:09 Skyreaper wrote: This argument about Nani is getting nowhere. Do you truly believe that NaNiwa is awarded code S because he won the second place in MLG? If so then you guys are WRONG!! The reason he's playing in Blizzard Cup is because he was invited to do so. You people know that two players can be invited to participate in Code S with the help of sponsorship right? NaNiwa is just one of many foreigners who are considered to be sponsored to participate in Code S. Who would sponsor someone who just don't want to play at ALL? He played the first 3 games to win because he could move on. Two 0-3 guys going at it to see who would finish dead last? Come on now. Remember how it's disrespectful to ask for an interview when a player lost and is down & out? Well, having the two bottom feeders duke it out when you know they won't give it their 100 percent is just stupid and is disrespectful in itself. You cannot force them to give it their 100%. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45458 Posts
On December 15 2011 02:09 Skyreaper wrote: This argument about Nani is getting nowhere. Do you truly believe that NaNiwa is awarded code S because he won the second place in MLG? If so then you guys are WRONG!! The reason he's playing in Blizzard Cup is because he was invited to do so. You people know that two players can be invited to participate in Code S with the help of sponsorship right? NaNiwa is just one of many foreigners who are considered to be sponsored to participate in Code S. Who would sponsor someone who just don't want to play at ALL? 1. MLG and GSL have a partnership lol 2. As far as I know, Naniwa has played his ass off in every single match that has ever counted towards a tournament win. When he's lost the tournament, he moves on. That's his perspective, and it's not necessarily the worst perspective to have. He stays focused and he doesn't take things too personally. | ||
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